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  1. 1 hour ago, Use the Falchion said:

    What are your thoughts on the movie?

    Less positive, unfortunately.

    My problem with the film is mainly in its structure. Simply put, the film lacks tension and Clark has no agency in his own narrative. The main question put forth by the film is "Can or should Clark be Superman?"

    The problem is the non-linear structure of the film answers this question in the very first scene we see with Clark, when he saves the workers at the oil rig. So any tension regarding whether Clark will save people in the flashbacks is cancelled by the fact the film has already answered the question for us.

    Regarding the city fight. My problem is less that the fight lead to wanton destruction so much as it is Clark (and the film) don't seem to care. MoS doesn't care about the people of Metropolis, it cares about how hard Clark can punch Zod. In the aftermath of the fight we don't see the devastation, Clark is never held accountable for his actions, Clark himself seems unaware of how many people died.

    The film is so muddled by flashbacks in the first half (with annoying use of shaky cam in inappropriate moments) that the plot doesn't even begin until Zod sends his message down to the humans at the half-way mark. Clark isn't doing anything until the villains show up and hand him the plot.

    The film is not without its good points. Those being the excellent casting (especially Zod) and Zimmer's score has its moments as well.

    2 hours ago, Use the Falchion said:

    Jor-El wants his son Kal-El to be great because he sent him to a place to be great. John Kent simply wants Clark to be happy and accepted. And both are shown to be right.

    The film is very much interested in what Jor-El and John Kent want and their perspective, I agree. If only it cared about what Clark wanted.... or actually gave him anything to care about.

     

    Also to touch on the Jesus thing briefly. It lacks any subtlety or nuance.* The problem is that MoS doesn't do anything interesting with this theme.

    Sorry if this is a unintelligible ramble. My intent wasn't to make anyone feel bad for liking the film, just my two cents.

     

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    Though subtlety isn't necessary for a theme to be good. Fury Road is about as subtle as an electric guitar that belches fire but its themes work incredibly well

     

  2. How would you rank the Star Wars films?

    Have you watched any episodes of The Twilight Zone in any of its incarnations?
    If nothing is faster than light how did the dark get there first?
    Have you ever heard the tragedy of the Lord Ruler?

    Would you recommend the WoT books?

    How many cosmere books do you reckon Brandon should write?

     

  3. 1 hour ago, Wyndlerunner said:
    1 hour ago, Snipexe said:

    The existence of the prequels is justified by The Clone Wars and r/prequelmemes

     

    The Clone Wars is equal to if not greater than the original trilogy in my eyes.

     

    I think I might just put this here....

    If I were to make two adjustments to the sequel trilogy it be this: Replace Snoke with Thrawn (ignoring Rebels) and turn Poe into a supporting character. 

    Each trilogy of Star Wars to me seems to have three main characters: Luke, Han and Leia; Anakin, Obi-wan and Padme; but it seems to me the sequel trilogy actually has four: Rey, Finn, Kylo Ren and Poe. I'd argue that Kylo Ren is less of a villain in the sense of Vader or Palpatine in that we spend more time seeing things from his point of view. I feel the sequel trilogy was perhaps weakened by having 4 instead of 3 main characters. I'd propose either merge Finn and Poe or relegate Poe to more of a supporting role.

    The other drastic change would be to replace Supreme Leader Snoke with Grand Admiral Thrawn. The first reason being I feel it makes more sense that the remnants of the empire would rally behind a well known and established figure as their leader. Also it opens up some thematic opportunities that aren't provided by Snoke. Thrawn is a character who takes the cultures of his enemies and uses it against them, he weaponizes the past, which creates an interesting contrast to Kylo's infatuation with the past in TFA and later desire to be rid of the past in TLJ.

    I don't know if this is 'controversial' enough but shrug.

  4. 2 hours ago, Wander89 said:

    Is there a list of all the now canon Star Wars movies/tv series? I've only seen the movies but I'd much love to get into the lore more.

    The live action star wars films

    the cgi shows 'The Clone Wars'*, 'Rebels'** and 'Resistance'*** (though not the 2D animated show titled 'Clone Wars'****)

    Any books published following Disney's acquisition of Lucasfilm is considered canon

    I also believe Wookieepedia has a complete list of all canon Star Wars works. 

    Anything published before the Disney Acquisition is labelled as 'Legends' material. This includes comics, books and videogames. The quality of this material varies from excellent to awful. 

    I'd recommend some of the Legends material as well since some of it is quite interesting. Though I haven't read it in a while Darth Plagueis By James Luceno was pretty good. The original Thrawn trilogy of books by Timothy Zahn functioned basically as the sequel trilogy of the Legends universe, it's kind of like a cool alternate history novel.

     

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    *The Clone Wars overall is a fantastic show set between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith and is really better than all the prequel films. It broadens the canvas of characters and plots and really brings a sense of scale to the franchise.

    **Rebels is set before A New Hope and follows a small rebel group fighting the empire. Though it features the same writing team as The Clone Wars the quality of episodes vary greatly.

    *** I haven't seen Resistance so I can't speak to its quality

    ****Though not canon Clone Wars is still a fine show written by Genndy Tartakovsky, the mind behind Samurai Jack and Dexter's Laboratory

     

     

  5. 59 minutes ago, Wyndlerunner said:

    Don't want to turn this into a TLJ flame war, as I don't actually hate the movie,but I'm curious why y'all like it more than TFA.

    I'll put the flamethrower away then. I think it all comes down to the intentions of the films. I feel TFA worked well to endear us to the new characters and set up the larger story, I just feel it relied a little too much on the classic imagery and story of the previous films. TLJ seemed to be more eager to expand the thematic canvas of Star Wars (granted, it didn't always do this well.) I like both movies for different reasons, but I'd rather another TLJ to another TFA. Still looking forward to how JJ Abrams resolves the trilogy.

     

  6. 16 minutes ago, Invocation said:

    Sith ghosts were a thing in Legends, after a fashion. Palpatine actually did gain the ability in that story. Transfer essence, allowing them to haunt an area (generally their tomb) and possess people who come near if they want. Just read the Wiki page, I didn't actually remember that until I looked it up following the laugh. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Transfer_essence

    Also Holocrons as well I guess were kinda similar. Was transfer essence what Darth Bane tried on Darth Zannah?

     

    Fair enough. Still, from a thematic point of view I feel it makes more sense for the Sith to be incapable of gaining immortality. 

  7. I completely agree with you. Sorry for the confusion, by justified I meant morally right. I don't want the film to make it look like the Joker was morally right. I want it to make sense of course :) . To quote Batman from The Killing Joke 'maybe ordinary people don't always crack. Maybe there isn't any need to crawl under a rock with all the other slimey things when trouble hits. Maybe it was just you,'

  8. I'm quietly optimistic about this film.

    When designing a film built around a character like the Joker one has to tread carefully, as the character has for most of his life been defined by his lack of a backstory. The again, as a character he has always been defined by his relationship with Batman, so without the bat what is left? This leaves the film in a place no other Batman project has explored.

    I hope they don't end up glorifying mental illness or make it so that it appears as if the Joker was justified in becoming a monster. 

    (Glances at a metaphorical fridge wearily)

    Beyond the story itself it is fascinating to consider the implications of what might happens if this film does well at the box office. Compared to the current blockbusters being made with their monolithic budgets a film of a smaller scale may prompt Warner Bros. and other companies to invest in more middle-of-the-road budgeted films. Such a result could lead to a greater diversity of films which would be good.

    Until October then!*

    And remember... never stop smiling.

     

     

     

    *joketober? Octjoker? J-tober? Joaqtober?

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