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I'm trying to figure out everyone else's leads. They seem to lead to a circle I'm fairly certain JNV can't be Elim. If they were, they could have shot at someone last night while I couldn't roleblock them (and while neither of us may have noticed that I couldn't do that, the Elim team would probably be more aware and has more eyes to catch that). That would win the Elims the game. If V!me roleblocks the actual Elim kill then JNV could just claim not killing anyone, and if V!Huio blocks a kill then it's just a question of the Elims making sure JNV's target claim is a reasonable kill target. And especially N3, there's a lot of those. And even if somehow JNV could be elim - can we be elim together? Would E!me block our own vigilante kill? Because if I hadn't done that, and Huio hadn't blocked a kill N2, then e!JNV and the elim kill would have guarunteed a win N3 because they'd only need to kill one Villager to win, and Huio can't block them both. Could Huio claim? At this point we could use any edge we can get, and I'm curious if my hunch is correct. Not hyper necessary though. Edit: Ah. See, it's traditionally difficult to tell the difference between "I RNG'd a result" and "my elim teammates told me to pick this result"
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... well a 3-way tie with two people not named me is slightly better than just an exe on me, but it's not great. I could go for TJ, but I'd rather convince someone to join me on Wizard. Or, the splinter option. @Telrao, any thoughts, besides that you think Cord is sus?
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One of them involved, meaning me or besides me? We certainly seem to be doing fine at killing ourselves… JNV made the PM with me N2. We had no communications before D3. We did not coordiate on D2 besides in thread. So I couldn’t have pocketed them before that. Of course we could be elims together and lying about the PM altogether, but you seem to have discounted that idea. Personally I don’t think JNV can be evil. E!Cord could have won the game today unless the Elims are only 2 people, and I think most teams would have taken the risk of hitting Huio’s target. Especially a team with me on it. And I’m gonna be honest, it’s a little late to flip me for D1 info. If you want to exe me because you think what I’ve done is suspicious, then I’ll argue for that. But I can’t speak for what Wizard was doing while I wasn’t even there, or for why JNV trusts me, or for how many possible team compositions I could be on. What have I done?
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From my understanding JNV's plan was to ask me to roleblock them while claiming targeting TJ, then actually target me. If E!me V!TJ I don't roleblock JNV (instead trying to roleblock a V!Huio or something) and then die, V!me I guess was supposed to just roleblock them. But I was more confused on why I should roleblock JNV instead of going for an Elim Kill Roleblock, so JNV explained the idea which ruins the idea. Also I think I've got an idea why the elims aren't killing me, seeing as I've been a discussion black hole for the entire game. And as a counterpoint, the Elims would have done probably more to save E!Lopen on D1, and IMO I would have done more too. IMO only world where JNV's not Cord is a world where E!JNV is on the same team as an E!Cord. I roleblocked them N2, only one kill N2, and JNV claimed Cord aiming at not-Kasimir. Could be JNV did the Elim kill instead. But JNV made a PM with me the same turn, so they wouldn't have known a roleblock was coming, just that it could. V!Cord could have counterclaimed, or also just, you know, shot me.
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I… didn’t. JNV wanted me to roleblock them without telling me why, I wanted to hear why, which defeats the point. So I roleblocked someone else (Elandera). Either JNV shot Elandera too, or they didn’t shoot at all which is what they told me they’d do.
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... oh.
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I can repeat target. As can Huio. Huio can also self-protect from my reading, which is interesting. Wizard. For a few reasons, but I want to go back and see why people think we’re teamed.
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Considering that I roleblocked Elandera, probably the Elim kill Also yeah, Cord, might be a good time to show yourself.
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Huio's been essentially silent. Which is good if they've been actually protecting people, but them being the only role that we've heard nothing from is somewhat alarming. E!Huio versus the other roles would be decently balanced on a larger Elim team. I don't know if I have an evil read on TJ. Sometimes I can pin down e!TJ pretty well, but sometimes not. Cord, I think is someone that I can trust. But from my perspective Cord NKing me with me doing nothing is a death sentence both for me and the game, especially with E!Huio. And I'd really rather try and RB the Elim Kill rather than RB Cord to save my own skin.
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I’m also in a PoE case right now. I trust me, and I’m going to trust Araris for now if only because if we exe him the thread may die. That leaves TKN, Alpha, Telrao, Wiz, JNV, Elandera, and TJ. And of those seven, I know one who is Cord (again, if the real Cord is the one who shot Kas, please stand up), and another who at least didn’t put a Kill in N1 when I roleblocked them. Then I have a few other reasons to look at TKN specifically over the others. I’d be willing to look more at TJ though. Would make sense for the Elims to have a role, even if TJ can prove he isn’t submitting kills.
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I’d be fine voting out TKN here, but others like Elandera and Wizard have been sort of ghosts.
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@|TJ|, did you PM two people this turn? And which two?
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If Cord killed Kas, then I roleblocked an Elim. Unless they didn’t attack, which makes no sense for a variety of reasons.
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If Cord did kill Kas, they should probably claim soon. Otherwise I’m keeping this to myself unless people are really concerned about E!Cord.
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I did think of that as a reason E!me would claim, tbh. But in addition to that risk, it would leave me in a rather awkward place if E!me claimed Lopen then the real E!Lopen died, and with Cord in the mix that could happen pretty much any time. I also think hypothesizing an E!Cord world might be something we should do, especially if we trust TJ. I trust me, and I think E!Kas would push harder on getting me out D1 tbh. And it's been long enough since AG8 that Evil Coinshot doesn't feel repetitive.
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Oh I didn't ask. Thought I did. Kas, did you rolescan me N1 to verify, or did you scan someone else? Don't really care who else, but I'm curious.
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And Ash has claimed Lopen. Huio and Cord have been silent (as they should).
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mafia championship A Knock from Outside the Cosmere
Ashbringer replied to Metacognition's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I still don’t have a good summer plan, but based on current things I think I’ll decline. -
Tineye gambit it is then. I’m okay on Xino.
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I mean both concerned with as in being engaged, which is unusual but good, but also concerned with as in... concerned? Don't know how to put it. More worried about things. But reading a newer player is always kinda weird, and I'm... definitely not one to judge on new-player-playstyles
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If I'm going to be a discussion black hole then voting me out might be an idea, but I'd wager I can still be useful. Is there a reason for voting for Xino besides just general activity? I could go there, or go TJ/Alpha. Alpha in particular seems... more concerned with things than I'd expect a new player to be.
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People hopped on and off me a lot, from what I remember. I'd also just like to note that Dingo was completely detached from the actual thread, I'm just mostly detached Hmm. @Devotary of Spontaneity, why'd you follow me when I was one of the bigger vote leads?
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I did not block Araris. (I do remember that, but Araris knows I know that and I think I’ve used it against him before, so I figured I’d go for someone else.)
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Well, didn't block anything useful to block so I'll probably keep that target to myself.
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Byron ran over, fast as his slight cadmium burn would allow. "It shouldn't need practice, and I've got..." Wait 3 hours burntime from within or without the bubble? And what dilation... okay forget about the dilation. "I've got enough if we need more. But if we stand there and there," he said, pointing at two spots in the room, "we should be able to overlap a cadmium bubble over the door. We'd be slow, but anything trying to get in would be a lot slower. That gives us time to get through the ceiling or floor, or do something else." He took a glance at that wardrobe again. It was bugging him. "Getting through might be the harder part. Don't think we've got demolitions. Anyone have a Soulcaster?"
