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I was about to say I should never break another tie as long as I live but if Nerdy is village I saved us a kill Course if he’s elim, rip. Should clear me and Kas for sure. Probably Aman too. Points either to inactive elims completely or someone who wants us to think it’s that, which I guess unclears us :P.
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Maybe I should just unvote and pray to RNG I don’t like being the deciding one again >>
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So I should vote xino. Trust the evil donut! :P. My biggest hesitance with a Stick/xino team is that they were just elims together which isn’t enough of a hesitance to get me to not switch. But I do like the e!Stick case and this seems like the best way to test that…? If not then I’ll switch back, you guys need to tell me if I’m wrong cause so much of this is whoooooooshing over me right now xD
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Like if we want to kill Stick today I’m fine with that Feels a bit rude since she’s asleep but this way might be easier than if she were awake :eyes: Edit: Nerdy today and Stick revisited tomorrow is fine too though
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I think there was a need, but thank you I just hope you're village >>
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I mean, she didn't vote him when she cased him, a fact which I actually called out in real time. Her vote came later, and came off after you joined her. Ngl I kinda wanna start a Stick wagon :eyes:
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I don't... think so? On a different note, I was looking back at C2 trying to figure out what made Stick unvote Silver (because she pushed his train early, but then had to have been off it to vote there late) and she voted TUN "to diversify options" right after xino voted Nerdy. The VC was Right before Stick unvoted. To me that seems weird since the options were already pretty diversified, no? I don't know if that works with a Stick/Silver/xino team but it definitely makes sense with a Stick/Silver team. Also, I formally apologize here for discrediting your part in the Silver exe, I was quite blind. Looking at it now I can see what effect you voting Silver had on that exe. At EoD, it's also worth noting I think that Stick voted Fifth before going back to Silver. Nerdy was ahead 4-3 when she voted Silver, but if they're both elim with her that doesn't matter too much.
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I never said I didn't believe in the e!xino world, I just haven't thought about it at all :P. Yesterday I was hyperfocused on you only, and then in killing someone active (sorry Fifth >>) and today I think we get more from a Nerdy flip than a xino one and I already had some preexisting suspicion there. (That one part of me sees Nerdy not liking Aman as partnered, but of course there's the other point that e!Aman with both teammates up doesn't switch there) The rest is understood, thanks.
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Because I don't remember there being a connection between xino/Nerdy other than Nerdy's consistent votes, so in a v!Nerdy world it'd just be Nerdy's read and that doesn't necessarily mean anything striking for xino's alignment. I didn't really feel the need to point out that it didn't mean anything for xino so I didn't :P. Kas, I assume you don't ascribe to the belief that e!xino = e!me and etc? I'm not sure how to feel about that other than I know I'm not evil, so if I believe it, xino's cleared. I don't know where that notion came from though or the reasoning behind it; I don't know why xino apparently can't be evil with anyone but me.
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I was the one that caught CS!Cin, yeah. To summarize Nerdy: e!Nerdy gives us-- Hael/Stick/Kas as options, solving the problem of no veteran elim if that's a problem at all. It also I think gives more reason to v!read TUN because he could have bussed and didn't, as well as Aman because he could have just stayed on Silver. And this clears xino. v!Nerdy gives us-- a reinforcing of Hael/Stick/Kas as clears (with the ever lingering paranoia, of course :P), and higher e!TUN credences because he refused to touch the trains either way. Also higher e!Aman chances. So [Hael/Stick/Kas] looks worse with an e!Nerdy and better with a v!Nerdy, and [TUN/Aman] looks worse with a v!Nerdy and better with an e!Nerdy. Is that something that's generally agreed upon? I think this seems like a good balance between info killing and suspect killing. Nerdy
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Hmm would e!TUN clear Nerdy? Because if EoD D2 was e/e, there's no reason e!TUN doesn't vote Nerdy or Silver. Either way one of his teammates dies, but this way he gets credit for ensuring the death of one of them. His abstinence from voting doesn't fit in that world. This actually works the inverse too-- I think e!Nerdy effectively unclears Stick, Hael, and Kas. Because bussing in an e/e world isn't losing anything that wouldn't be already lost, but it's gaining credit. So maybe Nerdy should just be flipped to make sense of that.
