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I really want to know more about the first desolation, too. So much of what we think we know about all this seems to be lies or heavily filtered. We know that humans came from Ashyn, and either brought Odium with them or opened the door for him. Then the spren of Roshar decided to bond with Men, which caused the singers/listeners/parshmen to ally with Odium? And then eventually the singers decided to abandon Odium, too? Also, I'm confused about the fused. Were they originally singers before the first desolation? Were they spren bonded to those singers? Or were they just spren who took over the entire body of a singer? So many questions...my mind is racing haha.

From what I read on the wiki it had to do with some sort of disease linked to investiture system there, and things went really haywire? Like basically the investiture system there had to do with microscopic organisms. But again that's just from the Coppermind and my memory of that coppermind entry, lol. I think we need to find out first how humans got to the Rosharian system in the first place. Then, about the events on on Ashyn - was the apocalypse there caused by Odium? I'm not sure they would have artifacts if that were the case - firstly, they'd be refugees. Secondly, they might be afraid of destroying Roshar like they did with Ashyn, and bringing anything associated with Odium. That's certainly an ongoing theme and is mentioned as a big reason that the 10 orders were made for surgebinders, because surge binding apparently(?) played a part in Ashyn's destruction. More knowledgeable folks may correct stuff in that but it's my understanding so far

I see what you guys did there...

I had read all Ashyn WOB related stuff, but not that exerpt. Saved for after work! Thanks. I'm just fascinated by the humans coming from Ashyn to Roshar. It's obviously a huge plot point and no one needs me to point that out, but I just feel there's SO MUCH to it that we don't know yet. I can't get it out of the back of my mind.

Hi all, first post here outside of the introduce yourself forum. I'm wondering about Ashyn. I'm fairly new to the Cosmere and haven't read anything besides the first Mistborn Trilogy and Stormlight Archives, but I don't really mind spoilers. Of course, I've gone on the coppermind and followed the links, but it seems like a lot of Ashyn stuff is from an unpublished work? I guess to sum up my questions succinctly: what do we know for sure about Ashyn that is not subject to change, and how do we know it?? (and if you can point me to which works to read about it in, that would be great. I've got most of the Cosmere stuff on my kindle already). I can't help but feel the story of Ashyn is going to be huge not only for what happens on Roshar but for the Cosmere at large.

Exactly. I can see I'm gonna fit right in around here..

42 obviously. Or 16? Or maybe 17... ;-)

I have a friend who has Way of Kings next on his list, but that could be a ways off considering he's a slowish reader and a busy guy. I'm not sure what order I align with, TBH. Maybe the lightweavers. Lotta self truths to tell...

the Stormlight Archives/Cosmere?" - me, to all my IRL friends the last few years. Haven't had any real success getting them on board, so figured I'd seek out likeminded individuals online and, well, here I am. Hi! So far I've read the first Mistborn trilogy and the Stormlight books multiple times. Working my way through the other Cosmere works as I have time but I also find it really hard to tear myself away from the Stormlight Archives. Hoping Brandon comes to the DC area one day...that's about it. Anyway, I'll probably go back to lurking about this as almost every question I've thought of seems to have already been discussed here.