Frustration

Welcome to Frustration's Firepower Index, a collection of threads giving a comprehensive analysis of each Cosmere world's combat capabilities. This thread will focus on the world of Sel, as it appears in Elantris, Hope of Elantris, and Emperor's soul, with additional knowledge taken from Stormlight Archive and The Lost Metal. Shards: Devotion and Dominion are splintered, and thus impotent. 0/3 Dawnshards: Sel has no known Dawnshards. 0/0 Defenses: Sel's cognitive realm is currently a storm of invested plasma that is very difficult to navigate, even for Hoid. With the only known perpendicularity being in Aerelon, though there is a second one. From there there are numerous rivers, mountains and seas to act as natural barriers. Sel also has stronger gravity than most cosmere worlds, weakening invading forces. 4/5.5 Offenses: The same plasma storm that prevents an invasion also prevents most Selish individuals from leaving. Additionally Selish magic in location dependent even on the same planet, though with what we see between the IRE and Shai, there are a few select groups that know how to bypass these restrictions. Their increased gravity compared to other planets makes it easier for them to invade, and with their teleportation powers, it is theoretically possible for them to skip the CR altogether and jump straight to other planets. .5/1 Natural Advantages: Sel has the highest population of any major shardworld, with only Roshar being able to challenge them. 1/2.5 Armed Forces: Sel is home to Three large Empires, and dozens of smaller nations. There are too many factions to give consideration to every one, so I will try to focus on a smaller group of noteworthy nations. Arelon, Teod, Fjorden, The Rose Empire, and the IRE. Arelon: Arelon's main fighting force is the Elantrians, who are taken from the natural population, and given incredible power. There are around 600 Elantrians at this time though that number will increase. Brandon has said that there is a limit to the number of Elantrians, however the books say that the population of Elantris was mostly Elantrians, so that number was likely in the tens of thousands. They have a large population as well, though they lack a formal military. They also have a lot of Seon's which are the most powerful form of communication currently known. Teod: Teod maintains a small ground force, but their Navy is noted as being one of the best in Opelon, able to stand up to the Fjordel empire. They also have several Seons. Fjorden: Fjorden on it's own has limited military power aside from Dakhor monks who have various abilities, notably increased strength, speed, teleportation, and the ability to manipulate other forms of investiture. However, they also have a few Seons, and influence over other countries, including Jindo with their Chayshan warriors, who have increased, speed strength and reflexes. And Hrovell with their potions. Additonally they have several Skaze, though whether they have the same functions as Seons is unknown. The Rose Empire: The Rose Empire has a population in the millions, with a striker army, and a long lived Grand aristocracy. They also have several forgers, most importantly resealers, while also maintaining influence in Dzhamar which possesses bloodsealers, and Maipon which has forgers. The IRE may be the most influential group here, they routinely travel between Sel and other worlds, have fabrial devices that can store investiture, and make Connection, and can pipe Dor to other worlds. 12/12.5 Economics and technology: Sel has a developed trade system, and has multiple ways to make any necessary resource. They have late middle ages to renaissance level weapons, but no gunpowder. 2/7.5 Logistics: On world: Sel has multiple roads, caravan routes, and overseas shipping. They also possess multiple ways to make any material they need between Aon Shao, and Soulstamping. They also have skeletals who can run or row forever without rest or food. And with Aon Tia and Dakhor teleportation they can transport anything anywhere. 9.5/10 Off World: The Plasma storm makes moving materials or people through the Cognitive realm difficult. They also have skeletals, and Aons Shao, and Tia, along with soulstamping 2/2.5 Intelligence: Aon Shao, and Soulstamps can hide people, and objects. Aon Nae allows the user to see things far away. 4/10 Counterintelligence: Elantrians and Dakhor monks are impossible to imitate without powers. 2.5/9 Allies: Sel has no allies. 0/1 Notable uses of investiture: There are Aons for making barriers, fires, blasts of energy, viewing things at great distance, teleportation, and learning quickly. Elantrians can also sense other manipulations of the Dor, and possibly all investiture. Dakhor monks can(if they are given the ability) sense other investiture and manipulate it. Universal soulstamps can repair objects, and with bloodsealing they can raise most of their fallen soldiers to fight again. +4 Recommended strategies: Sel might just be the most powerful world analyzed thus far. Their population and magic make them a potent threat on both offense and defense. Any one of their important factions is a threat and a half to most other worlds. Figuring out safe ways off world, though the cognitive realm or through Aon tia, or Dakhor teleportation is the only thing holding them back. Overall ranking: 41.5/65.5 As before thought, comments suggestions? I'm about to settle on a world ranking system, though if you have any thoughts that would be appreciated. And as before which world should I do next?

He also doesn't mention stormlight, just shardplate. And even if they weren't completely immune they would have a natural resistance.