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This is... yeah. This is definitely the problem :P. TUN feels like a middle enough ground to me. I feel bad voting Aman 'just in case' which is kind of what that was. If people wanted his flip I wouldn't be opposed to it by any means but I'm done sticking to my ground when it's clear right now that's an unhelpful place to be. And I agree that the elims probably are just sniping IC candidates. ...Tbh I would be fine with a Stick kill too >> @Amanuensis what's your idea of a team now that Fifth flipped village?
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What's your view on C2's EoD? For me that's what's stopping this exe for making sense to me. If e!xino only works with e!me then voting xino is a waste of my time and right now I don't see why killing Silver's countertrain is the best course of action here. Also, adding onto the C2 EoD question-- in that scenario and considering that turn, who are Nerdy's teammate(s)?
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That's true I guess, I'll give you that. Unless you're teamed with him :eyes:
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Because I don't believe that Fifth/Aman is v/v and if there's an elim in those two I'd rather find them before the elim in xino/Nerdy. I can't see how me, you, Stick, Fifth, Devo, Hael, and Aman all are village this game. Where are the elims? We all consensus read Bookwyrm as village, and does an e/e EoD with Nerdy really make sense? Idk. I haven't looked back at that recently. If the team is all low actives, why are you and me and Stick still alive? I was wrong to say I'll never move on Aman, and I retract that statement. But I do want to know what made you and @_Stick_ do that abrupt 180 on him yesterday. I feel the similarity between this and MR57 and frankly I'm scared to change my read of the situation because the last time I did that I straight up lost the game for my team and promised myself I'd never let that happen again. In other news, I literally had a dream last night that Stick was elim and Aman was village. Kas, do you see Stick as the most likely busser? I'm at the point where I'm considering that based only on my dream, that's how lost I am >>
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Tomorrow, yes. Right now that kind of a post isn’t going to happen since I want to do it right.
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Aman. I’m not moving this time.
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Fine. Though I won’t pretend I want to. Fifth. If I am killed and Fifth is village, please get Aman next.
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Hence why xino and Nerdy should not be a top priority right now @NerdyAarakocra @Devotary of Spontaneity @Kasimir @Haelbarde Don’t really care which you move to (I mean I do, but) though you should probably consolidate to Fifth or Aman. e!xino is just as catchable later while Fifth and Aman are harder. If Fifth dies so be it; I’m okay with e!Aman wiggling out of this since I didn’t move this time and we can get him later Course if Fifth is e, that’s good too :P.
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Y’all really gonna make me vote Fifth aren’t you Unless you think Fifth/Aman is v/v, there is no reason to vote outside those trains. Xino and Nerdy are far less of a threat.
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I think for me, Aman's team of Fifth, [xino/Nerdy] makes sense as a possibility, but I'm not at a point where I can take what Aman said at face value until he's flipped. Call me whatever, but it's how my brain needs to progress-- flip Aman, work from there. A v!Aman flip definitely makes his team suggestion a good one and I certainly won't dismiss it but until then this is where I'll vote. If y'all want to vote Fifth first, sure, go ahead. But I wouldn't feel good about that. Please don't vote Nerdy over Fifth today. Nerdy was the countertrain to Silver. I'm not willing to consider that until the world where Fifth and Aman both are village. Maybe that's tunnelling 101. But I've been swayed incorrectly while voting e!Aman too many times to risk that again. We've got enough time for a ML if that's what this is, and we've got a good idea of where to go, thanks to Aman, if that's what this is. But I do think that there's a good chance of e!Aman here. His tone to me is insanely similar to MR57, and I don't think my case is bad. I've said my part, I'm not moving. I've reworded this post like eighteen times and it's not perfect at getting the point across but the point should be-- I'm at a point where I can't weigh Aman's last two posts over the rest of his misrepresentations. It's not because I'm blindly paranoid all the time (Just like last LG with Kas! Believe it or not, I don't run headfirst into every game looking for reasons to e!read you guys!) and it's not because I'm so far in the tunnel I can't see the light. From my PoV, this is where I'm staying. There's enough time to recouperate and I'm certainly not about to be swayed by e!Aman again. [Insert obligatory 'I'm cool with y'all nothing personal' and all that] So there you go.
