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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
That first part surprises me. Does that mean you have reasons you don't think are convincing? I think I probably could convince people on an Archer train, but I'd need to convince myself first :P. Will do my Skittles/Catch up post later today and there I'll decide how I actually feel. I mean, I think there's a difference with me because I've already lost my extra life and so am essentially vanilla. But after my flip I don't really want y'all to rolexe everyone with an extra life even though I agree it's likely the elims have some sort of Shade protection. That could just be Silver Dust, yeah? Idk. Generally our reactions to Sart are about the same but this game I'm not too sure when also taking into account Devo's point at the top of this page. I've actually talked myself into a v!Devo read somewhat. I think it was her response to Kas where she basically said 'this is high effort me'; I can see that and it feels more village to me. I will point out that talking about mechanics and then moving to people when pressured to do so is exactly what you did D1 of this game, and C1-2 of the last. Also, I didn't really have a problem with her questionings at EoD since it felt like she was testing for an e!me/e!you team. Which, I didn't vote you, so there you go? xD I guess you only have my word on this but if not for Archer, I would not have done a last minute single name vote. I think I already mentioned that, and why. The tunnel thing... yeah, I guess there could have been some subconscious wanting-to-be-village-read going on there, but elims aren't the only ones who want to be village read It would have been subconscious though, won't write my post again but that read to me at least felt like the beginnings of a tunnel, just one that had been building in my head and not the thread. I don't have any idea how I read Aman and this fact is seriously concerning to me.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Would you shoot me with a crossbow if you had one?- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Do I even have any recent posts that revolve around Kas? Lol I think that’s underselling me a little bit. I did more D1 :P. I’m busier lately than back when you were active, so I only have time for these random comments during the normal day. Tonight or tomorrow I can do a skittles rainbow or something. -As I said when I voted him, disengagement thing/similarity to Dingo, but also kind of a see what happens vote. Rehashing yesterday’s trains is fine but there are elims among the rest of people. Obviously I’m slightly biased as far as the trains from yesterday go, but like if Archer went over today that’s fine with me. He still feels weird but I’ve never been able to read Archer. Ash/Archer works as a team, anyway. -You just asked me for not Kas reads but ok— he seems fine. There were a few angles he went for yesterday I found strange (his TJ progression, for one) but I also kinda just think he was attacked so /shrug -Less elimmy but also a more put together read, less gut I guess? -The kind of opening was fine, I mainly just didn’t like the CC comment. Felt like a way to avoid giving reads.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
That would be disagreement :P. Is your list of people just village reads? I suppose after participating in so many failed role exes it’d be fitting for me to finally be on the other side of one But seriously, the chance of it backfiring is, what, five percent? That’s not ‘a lot’ by any means.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Fun to not be able to do anything?- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Can't say that I love Araris' return being an agreement with Kas mech thoughts and a suggestion to CC :P.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
It's a disengagement/Dingo case, plus if the general leaning of v!DeTess/e!you is correct Ash would be a natural fit into that world. I'm interested in not repeating yesterday altogether so am starting here. Could you explain the vote a bit more? I know you said a bit about engagement levels but as someone who has basically no concept of the differences in Devo's meta I'm wondering if you have any other way to articulate the read Edit: RIP Aman- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
There's a 5% chance you got really unlucky :P. Not sure what other maths there are. Buuuut then again I'm certainly no math guy (though I do like all my math classes) I was directly told that I no longer had Silver Bones, yes.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Ah. Tbh, just wasn't thinking that deep about it, only was considering the very immediate implications. But I also don't see why you couldn't have just said you didn't use a Spellbook :P.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Don't do this to me man I just read the rules front-to-back three times and I have no idea what you're talking about ;-;- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Unforgettable Horrors means that everyone independently has a 5% chance of going insane at the end of every Night turn. So either that happened and the kill didn't occur some other way, you used a Spellbook and lost the 20% insanity chance (and the kill didn't occur some other way), or you were attacked and protected. Obviously, the latter is more likely, but I think it's worth thinking about. Certainly worth mentioning whether or not you used a Spellbook.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
But like, assuming you didn't use a Spellbook last night, there's a 5% chance of an inactive team / blocked kill. The other 95% is you being attacked. Edit: Is there any reason you wouldn't, Ash?- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Wouldn't you know if you were attacked? :P. That would be helpful to know. There's a difference between the worlds where you were attacked versus went insane via Spellbook or something.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Can we get some colored text I did not signup for flipless :| I assume Kas was protected? Doubt he was WGGd so he’s just village. Also a Writer? xD Ash- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I've just always taken it as a term for a retaliation vote Which I guess is kinda what you just said Anyway, got any reads?- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Not that much, no. Enough to cause me to consider switching to DeTess but not enough to actually do it. It’s interesting you call my Archer vote self pres when in my head it wasn’t really that; voting DeTess would have felt more in that direction I suppose. Edit: Also, I’ve never been a Coinshot full stop, so :P.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
In all fairness, I didn’t expect to lose them :P. The 1/3 chance was low enough that I felt comfortable keeping my vote where it was. I think if I’d been clearly up I would have claimed.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I mean I technically was exed last turn :P.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Probably not. As I said yesterday the trains had become about even to me for a variety of reasons (which I'll get into to a second) and as I knew I'd survive the tie even if I got hit I didn't particularly want to pick between the two because I'm a coward :P. Idk if I would have self pressed had I not been a Thug but I certainly would have been more likely to. I switched basically for what you said, his arguments not adding up. I think the reason it didn't feel like a tunnel to you was because the majority of it was happening behind the scenes. Since his first vote on me, I'd felt ??? about him (his vote(s) were based on my annoyance being an elim tell, yet he never said where I showed signs of annoyance even though I asked multiple times) and that read kinda snowballed and culminated in the post right before I voted him. I guess it kinda does look like I manifested the read just 'because' but I'm also hyper-aware of that being a Thing after recently failing to admit to tunneling on Stick (which was a legit thing even though I was Mobborn), so I was actively trying to suppress the tunnel as it was building. Does that make sense? I feel like that was too many run-on sentences >> That was a combination of realizing Archer just got D1d + not trying to full-send the tunnel + DeTess becoming a viable train again thanks to Ash. So they became even-ish.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Okay for a second there with Kas' emote and the notif that told me Alv had posted I thought that Kas had voted Steel and Alv had voted me to get the tie lol- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Yeah okay Steel is probably just village- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
So... that's a yes, then? imo no-voters hammering isn't really a worry when the people not voting are people who consistently don't vote D1/ever, if you know what I mean.- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Ohhh right VitC can be used from no-vote to vote. TKN then? Edit: Are you admitting to secretly trying to kill me :eyes:- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Hi I have Silver Bones. Had Silver Bones. Someone wanted me dead, but joke's on them! :P. You say that like you had a PM. Could I have had PMs this whole time and I just didn't know it? Looks like that's a no and I just misread your phrasing. Which is fine. So if Kas VitCd on me, where'd the phantom Steel vote come from?- 1163 replies
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Long Game 94: The Call of the Forest of Hell
Mat replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Not not at all but Archer/DeTess are about equal to me and I thiiiink I prefer the former. Doesn’t matter now though.- 1163 replies
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