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As the two above me said, it really comes down to a-pewter being additive rather than multiplicative. You can think of it this way, when two traditional (eg. big and muscular) pewterarms clash, they are both getting the same boost from pewter, so it effectively cancels itself out and the fight goes the same way as it would if the two pewterarms were fighting without magic. In that case being as big and muscular as possible is an advantage because once the magic is effectively canceled out, being big and muscular is a huge advantage in a fight. Small tangent that I've spoiler-ed for convenience: Where Vin threw a monkey-wrench into this system where pewterarms basically negate each others powers by balancing them out is in how different her build is than the tradition pewterarm. Where the primary advantage they got out of pewter was strength, Vin got far more out of speed than they did by virtue of getting the same strength boost, but having so much less weight to actually move. If she tried to arm wrestle another pewterarm, she'd lose every time. But in an actual fight, especially when mistborn learn to fight based on having superior mobility to their opponents, then Vin threw the standard pewterarm playbook out the window. This is also why I think one of the most terrifying twinborn to have to fight would be someone with f-iron a-pewter. It would be like fighting a scaled up insect, where their strength to weight ratio could be so high that they're able to leap over buildings. Or they could go the other direction, and make themselves virtually immovable. And they could do either while being as strong as a bull.

Don't worry about it at all. If I was afraid of discussion or being wrong I wouldn't be on this forum.

We've definitely had a few conversations about spiritual surges a few times on this forum. The thing I always wonder though is why we assume that Shallan's inspiration wasn't a spiritual use of the surge of illumination. After all, she's making their ideal (spiritual) selves visible. In other words, she's illuminating them. Similarly, when Renarin heals someone, as per Adolin in RoW, they see a brief impression of their ideal self. And Renarin doesn't have the surge of transformation, but he does have illumination, at least in some form. That's a fascinating overlap there. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if Shallan was using a combination of surges, so that she's using illumination to reveal their ideal selves, then giving them the ability to transform themselves to get closer to that. In a similar manner, Renarin would be illuminating their ideal selves, then progressing them towards it, usually in the form of healing.

Man, this is what I miss for not paying close attention to Inktober last year. Thanks for the highlight, Argent. The overly busy people like me have great reason to appreciate it.

So to show my biases a bit, so that y'all may decide if they negate my opinion or not, but I don't actually believe in the "moral event horizon" where someone can do something so evil or so terrible that they cannot be redeemed. As long as a person is alive, they can change the direction of their life and become a different person. That is our nature as continuous temporal beings rather than being spirits or Shards or even Spren; we are always changing and won't be the same person tomorrow that we are today. So, with that bias in mind, my obvious answer is that yes, I believe Moash can be redeemed. The more complicated questions get into the both in-world and real-world questions of should he be redeemed. From an real-world perspective, I'm not sure he should. He's gone far enough into embracing evil actions and thinking that I feel it would take a massive page count to satisfyingly turn him around, and I'm not convinced there's enough page count in Stormlight for that considering all that still has to happen. Maybe he could be redeemed in the back half of SA, but I don't think the front half has anywhere near enough room to do it properly. From an in-world perspective, I will make the argument that it is always better for an evil person to become good than for them to die still evil. But that said, I also believe in justice (see the profile pic if you need to be convinced about how strongly I do) and thus I believe that redemption, no matter how sincere, doesn't always warrant letting a person who has done evil live. Moash is a murderer and a traitor, and whether or not he is redeemed justice demands a murderer and a traitor's death (I'm not debating anyone on the death penalty in this thread. Just know that I believe in it, and if you don't replace what I just said with whatever punishment you think justice demands of murderers and traitors, for this conversation the specifics aren't relevant). Now, there's also a difference in punishing evil and preventing evil from being enacted. If there is a situation where the choice is (and Kaladin will likely have to face this choice) between killing Moash to protect the innocent or letting Moash harm the innocent, it is better to kill him then and be done with it, even if it would end the possibility of future redemption. TLDR; I don't have an exact answer to the question because so much of it is going to be based on circumstances that occur as the story moves forward. Ultimately, all I can say is that Moash can be redeemed, but there are far more likely circumstances where he is not. As a reader, I would be satisfied with either so long as it is well written.

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That is really quite fascinating, and I think you could be on to something.

I have a feeling it would depend highly on both the person and the Perpendicularity. Though whether being native to the same world as the Perpendicularity would heighten or lessen the effect I cannot say. But I definitely think having a Shardpool hot-tub would do something over enough time.

I feel like this question is kind of similar to asking if you'd get more muscular by injecting protein directly into your veins, where the higher likelyhood is you're just going to do some serious damage to the person receiving the injection. Not because what you're trying to do is impossible or illogical, but just because you're probably missing several steps of the process.

It seems that it involves an intermingling of spiritwebs, which means it might be less about Connection and more about Identity. Edit. Before I get told off about how bonds clearly involve Connection or else Ishar wouldn't have been able to steal the Stormfather bond, yes, I agree that Connection is very important to bonds. I'm just pointing out that at least a significant part of them likely has to do with changing or "resonating" Identity.

I suppose the logic there is hostile (malignant) growth.

You certainly could be right on both accounts. Unfortunately my books are unavailable to me at this time, so I can't go back and check. I definitely think that you're right about being able to power either system with any investiture that the binder has access to, but I'd add that I believe that both voidbinders and surgebinders will have an innate access to warlight, without needing to gain any kind of "key" to access it as a power source.