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I mean, no, it was more about defending my honor I'll look at what you asked later, but I dunno if I can find anything better than what Stick did :P.
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C'mon Kas, why would I do that If I'm editing in content I mark it with an 'Edit'. If it's just edited with no comment it's grammar or a rewording without changing anything else, etc. The Aman vote came at the 12:58:13 one, though idk if that actually changes anything lol And yeah, I'm okay with v!Nerdy thinking about it more. There's that line of suspicious behavior vs. inexperience that I'm really bad at telling and I think it's conceivable that since this is Nerdy's first real game (with their first being my BT) it's just the inexperience part. And the trains last turn just make way more sense if Nerdy is village. Also: @_Stick_, you had that point where you said you couldn't see e!Aman posting this- And I'd counter by saying I can't see v!Aman posting this. I can't fathom how a player as respected and talented as Aman pushes this line of thinking without giving any credit to the people who actually voted Silver, unless he's an elim who got blindsided by you, Kas, and Hael's last second voting. e!him after Silver's flip doesn't really have another option today, think about it. He knows his Nerdy vote looks bad. He knows that he can't just be like, 'yeah, it was bad, I know' because that's a zero resistance train to being exed. The alternative is for him to argue that his vote was actually in the right.
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RIP Stick, Kas, and Hael who actually made the flip happen, the guy on Nerdy indeed was the reason Silver flipped. Like— where does this come from when iirc your vote went mostly unnoticed and in the end wasn’t even there? At the risk of being overly repetitive— I don’t think how long it stuck has anything to do with anything. I care where it ended. Did you just. Miss my massive response to Aman or what I e!read Aman. His voting last turn and his rapid and blatantly false casing of me only adds to that read. Fifth is a lot more of a ? but I think I lean village. Edit: ‘Got your one’ nothing, what >> And I’ve gotten so tired of being anti-self vote like I just cannot see it as anything other than AtE. Like the turn started an hour ago at best? This can’t be an honest fold.
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I've overly explained why I stayed static during the Dannex yeet. In this case, there actually seemed like the possibility of another train while D1 there really didn't. And besides. You're arguing that to try to save my teammate Silver, I unvote the main countertrain and go elsewhere? I definitely would have stayed on Nerdy. Yeah, five hours ago :P. Doesn't mean a whole lot when you ended on Nerdy. I think you're way overstating how much I v!read Silver. I made more posts complaining about the exe D1 than I did D2. I can link them later if you want. I'll ask you the same. You stayed static EoD D1. Why the multiple switching this EoD? Spook is the wrong word but yeah, your repeated false notion did catch my attention. Why does e!me not stay on Nerdy? Why does v!you repeat this and stay on Nerdy? That is not the thing I didn't like, and you didn't end on an elim :P. How is it a huge stretch lol. You began your argument by stating that you voted Silver five hours ago, ignoring the fact that you ended on Nerdy. You then say nothing else about your own relation to Silver except that you teamed him with me, again ignoring the fact that despite that point of yours you didn't vote Silver. Feels to me like you were setting me up for Silver's fall. You put it out to be that you're an obvious non-pairing with Silver when that is obviously not the case when you just look at the voting. Every single time someone has called out one of your votes this game, this has been your explanation. I just don't buy it anymore :P.
