Bejarden

What I’m saying is that contract 2 added nothing No Oath was made

Agreement Bound Trapped Contract whatever it’s beside the point, at the end of the day it will remain

I don’t think that’s what it implies “If I win that Contest you will remain Bound to the System” RoW 1178 that’s what it says, I don’t think that’s adding anything to the original agreement with Honor Its basically saying either way the agreement remains

So if I understand you Its easier to release yourself from one contract than two If I’m correct in thinking that: I think what the 2nd contract says is just that they are sustaining the first contract with Honor and if you take away contract 1 he is freed regardless of contract 2

no 3: This Character has been influenced by an Unmade

2: This Character has been to Kholinar

Wow you broke @PreciousNoodle 6 day win

There’s a key word there “Remain” (imprisoned) implying even without this contract he can’t leave @Frustration

No I meant it will invalidate the Champion Contract which has nothing to do with what’s holding Odium Having someone attack TOdiums champion against Dalinars wishes will accomplish nothing for TOdium

1:This Character has had more than one name

Put an emphasis on the you Yes it might invalidate the contract But it wouldn’t release Odium

Is this Dawnshard? I haven’t read it Stick?

Rashek?

And was able to very easily Nothing in there has anything about releasing him What would this do? It won’t be Dalinar breaking the Contract so that wouldn’t release Odium and then Dalinar is just mad at Szeth Also The Contract has to mean unharmed in the way that Dalinar has to agree to the harming (if that makes sense) Because if it isn’t and somebody bangs into The Champion by accident that can be interpreted as harming

He doesn’t know what Taravangian or that he is Odium or even who corrupted Asuedan All he knows is that the nice old man is telling him stuff when no one else will All he knows is dada died fighting the “enemy” that’s all they would tell a 6 year old Taravangian is not that enemy, at least in Gavinors eyes He has to be Willing, not sign a Contract

Tonk fah

No... he can just make a deal not to harm any of them, and to be a friend of the humans as long as he’s Odium Anyway why is this only a hole in the CCT

I think the Honorblade is giving him the same Surge Dalinar uses to open the Perpendicularity It never seemed that weird to me, at least no weirder than Dalinar It was probably Honors Perpendicularity

He could convince Gavinor that Dalinar is the reason Elhokar is dead (Dalinar made Elhokar self conscious which made Elhokar go to Kholinar which made Moash kill him, it’s twisted but Gavinor is 6) So why the Storms does Taravangian want to win the Contest? Why does he care? Gavinor could be put in starved or something with a poison in him that will kill him in an hour but not harming him until then TOdium will figure it out (This has to work because if Dalinar gets food poisoning from his chicken before the match I have a hard time believing that invalidates the Contest) He would be broken and then reforged as the Blackthorn (Sorry if I didn’t make that clear) Let me pose this question back Why not go talk to Dalinar saying he loves humans more than Singers and will give up the Contest in exchange for him? Why wouldn’t Dalinar say yes, it would be incredibly selfish to say no This is a whole in every theory equally An answer could be that Dalinar will not leave Urithiru for 10 days It gets more powerful over time and TOdium is very new

He wants Dalinar I don’t think Dalinar is so smart to figure this out to him it’s two options: Win or lose I doubt he even knows CS exists (Jasnah does but she probably would rather not interfere and win cleanly with no loopholes) Taravangian is under control, I think that’s exactly what the scene with him is saying He can control the Power with little effort Dalinar does not trust Taravangian he will only turn to him if heavily under pressure and not thinking clearly I do think it’s possible for Taravangian to approach him before (if he can get him outside Urithiru) That is the idea I’m trying to make a minority theory not seem as stupid as people dismiss it as To me it’s a really good possibility of happening

One time it was horrible TPBM thinks the outdoors are outside for a reason

Felt

So I seem to see that a lot of people here don’t like the Child Champion Theory This is to be expected as saying those words mean absolutely nothing, so I’m going to write what I interpret it to mean Gavinor is Odiums Champion while Dalinar is his own Champion, that is the only way it works (which is why TOdium wants to know who Dalinar will pick as a Champion) It also will happen around part 2 or 3 of KoW for reasons that will become apparent Here’s how it goes So you see we have three options here 1: End the Contest (if that’s even possible)- 2: Let Gavinor win 3: Kill Gavinor Option 1 Option 2 That leaves us with Option 3 A few things to add on to the end 1: Taravangian doesn’t want to win. He’s human and has only ever wanted for humanity to survive. If he can have Dalinar win the Contest and also have Dalinar as his right hand man, and willingly to boot, I think he’d take it 2: As people have pointed out Gavilar is probably alive, so he could whisper and push Dalinar off the deep end (I think Gavilars pretty evil) 3: What else can happen, I haven’t seen that many alternatives to the Champion Theories that factor in loopholes in a meaningful way Problems people have pointed out: (preemptive response) Deathrattles:

Kwaan (he’s a fuerichemist)

The man OreSuer impersonated The weapons dealer Renoux?