Illwei
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The Idea that you felt "forced" to claim today is strange, because you weren't. You had one person, Drake, asking you, with a vote. The fact that you felt "forced" to claim there doesn't help my read on you really, because it implies you felt pressure that wasn't there. Elims are more likely to feel the pressure of votes. Basically - Mat/Drake not E/E Which... isn't anything new from my conclusions on ...D1? so yeah. but that's reinforced. Mat could still be e/e with Araris, based on how quickly he got off after that claim. Even I'm a bit skeptical, tbh, even though he's claiming the kill on Lotus as well. for mat to just accept that is just a tad hmm to me. Honestly I don't know what- can the Kandra have roles? because with Drake's such emphasis on finding the Kandra, I'm almost convinced that the Kandra is him lmao. Again, if the Kandra can have roles, then claiming roles doesn't help you find the Kandra. To be honest here, I am more inclined to trust Araris than not because of how much people talk about scanning him. Unless Araris/Books is E/E, then I think Araris isn't evil here. He would have had anyone else assign the kill because of what's happened recently imo.
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Hmmmmm Whatever happened to me? :P. In reality, what made you want to kill Manu? Personally I think because of the thread control that one of Drake/Araris should be evil. Again we see Drake's fixation on the 3p (kandra) which isn't a good look in my opinion when there's the Elims which I think are more of a threat. Especially with this all being out in the open, and roleclaims don't help the village any more than the Elims, especially when roles don't confirm a villager, and so the Elims gain more than we do, especially at this stage. - Szeth popped up out of nowhere, adressed something about him, and then left. nothing else. Not a great look. - Drake claiming the target on Manu is a huge IKYK. Oh look Matrim just posted. Yeah. Look, still not sure how the thief works, but stealing from whoever you think has the most boxings shouldn't be what a villager is doing in my opinion. I think that you should be targeting the players you think most likely to be an Elim, instead of the players you think have the most money. This also reinforces my earlier elim read on Matrim.
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On the Nightkills. So I think it's interesting that Manu died, since he wasn't exactly townread. I'm going to say it's off of his last post, where he legitimately had info about an Elim, I'm going to say. I think it's telling that this team isn't scared or worried or guilty about killing returning players. Personally I don't...really...know what this implies. I still think Araris is an Elim, and he can be a bit ruthless :P. Newer players also might not have the same guilt because they don't know the person. I do think it's interesting that the kills were Jondesu and now potentially Manu here, because these are both older/returning players (moreso in Manu's case, not Jon's.) which also might partially imply a fear-kill. the thing is, if there was a fear kill to be had right now on a returning player, I wouldn't be surprised if it was on Drake. Which it wasn't. I'm not going to read too much into That specifically, because Jon/[Manu, Mist] all fall into more low-profile kills. I do think that them being low-profile implies that the Elims are comfortable with the direction that we're going. that they feel safe, or that they're the ones leading us. if Araris flips V then that proves that, otherwise they killed Manu because he had info. Mist would be a low profile kill here unless I'm missing something. Mist was suspected to be the Kandra iirc, so...could this be a vig kill here?
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Okay with the elims having the ability and not the village, I feep more confidant in my three elim guess @Archer what was Ash asking that the role was? A bloodsealer, but what does that mean?
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I think hes the perfect example. QFs are supposed to have an inactivity filter @Araris Valerian ? but if they dont then TWS is a good kill so that we dont enter Elo a cycle early.
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Wow, I'm honored, but since i think you have the means right now, slightly worried :P.
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This game well it's surely. something. This is the least active game I've played here, it feels :P. And you know what I'm ready for some contribution crusades. Windrunner Supreme
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I I don't want to read the rules hm
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I gotta be honest, mate I still haven't read the rules :P>
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why not
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Liranil
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Him being very open about contents of PMs, and the overall feel of the posts lean Elim. Him giving the quick village read isn't something that Elims would want to do, so that leans village for giving it, unless it's a bad attempt at clearing a teammate.
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...yes.
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BIP!!!!! watch me get pocketed for a third time :pensive:
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hmmmmm
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I think it obviously varies by person, but that was a first thought that came from people probably not wanting to be seen as posting so much RP for coins when they could be posting "useful" things. I guess it really doesn't matter now, but it fits with my updated read on Szeth. *looks back* wait I have another village read on Szeth. okay just switch Szeth for Manu in my reads for now, I'll come back later. Probably going to vote Araris tomorrow unless something interesting comes up.
