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I’m going to rank the Pixar movies because that’s what I’m thinking about.
also I don’t want to fenangle the Shard into bulleting in reverse so we’re going from worst to best apparently
- The Good Dinosaur - this movie sucks! Nothing happens, it’s incredibly boring, the premise is completely wasted. Anyway, onto the movies I don’t hate.
- Cars 2 - I regret putting this here, because I like this one. And I won’t defend it as a movie, because objectively speaking, it is bad; I will only defend the fact that I like it, and my only defense for that defending is nostalgia. That’s right: this was my first favorite action movie, and I thought it was goofy enough to enjoy.
- Brave - it doesn’t feel like a Pixar movie at all. Did you know it released the same year as Wreck-It Ralph? If you had asked me which of those two films seemed more like Pixar and more like Disney, I would have answered you wrong. Also there are too many butt and boob jokes and it’s just kinda bad.
- A Bug’s Life - it’s okay I guess. I like the villain, but other than that it’s a really forgettable movie.
- Monsters University - it starts pretty good, it ends really good, and the rest of it is boring. The theme is really poignant and relatable, but otherwise it’s an eh film.
- Cars 3 - I dunno. A part of me just wasn’t into it when I saw it the first time. Considering how formative the original two were for my childhood, it felt a little cheap. I guess I might have to rewatch it sometime, considering I only ever saw it the once… but memory places it firmly in the low B-tier category
- Finding Nemo - It was never my favorite. I’ve always liked it, but… eh.
- Cars - You fools! You thought this would be higher, didn’t you? Well turns out the movie itself is better than I remembered as a kid, but somehow less enjoyable than I used to think it was. Basically, that means that it’s a pretty standard Pixar movie and it’s okay.
- Toy Story - yes, I’m putting this lower than all the sequels and even some rather controversial titles. That is because I’m of the opinion that while Toy Story was (and still is) an excellent debut film, it’s ultimately just a stepping stone for what the studio would go to create. But I still like it a lot, and the incredible series it started really helps the film in hindsight.
- Incredibles 2 - I liked it! Quite a bit, actually. It would have been impossible to make a worthy sequel to Incredibles, but by golly did they do their best. There are some issues I have (the villain’s a little uninspired, the eccentric billionaire guy is underutilized, etc), but I disagree with the ones most other people point out on the grounds that they are wrong. Bob does not resent his wife for doing hero work without him, he resents the situation that put the two of them there in the first place. Anyone who says otherwise is incorrect.
- Lightyear - darn tootin’ I placed this over Toy Story. I’m really fond of this one, and for every reason except the fact that its meta-premise makes no sense whatsoever. Why does Andy’s favorite movie from the 1990s have such better graphics than their literal real life? Why is it that Buzz Lightyear toys are flying off the shelves instead of little Sox robots? But looking past that, I absolutely love this movie’s characters, plots, themes… it’s fun. I like it.
- Turning Red - Okay… I like this one, and while I respect the people who don’t, I don’t respect the people who don’t respect it respectfully. It is not bad, it is not pointless, and it is not cringe. However, I was running out of middle-ground movies to use before I can get to the greats, so this one gets to go here.
- Finding Dory - idk it’s just so cute! And I can respect its message a lot more now that I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD and probably Autism - there are a lot of characters in this movie with various disabilities (Dory’s short-term memory loss, the octopus guy’s missing tentacle, the nearsighted beluga whale…). I think it’s touching.
- Luca - the only reason this one is as “low” as I put it is ‘cause I wouldn’t feel right putting it over Ratatouille. This movie is absolutely adorable and I love it so much.
- Ratatouille - Do I need to explain myself here? Go watch Schafrillas’ hour-long youtube video about it.
- Toy Story 2 - it took a good movie and made it great. I’d argue this is where they first really cemented their “format” of providing unexpected but realistic twists to established stories, what with the conflict suddenly surrounding Woody of all people trying to decide whether staying with Andy is worth it - after all, kids only ever grow up, not down.
- Onward - I think this one got artificially lowered a little because I’ve seen it so many times. I love the story and the jokes and the characters; not much else to say here.
- Soul - I NEED TO REWATCH IT GUYS. REMIND ME TO REWATCH THIS ONE. I ONLY SAW IT ONCE AND I NEED MORE FLESHED-OUT REASONS TO PUT IT HERE
- Inside Out - I’ve also seen this one way too many times, but it’s never lost its touch for me. Even seeing it as a kid when it first came out I was touched by the story, and that was even before I knew what depression was, let alone have it.