He's overrated at the very least.

With stormlight they would be roughly equal. Pewter only doubles strength, and Rosharans larger build and stormlights increase in strength should put them on equal ground.

With proper knowledge on how to make them what stops Roshar from making guns? I was thinking something more along the lines of Nahz's shadeguns And he has some problem not personally attending battles despite doing it multiple times in WoK and WoR? You would have to practically put them inside a suit of armor, and somehow find a way to stand directly where the perpendicularity would open despite the fact that they have no way to see the CR. And I was just thinking Roshar has multiple people who can see the future, so they can adapt to Scadrian strategies before they even have to face them, or to prepare ambushes or counter attacks.

Stormlight is much more investiture dense than metals. In fact Scadrial in it's entirety is investiture poor.

It has nothing to do with emotions and everything to do with Investiture. While holding stormlight a Radiant at third ideal would be too invested to effect.

Aluminum, Nicrosil, Gold, Cadmium, Copper, Zinc, Brass, and to a lesser extent Electrum would all be ineffective against a Radiant. More abilities does not necessarily mean more power.

Yeah, but half of mistborn's powers are useless here.

shardmetals do not have specifics alloys. You could alloy lerasium with any allomantically viable metal and it would make an alloy you could burn. Those alloys would make you a misting of whatever metal you alloyed it with.

Why ask for a single gun and not the knowledge on how to make them? Though if you could get a nightblood version of a gun... And providing his forces with stormlight isn't support? The Set was bringing in pure investiture already, that wasn't because of the community. Because as much as it hurts them it hurts Scadrial a thousand times more. Yeah, so move an oathgate over to Scadrial You can tell just by the soul, like how you can tell apart humans, singers, regals and fused. You can even tell if someone is high or not,

I mean, all romance novels are the exact same so that's really saying something.

Curses are personal. Someone doesn't go and get a bag full of gems only to find that an earthquake hit. No it wouldn't. There is nothing in the code about leading from behind the lines, Dalinar does just that in RoW. That would probably take millions of metalborn. The one that Roshar would have long since taken, and soulcasted a giant block on top of to keep it from being used? He could see their soul, and tell that they were a Kandra because of that. I was just thinking that yesterday.

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Roshar has hundreds of thousands of candidates. One infantryman less won't make a difference. Adolin does(and only because they were following him and he has protagonist powers), none of the spren do. You assume that they were only from Autonomy, there are a lot of Cosmere forces that have an interest in keeping Harmony as impotent as possible. Inside joke. One guy on the last thread would quote coppermind articles a lot. Which on it's own wasn't a problem, but he refused to give the sources behind them, and treated them as a source unto themselves. In order to sneak past all the defenses needed without being noticed they would need a steelmind the size of a person stuffed to the brim with speed. And if he stays in the CR then Scadrial can't do anything about it and he can still recharge stormlight.

Nothing really precedes SP1. If you want to catch every possible detail White sand, Shadow for Silence and the Words of Radiance and Oathbringer interludes should do it. But I don't think you need to worry.

The Spoiler stream reveled that they have a magic system we have seen.

All the curses we've heard about have bee rather tame(numb hands, seeing the world upside down, ringing in one ear etc.) and you can simply say "Hey, we're taking over this planet here, and making several new kingdoms, go to the nightwatcher for us and we'll make you a king in one of them." And why would the Nightwatcher not be able to grant guns? Notum doesn't seem to find anything odd about them. Roshar is a massive way stop in CR travel, large groups are common. Jasnah herself says that it could have been stormlight. And Shallan reutinely underplays her abilities, as seen in RoW she isn't a reliable narator. I don't remember. Sazed is actively being limited, and Autonomy is way more experienced It's happening again. They tested the rockets, but I don't think they had bombs on them, otherwise they would have launched those rather than use the suicide ship. With the ability to generate stormlight, shardplate and an honorguard any bondsmith would be easily protected.

Terminal velocity has a lot of factors, like surface area, gravity, atmospheric density etc. I tried calculating it one time it was a nightmare. But regardless Windrunners can adjust atmospheric pressure, and tend to create wind tunnels to go faster(OB 322, 602)

You could. It would be harder than if it was in your stomach but it's possible to even burn earings.

Considering that humans and plants of the time were so much weaker it would be odd if horses weren't. But let's assume that you are correct about horses being the same. Felise is about an hour away from Luthadel, so 20 miles. In ten minutes that's only 120 mph(20*6). Windrunners routinely break 200mph, not counting the fact that Rosharan miles are longer.

You forget that Scadrian horses at the time would be much weaker than ours are. And not to mention variations in elevation, traffic, or other factors that effect horses but not Mistborn.

I don't think Wax knew, just Marasi.

That's theoretically possible.