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Drake posting about "no one defending" feels villagery to me. I'm taking back my statement about Drake being evil. more thinking Araris is now. Manu "well one elim is down, that's good" Performative, thanking the coinshot. Continuing to pointedly not vote because it's "not neccessary" or whatnot, not vibing with that either Vil Leans - Books, Drake Null/Vil - Archer True Null - TUO, Danex, Mist Null/Elim - Manu, Ash Elim Leans - Mat, Biplet, Szeth Elim - Araris -- Also this doesn't confirm me as village, just as a Hemalugist, so it doesn't matter in the way you're trying to shade me for.
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Nice Shade, when I explained it. mm Just a note that both Araris and Bip provided the same non-defence of Ash when Drake voted him.
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Page 2, been multitasking. - Jondesu Died- Low info kill? - Mat/TUO potentially e/e here just because he relates a TUO lim to Experience, when obviously there's not going to be the same outcome. - Mat/Araris potentially e/e here for points further down Araris starts off the day with suspecting Drake and TJ- Ends up on TJ. - Araris/Bip soft Defense of Ash from Drake @Matrim, Vig claims when the vig only has one shot (ie: Me) don't matter as much here where the roles aren't alignment specific. in a game where you know that there's a 1-shot vig, them claiming makes sense if they're about to be voted out, or if it's down to something like f5 where they need hardclears to PoE the last Elims. Getting a potentially confirmed villager in the beginning of the game when it could have been revealed later isn't very helpful. Idk where that puts me, but thought yall'd like to know that the Elim kill was Jon and not Az, though I don't know where that puts us now. I didn't see where Szeth took confirming a role as confirming a villager but I agree with TJ there that that gives Szeth a village read. Okay, Araris is giving me strong elim vibes for meta. mostly it's the "I'm fine with being suspected, but-" that feels like caught scum who feels like they were caught for faulty reasoning. Archer drops down to a mild village read for a focus on the Kandra early on. Araris preflipping mat in- wow. I really do miss post numbers. Bip's going towards an Elim read, with @Archer, The Drake/Araris battle read a lot more friendly than mine and Quinn's normally do :P. I agree with the point about Ashbringer. Not explicitly saying why you're voting is scummier than explicitly stating. Point down for drake: "Given how it ended for me in LG66" is the kind of AtE I don't like, comparing this (what was happening) to a game where he already reinforced he was a villager in. Especially when Araris, the one person on Drake at the time, had just moved off.
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Hemalurgist Someone post, I'll be back after reading D2
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Definitely not, good sir. Had a spike, useless now.
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Also idk what happened D2, tbh I've only read D1 but I killed Azmine. Quick notes from D1: First of all, basically I'm thinking that the Elims won't RP too much, or will be very self-aware that they're RPing a lot for boxings. Instead I expect them to have long analysis posts. I also think that because they're going to be more self-aware, they're going to have less filler in there compared to other people. - Archer village for his read of manu, though I don't agree with the read. - TJ village for identifying that. - Szeth village for RPing so much (tentative) - Ashbringer Elim Lean for talking about Faleast, because its not just RP and its long posts that aren't analysis. - Matrim Lean Elim for Hopping on Drake reasoning, only valid if its E/E. Actually i take that back. Mat's retraction was so fast and badly explained that he cant be E/E with drake, because he wouldn't feel as comfortable suddenly retracting. - Drake still on my elim list though because of his reads. - Drake and Araris legitimately E/E openwolfing rn? (potential, feels very buddy-buddy but they're also - Szeth telling the thread about PMs though implies safety which implies elim - Araris pointing out Szeth's self-awareness is a double standard so Araris Elim feeling eh bit better. - Village on books rn for seeing what i did a small bit, which was a focus on 3p from Drake EDIT: No clue, but comparing ventyl to Lotus' meta isn't a very effective form of analysis.
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Drake is Evil
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Wasn't suspicion, an observation kinda basically if you were teammates with Striker or Szeth or Archer, then you'd come into thread and use something I said to place a vote on me, imo. the fact that you didn't meant you're not teammates with them in a way. (loosely) The phrasing of this is strange, can you elaborate on this?
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Ashbringer EDIT STRIKER EDIT ASHBRINGER
