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Nice idea. I was thinking he was the rioter though. Also the soother was still able to soothe the crowd after Marasi captured her without his help wasn't she?

I would like to point out that Hoid is more concerned with Cosmere wide happenings, and the Alloy of Law series is a lot more personal to Wax and the city, without too many impacts on the Cosmere as a whole. Hoid did not appear in AoL as far as I know, and the reason to pop up in SoS might be because of Hemalurgy, but I still don't think that Hoid really cares that much about Scadrial at that time.

I disagree. There certainly seems to be outside shardic influence occurring in SoS. I think Hoid wants to be around anytime shards are interacting. 

Fair - Still a restricted topic

Right, to me it seems similar to Vin's burning of pewter before she understood what she was doing. She was burning trace amounts in her blood to the same effect. Vin, however, was a very strong mistborn with a very small amount of investiture from the trace pewter. Wax seem like he is the opposite; a very weak ability with pewter granted from his earring with a very large amount of investiture that he can pull from the mists. 

Dang, this is getting into territory outside the sphere of this forum then.

Uh. We don't know much about her (was she a girl? I can't remember...), but she is Nazh's... employer? master? and the one Hoid exchanges letters with in some of WoK/WoR epigraphs.

Interesting, does this info come from unpublished works or wob?

White Sand spoilers aren't supposed to be discussed on the open forum. I've added you to the PM group, acatnamedkaren.

 

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As to the Shardpool:

 

I for one am having suspicions that it's not a Shardpool, and that the newspaper is making it up. The main thing in favor of the story is that the pool was found up high on a mountain (Shardpools like mountains). However, it's blue - Harmony is a mix of white and black, why is it blue? Is blue a very "harmonious" color?

 

Broadsheets don't strike me as particularly reliable.

 

I'll agree it's more likely than not a Shardpool simply because it seems like the sort of thing Brandon would throw in, though.

Is that PM group for people who have read White Sands? If so could someone please invite me? I read it quite some time ago.

This explains a lot, especially why he's the only shard on his world. Good question, we're lucky Brandon decided to answer.

 

 

 

Hoid's beef with Bavadin is a lot more natural now, it's exactly the same reason he was writing Frost: he believes strongly in interfering with events on Shardworlds to further his agenda. Bavadin would naturally oppose that, so when he gets into Bavadin's sphere of influence for any reason, Hoid has to deal with a hostile Shard. That doesn't rule out personal reasons as well, but it does explain why he'd continue to apply those feelings to a Shard.

 

Brandon is on record (I believe it might even have been on the TWG forum?) as saying not all shards are as neatly opposed as Preservation and Ruin. Whether that means that everything is paired off and the pairs are a bit looser, or whether some shards don't have opposing pairs, is up for speculation. That said, looking at relationships like Cultivation to Preservation, where they would disagree half the time (where cultivation would want to prune excess or evolve something in a way that changed or ruined it) and agree the other half, (where cultivation would want to fortify, feed, or grow something in a way that preserved its essence) I'd be inclined to suggest that some shards have a more complex relationship with the other Shards' intents than simple opposing pairs.

Um...who is Frost?

It's also possible Bavadin might still be resisting his Shard's Intent after all this time (I seem to recall a WoB saying some holders were still but can't remember the location)

Perhaps the shard's intent itself does not allow it to influence its holder. Kind of a catch-22 there.

So I know that they are distributing Aether to people who ask for it. Just like Peter will send you a copy of White Sands if you ask. My question is can someone who already has it provide a link  (or email it)? When Peter sent me White Sands he said that I could give it to people but not post it anywhere. 

Only reason I ask is that it took me 6 months to get a reply to my request for White Sands, and I'm sure that with Brandon becoming more and more popular I prefer not to bug the Sanderteam, but would very much like to read Aether.

So what would happen if you get some sort of automated weapon to attack him anyway? I guess the concept of fear has to exist for the attacking party in the first place to trip the weakness?

That's how I would perceive it. Perhaps it's backwards to say there has to be an absence of all fear and worry. It is likely more correct to say that the presence of any fear or concern at all means that you can't harm him. 

Yes he´s been very bad but still in a position where he could recover, probably. He certainly wouldn´t have started to suddenly murder other Reckoners without it.