- Monsters Inc. - this one gets put this high on the basis that I said so. Maybe I just compare it a lot to the garbage heap that is Ice Age, but the fact that they just chased a three-year-old child around with a microphone to get the most organic lines really shows with Boo’s character. Randall and the wheelchair guy are great villains, I love Sully (and obviously Mike), but most of all I just find myself loving Boo more than anyone because of how real she feels.
- Up - I almost feel weird putting it this low, even though I’m pretty sure this is still top five. The reasons to love it are plentiful, but there’s a lot of people out there who form the “Up is overrated because people only focus on the opening” faction. I would like to dissuadr any such arguments because you are wrong and I really like this movie through and through. I think there’s something so incredible about the idea of making an adventure story about a guy who’s long past his adventuring days.
- Toy Story 4 - I want to put it higher but it isn’t better than the Incredibles so here we are. I will defend this movie and all it stands for. It was a good evolution of Woody’s character, it was a good expansion of the franchise’s main theme, and it does deserve to exist.
- The Incredibles - also deserves no explanation. This is the best superhero film… maybe ever. I love it and it’s really really good.
- Wall-E - this one is probably my favorite Pixar film, but gets third place because it doesn’t make me cry. The story, music, pacing, and characters are all beautiful and entrancing and I love every minute of it.
- Coco - It was a tough choice, putting this one in second. The music in this film is objectively the greatest in any Pixar, and the ending makes me cry. A lot. But ultimately it lost to…
- Toy Story 3 - The greatest conclusion to any story arc ever made. I know I just spent a paragraph defending 4, but darn it does this movie make me cry. “So long, partner” never ceases to pull at my heartstrings
oh and I haven’t seen Elemental yet hehe sorry
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Note: I'd still venture to say that everything south of Brave is objectively a good movie. Bugs Life through Toy Story are solid (if a little underwhelming), Incredibles 2 through Finding Dory are pretty darn good, and Luca onward are the Greats.
And I still really like Cars 2 and Brave, even if they're weak. In fact, the only Pixar film I actively dislike is The Good Dinosaur.
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Aight, I've got time now...
Toy Story two, imo, was the best Toy story movie and Four was the worst one. I can see why you would put it as high as you have... but... *shivers* you're wrong in other ways too.
Turning Red is fine, it's not as bad as I often say it is. I don't think it deserves that high, but that's a matter of opinion.
Cars two I would rate higher, as I would the original. I would rate Cars 3 way down low. I was a big fan of Cars for a good long while and Cars 3 kinda ruined it for me. Bugs life needs to be higher too.
Now to address Incredibles two and try not to get overly passionate.
Incredibles 2 had several issues.
One of those issues was stuffing the film with things that most of the audience didn't really care about. They didn't do proper set up for what you note is a good explanation for what Bob was resenting about the situation. They took the threat set up in the previous film and removed it in the opening sequence. From a writing perspective, I can see why, I can see the need to remove the underminer, but that undermines (heh) expectations for the film from the audience. The threat needed to be felt more. The film also, for me, did not give a good explanation for why they were doing a lot of the things in the movie.
This is not to say that I didn't enjoy parts of the movie, but it is faaaar less than the sum of its parts. The house sequence cannot redeem the fact that the villain was horrible, that the last about half hour was a jumble of stuff that barely made sense and wasn't satisfactory, that a lot of the things in Helen's arc were just super convenient, that the whole thing with Violet and that one guy was just sorta redoing some of what happened in the previous movie and, to continue that point, they removed his memory just so they could have something for Violet to be stressed about in the movie. Their promises and payoffs were just wrong. They promised us in the last movie that Violet and the guy were going to have some sort of plot, but they never went through with it. He found out that she was a super hero in the previous movie, everyone was hyped about so many different things including this, and then only to have his memory wiped and for almost nothing to come of it.
I was chatting with my family briefly about this and my mom pointed out: the dad was far more bumbling than in the first one, he wasn't able to handle his kids like he seemed to have been able to, and the mom seemed to be able to only get fulfillment out of the home. These are lighter problems for me in specific, but they're small issues that contribute lightly to the whole of my dislike of the film.
Suffice it to say, I really don't like that movie.
For the rest of your rankings, I think they're good if not exactly where I would put them. Coco and Wall-e deserve those top spots. Toy Story 3 is a good film too and deserves top ten, though not top five imo.
In the end, I spend way too much time thinking about these films.
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