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AceBassMan

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  1. I'm sorry I couldn't help myself Painter?
  2. dezaS will remember our plight eventually
  3. It is not The Lord Mistborn Lestibournes It is not Emperor Elend Venture It IS (hint #5) The Blue Angel, Sylphrena! Well done, the turn is yours!
  4. It is not Renarin Kholin the Son of Thorns
  5. It is not Szeth son Neturo It is not Kaladin Stormblessed Itt is not Shallan it is not Yumi it is not Dalinar 1. Beautiful Dreamer 2. Trying To Get To You 3. Workin For The Man 4. Sweet and Innocent
  6. I agree with your points, though Nale would would have to catch Kaladin first
  7. Very much agreed, like emotional Ashertmarn.
  8. I've strictly been using Brandon's words as evidence and trying to avoid conjecture. The shard Odium is Adonalsium's strong, passionate, predominantly but not exclusively negative emotions, without Adonalsium's tempering traits, with the irrepressible emotions of hate and anger being the most prevalent. I tried to word it as comprehensively as I could, its basically a summation of the Coppermind entry for Odium, if you care to look it up. https://coppermind.net/wiki/Odium Thank you for the clarification!
  9. Isn't this talking about the Aon: Aona? So Aons are named for love, we can assume that the shard Devotion appreciated love, that is the extent of our evidence. The evidence is that the shard likes strong emotions yes, it is assumption that those emotions have to be mixed with anger or hate in order for the shard to like them, seeing as it likes the curiosity from Sja Anat. "Though it should have been all emotions—and his predecessor had insisted that was his purview—the power did not like subtle emotions. It liked loud ones. The passion of fiery lust, yes. But genuine love? Things such as love and contentment felt like the purview of other gods. They had taken some slices of its … portfolio, so to speak, during the Shattering." And lastly from your second WoB: "But Odium is determined to change that perception." And from the WoB I quoted earlier:
  10. You are ASSUMING those things are in Devotion, as we haven't had any wording or statements or proof to that end. I didn't say that the shard Odium was emotion, but that is is more than just anger and hatred. We have also not had any other shard attributed with emotions in writing, we've seen in Wind and Truth the shard Honor doesn't care about emotions, only oaths. No, the shard loves those emotions, it literally says that. "It reached out, and Taravangian felt a distinct Connection to it. Passion. Hatred. Today, Taravangian was only passion. Hatred, fear, anger, shame, awe. Bravery. The power loved these things, and it surged around him, enveloping him. His soul vibrated. Take me, the power pled, speaking not in words, but in emotion. You are perfect. I am yours." I'm not saying the shard Odium is all emotions because the text doesn't say that. It DOES however say that the shard Odium is also emotions besides just anger and hate but that it focuses on those the most.
  11. As you say, the shard is passion and emotion but it's focus is the most powerful ones, anger and hate shine through. We're both saying the same thing, it's just incorrect to say that the shard is only anger and hatred. Excerpt from Rhythm when Taravangian ascends: "It killed the person holding that power, however, which left a hole. A need. A... vacuum, like a gemstone suddenly without Storm- light. It reached out, and Taravangian felt a distinct Connection to it. Passion. Hatred. Today, Taravangian was only passion. Hatred, fear, anger, shame, awe. Bravery. The power loved these things, and it surged around him, enveloping him. His soul vibrated. Take me, the power pled, speaking not in words, but in emotion. You are perfect. I am yours."
  12. That same WoB In the WoB above he says Odium is cooler than Hatred but that he wasn't going to use Hatred anyway because it's more than just hatred. And the quote from Rhythm of War: "The power of gods. In his specific case, the power of emotion, passion, and—most deeply—the power of raw, untamed fury. Of hatred unbound." The fact is this line says emotion, passion, and fury all separately, it doesn't say hate, anger, and fury. It would be a bigger assumption to think emotion and passion ONLY mean fury here. Quote from Wind and Truth: This is why he is Odium, anger is the biggest and most powerful part of him, but not the only part. Retribution definitely makes sense, anger and an oath. But if you include any other part of him, like lust: anger+lust+oath=Obsession. Dunno which is scarier.
  13. He actively isn't just hate mate, the text says that explicitly and WoB too.
  14. He is passion though. It just that Odium is cooler, and passion without temperance from things like Reason and Mercy makes it all just look like hatred, even the love.
  15. I think if Kaladin and Nale had fought WITH surges rather than without surges as they agreed then Kaladin would have outflown Nale and won.
  16. it is not Shallan it is not Yumi it is not Dalinar 1. Beautiful Dreamer 2. Trying To Get To You 3. Workin For The Man
  17. I believe the combination of Honor and Passion would be something more like Obsession than Retribution. We've seen that Honor feels it's intent is more aligned with keeping oaths and the rigid letter of agreements rather than acting nobly, protecting people, or being kind. Since Valor exists I've often thought that's where those elements of Honor went. But keeping an oath with extreme levels of passion would undoubtedly be an Obsession, no?
  18. it is not Yumi it is not Dalinar
  19. Nice! I like your character choice! Alright my turn, how about some clues in the form of Roy Orbison song titles: 1. Beautiful Dreamer
  20. No new guesses in a month, seems like my round is over. The answer was Tozbek. Anyone else can take the next round.
  21. lol, he definitely stoops, but not King Vargo Taravangian Any more guesses?
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