I really hope Prof is redeemed. The book alludes to two separate possibilities:

A - Exploiting Prof's weakness and capturing him, keeping his weakness in effect long enough that the corruption fades away. This was alluded to by David talking about doing exactly this to other Epics. The problem I see with it is that how do you know if the corruption is gone as opposed to an Epic pretending to be better just to be let go? Then murder-fest.

B - Prof himself spoke about having to put down a friend who has been corrupted like putting down a rabid dog. There is symmetry in Prof himself having to be put down. I would be sad, but it would make for an extremely compelling ending. 

This is what I assumed at first, then I looked back and he used superhuman strength against David's father, which is what really killed him. A possible explanation to that is that after hurting him, his father grew afraid, but I'm not sure how far I'd trust that to be a rule. 

I always took this to mean that David's father got at least a little worried when he shot SH. And that was enough to negate the weakness. My take on it has always been that in order to trip SH's weakness you have to be utterly convinced  that SH is no threat to you at all. Even Prof who is pretty ridiculously powerful was worried enough about fighting him that he couldn't exploit the weakness. Same goes for every other High Epic who faced off against SH. No matter how confident they were, even with a Prime Invincibility, they were at least concerned enough that they couldn't trip his weakness.

In fact in the years since David's dad, the only person who was confident enough that SH wasn't a threat to trip the weakness was SH himself.

So I agree his threshold is extremely low. There is no margin for error.

I'm fairly certain that is what she meant.

However there was a line earlier in the book where she was talking about the spyril and said that the procedure usually resulted in the death of the Epic that was being harvested. Maybe she can do it better with Calamity's help. I don't know. 

It's also possible that [he] in fact looks nothing like an angel, and that is simply what David's mind perceived as Calamity's powers began to touch him. That might even be what Calamity wants people to see when he gifts them. We have no idea the scope of Calamity's abilities. Skewing what people perceive when they look at him (either through a telescope or any other means ) is well within what he could be capable of.

I also thought that setting up the gun for remote firing was a large stretch. How would she know which room to aim it into? What would have happened if prof had put a larger field around the entire room? How much time did she spend plotting and setting that up before running in to save her love? It doesn't fit together very well. 

Someone mentioned that she should be carrying around a suicide pill. That seems like a pretty decent way to go.

It's possible that nothing would negate SH's powers entirely. After all if his weakness was just being in the presence of someone who was not afraid of him then his powers would never work, since he was not afraid of himself. 

However it is entirely possible that his powers simply wouldn't work on someone who wasn't afraid of him. 

Do not forget the Pink Pinkiness!

Sorry if I was unclear about my point, but this was what I meant.

 

It could also be that the weakness has to be prominent enough to... be a weakness.  For example, an epic could be really scared of black cats with white patches on the front left and right back legs, which would cause them to have neutralized powers when they're around cats.  Similarly, if Edmund was attacked by a labrador once, he may be weak to all dogs.  That sort of thing.

In rereading your post I can see now that we are saying the same thing.

Tecnically it´s possible for an Epic to do so and be completely unaware that they are no longer under corruption. However, given the Rending they would first have to get away from their initial corruption to get to that point, where they are willing to do it.

Unless she did what David did and got over her fears before she became an Epic. 

(I don't think this is the case, just stating the possibility)

I agree again with that number person. I don't think we ever actually saw Megan successfully use any of Prof's powers. I think what we saw happen with David was legit - ie: he's not an epic (although this is Brandon we're talking about so who knows)

Perhaps now that Megan has beaten her weakness she could give up her powers if she wanted to as well? Or maybe there is only a single opportunity event to do that.

Could somebody please upvote tbone for me?  I was scrolling on my phone and accidentally hit the downvote button

Done.

Also I think that in the case of the Kool Aid it is not the actual substance that she fears exactly, but rather it is symbolic of the traumatic event that occurred. 

Same with Mitosis. He's not actually AFRAID of his own music, but his experience trying to become a musician was traumatic to him and his music symbolizes that for him.

"Ok, ok. Let's see. I point. They die. Diefinger! No, that sounds too German everyone will want to know what it means.

Hm. I point at people, and bam! They become skeletons. So I point and they become way less than they were. Point...less.

I am Pointless!"

Perhaps facing your weakness cleanses the corruptive (not a word spell check?) nature of the powers. Actually getting over the fear entirely causes the weakness to go away (no weakness Epic)

....a potato in a mine-field. You weren't sure what to expect when you started, but it wasn't that.