I am convinced there is more to this than it just being one of the orders we've seen before. One of my major reasons for believing this is that Sanderson gave warnings before the reading about it containing "end of the Cosmere" level spoilers. Now, if you've paid attention to the WoBs, you'd know about the coming space age, so what exactly are the big spoilers here? That Rosharans and Scadrians seem to be on opposite sides of some kind of conflict? There's not exactly much there to spoil or speculate on. We don't even know the exact nature of the interaction and whether the "aliens" presented represent their respective home-worlds or merely different organizations. That Radiants eventually figure out shardguns? Okay, I'll give you that, that's pretty big. But it seems to me, especially remembering the discussions we had when this reading first dropped, that the biggest question is what is up with the light. Especially as stormlight, regardless of the orders using it, is white with a nearly imperceptible amount of blue. Then of course in RoW we have the reveal of combination-lights, and suddenly I'm convinced that all isn't as it seems. My suspicion has been and will continue to be warlight, with the belief that it acts as a bridge between surgebinding and voidbinding and can be used to power either magic system, albeit with its own unique properties.

Kinda building off what Frustration said, perhaps there is a way to make bacteria develop feruchemical powers, but such a process would almost certainly involve an infusion of Investiture that would push it into levels of sapience. Basically in the Comsere there's a very strong connection between levels of investiture and self-awareness, such that any massive influx of one seems to push for an advancement of the other.

I don't know that it's that clear cut yet. It seems like its more likely that Odium is associated with 9 than that Braize is. Now, that's not to say that Odium is mimicking other Shard's powers, that does seem unlikely. But I'm not sure we can just dismiss 9 as being completely unrelated to or unimportant to Odium.

Part of me wants to say that each person probably has a level of "compatibility" with each Shard (which is independent from Connection) which makes that Shard easier to work with for them. I don't have any real evidence to believe this, other than it just makes sense to me. For example, I imagine that I would probably be able to do more with the Shard Preservation than Whimsy because I don't like randomness, but I do like patterns and stability. In a way though, that's less of someone resisting a Shard inasmuch as their mind already somewhat conforms to the Shard's intent, and therefore the Shard doesn't need to change them as much. But again, I don't really know if that's how it would work. We just don't have enough examples of pre and post ascension comparisons. But I would imagine that if I'm correct about this, then Rayse probably had very high "compatibility" with Odium, which could explain all the stuff he achieved in his early days of being a Shardholder. Or maybe I'm just making it all up.

The implication is that all Shards have their own pure tone.

Would Nightblood even be that affected? At this point they've eaten so many different kinds of Investiture, and if "you are what you eat" applies in any way to investivores, then Nightblood might not even be dominated enough by the pure tone of Nalthis to really be that hindered by its anti-tone. Nightblood might be more like a whole orchestra than a single tone at this point, even if there is some level of Investiture conversion going on.

*emphasis mine I think this is really the biggest thing here. As far as we can tell, the functional Fused seem to be few and far between, with most having reached a point of being far more spren than Singer. I've voiced my opinion in the past of feeling the Fused not being handled as well as they could have been, but a large portion of that really comes down to the fact that even the functional Fused like Raboniel are dealing with severe mental (possibly more accurately stated as cognitive) deterioration. The result is that both the quantity and quality of their fighters has dropped significantly, and any real tactical organization they had is pretty much gone. It seems like basically the only thing that was holding them together was tradition and habit in place of skills, and raw power in place of technique and number.

This has been a topic of discussion a few times in the past. The general conclusion has been that if lift became a bendalloy compounder, she'd basically be an extremely powerful engine to convert investiture from one system to another, as well as be able to benefit from being fully charged with lifelight at all times. In other words, it would be a really big deal, especially as we're uncovering some of major properties of lifelight. If nothing else, then her own powers of Progression mean she'd be able to convert Ruin's and Preservation's (I guess at this point technically Harmony's) investiture into Cultivations, and then use that to endlessly grow plants, turning that Investiture into a significant physical change in the world.

So the past few weeks I've been thinking about this book a bit, and one thing I keep coming back to is the reveal of Chet being a delver, and the consequences of that on Chet's character and knowledge. Most notably, that Chet knows things Spensa doesn't. It would be one thing if all Chet's knowledge came from seeing Spensa's mind, and would explain some of the knowledge of stories and language, but Chet teaches Spensa knots and survival skills. So did Chet copy Commander Spears's memories and rely on those for his interactions with Spensa? Or did the original delver retain its knowledge even while it deleted its memory and personality (which I'm not sure makes sense or would be possible). Basically, I'm creating this thread to discuss where Chet's knowledge came from, and how much of it is shared among all the delvers.

There is some validity to making it out of multiple metals, or at least multiple identifiable sections, in order to aid in the coinshot perceiving the different parts that can be pushed on. We can't ignore how important perception is to this, and so whatever would aid in allowing the misting or mistborn to see that coin as many parts would make it easier for those with less skill.

I'm not sure I follow. Certainly an atium compounder would want it to burn extremely quickly so that they can quickly get a large amount of youth out of the metalmind and then store it in another atiummind for slow tapping. Its not like compounders are compounding every moment of every day, they just do it until they have a massive store of the desired trait in their metalminds and then slowly tap that over time.

Awakener's seems to have the ability to sense innate investiture rather than just cognitive presences, considering that Vasher describes himself as being able to sense blades of grass. Thus, it would probably be the more versatile and useful sense to possess. Though admittedly, we don't know how the mind sensing abilities native to First of the Sun work, so we can't be positive that it doesn't have more unexpected uses.

My view on this is extremely skewed because I read Oathbringer in one day, but my friends who have also read it (and at much more reasonable paces) say that its kind of hard to get through, because it doesn't feel like a lot is happening during the Kholinar section, and that apparently made it difficult for them to enjoy it as much as the first two books (they've not gotten to RoW yet).