Dreamwa1ker

100% agree - with the Sibling as her spren, bringing people and spren together again would fit her very thematically. And could fit with her having to do some growth herself in moving away from her kind of Fabrials to repair that relationship

RoW spoilers

Moash = Anakin, Vyre = Vader Killing Vyre to protect Moash ...

That's something else to consider! Air-dropped in by a Skybreaker, perhaps?

How about: I will do anything to save my world, even to LIVE for it. To me that fits better thematically with Kaladin's arc, with his depression and everything. To choose to live every single day. Though it also makes me think of Kaladin potentially taking Jezrien's place in Oathpact 2.0, as that would mean him choosing to willingly live through heck without giving up...which is not necessarily a theory that I love.

Can't wait for this in the back 5...

Somebody write this fic!

I think it will combine the Leadership and Protection aspects. I don't know the right words, but something along the lines of having to give an order/ make decisions that mean one of his Knights have to sacrifice themselves in order to protect. This would fit with some of Lirin's triage lessons, and Kal has trouble making a call already on who to protect/who lives (see Kholinar palace)

I'm going to take a different path on this one - I think 5th ideal will have to do with the Leadership aspect of the Windrunners in conjunction with the Protection theme. I don't know the right words to put it in a simple phrase, but basically as a leader of a group that is charged with protecting people in general, you might have to send someone on a mission where they will almost certainly die, in order to protect. So I'm thinking something around acknowledging that he may have to give an order that someone else e.g. another Knight sacrifice themselves to protect others. I think if phrased or contextualized correctly it can still fit with the first ideal. And would be a hard one for Kaladin. It is further than 4th ideal because it's not just not being able to protect someone but actually having to make a decision or order more actively. And fits with some of Lirin's triage type lessons. I think of this one a lot around an episode of Star Trek TNG where Troi is taking a test to become a bridge officer, the final exam there's a horrible disaster and to pass you have to be willing to give an order that would send a crewmate to get it shut down and save everyone, into an area they'll get exposed to lethal doses. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Bridge_Officer's_Test

Hope this hasn't been done already.

Love it, better take than mine!

I also agree that Cultivation + Odium would be Malice or Malevolence - growing, nurturing hatred. Freaking terrifying, I hope this isn't what Taravangian does!

I'm thinking Truthwatcher

Kal smiling is more unnerving than Syl with a gun ROFL

NANI?!

I should've left it as cognitive shadows ha I was trying to avoid nitpicks. Failed successfully

And afterward Dalinar and Taravangian Cognitive aspects, clasp hands into a bro-hug, then step into The Beyond

Hoid

My working theory is Ruin will still get to destroy it, just not until space-age when Scadrians make a world-ship or space station or are colonizing. Maybe Harmony even lets the Ruin aspect be this looming threat of world destruction in order to drive the Scadrians to develop the tech to get into space - Harmony had been musing in one of the era 2 books that he might have made it too easy for people after the catacendre and they'd be complacent instead of developing... EDIT Found the quote, Shadows of Self chapter 7

Thanks I hate it. *shudder*

What if Harmony is planning to get the Scadrians to the space age so they can leave for other worlds or don't need a planet - then makes good on the deal to destroy it? Thereby Ruin-ing the planet but Preserv-ing the people.

I can only imagine the confusion of the people chasing him.