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I wonder why he doesn't switch back those regular metals then. Maybe it's like 80% steel then? Or 70%?

1. He couldn't past and he still didn't do it Is even when he had good reason to. 2. I think you understand omniscience, Omniscience is not being Is able to do anything, It's having the power needed to do anything. A shard ( Pretend for a second that I'm right about this for the sake of argument please) Did have infinite power they still couldn't make a married bachelor. But that wouldn't mean They weren't omniscient, Because the reason they can't make it married bachelor is not because they lack the power it's because by definition you cannot have a married bachelor. 3. The vessel can't touch the beyond, Never said The Shard couldn't. In fact as we see an oath bringer we have good reason to believe a shard could theoretically at least. 4. No it's not it was a different one.

Maybe but how much? The vials are the same size of his regular vials more or less, If they had half the steel Surely he would have said something. So is it like 90% steel 10% all other metals?

1.Considering odium hasn't done that yet I think it's safe to assume that's not an option. 2. I fail to see the difference beyond semantics. 3. You may have a point Can we say at least say that if the there essentially enfinet then there essentially omnipotent? 4. I'll try to find the wob, But it was someone asking for clarification of the wob earlier. Basically they are wondering if the cosmere was in danger of running out of investigature. Basically he answered that investigure would long out last the heat death of the Universe, so no.

When did it say that? I thought that was just a special one. Rest were just steel weren't they? Does anyone have the book on hand, would love if you could clear this up.

Remember that he hasn't been taking pewter so hes only burning traces hes showing about as much power as vin did when she was doing so.

1. I don't understand what you're said staying, Future site can be blocked by future site. That just makes sense I don't see how it changes anything. I don't understand the last part distinction from what it seems like we switched Topic somehow I didn't realize. I think I need clarification I miss something somewhere. 2. Personally I wouldn't put it that way. I wouldn't say that they are Is governed by laws of nature. They aren't affected by things like gravity, friction, Strong and weak weak forces, and so on. Instead they seem to be governed by the laws of investiture, Intent, identity, Connection and so on. There is perhaps some overlap here in some ways but they're not a 1 for 1. I don't see anything that indicates that as if yet.

It specifically says he was burning something.

Wrong again. Dominion and devotion were combined to form the door. Splinters of honor still exist on rocher, And well we don't know much about ambition we can rest assured splinters of her exist out there too. Investor cannot be destroyed. The shards are merely divided. Harmony clearly says that the shards are infinite. Unless you're supposed to be somehow lied to hoid. Elsewhere Brandon has said that the shards will outlive the heat death of the universe that's not infinite then it's so large It might as well be. I would like to remind you that wabs are soft cannon.

We literally have a Harmony telling us that a shard has infinite power. What do you mean they're not omnipotent? Name something they Don't have the power to do? 1. No they can't die for already explained that's the vessel. Preservation and ruin were not destroyed when Ati And leras died. 2. Read rhythm of war harmony says they have access to infinite investiture. Brandon Sanderson has said himself that The universe will be completely destroyed long before the shard run out of investure. And that's after creating the universe. That sounds pretty infinite to me. You're the one ignoring the evidence not me. 3. Actually I think that not the God beyond but, Adualsium is The closest thing to an Abraham a God in the cosmere.

1. I See what you mean, I think that's what I would call faith in God As opposed to merely believing in God. 2. I've always considered sovereignty as a separate issue from omniscience. That does change the perspective a bit I suppose. 3. I agree Jasna is the type of atheist I'd expect in the cosmere. 4. I see what you mean however I would disagree this is not quite the same thing. When an atheist says that they believe in themselves It's a statement merely of arrogance And self confidence, and self reliance. And while I would say that kelsier Has all 3 of these, However I would argue that his words To the southerners betray that These things are not why he considers himself a God. His words to them seem to indicate that he considers himself a God for the same reason that the Lord ruler considered himself a God his connection to preservation. His reasoning comes from more than just arrogance ( Though that too) But also wrapped in a theological framework. I would think that by that mindset he probably views harmony as a God as well.

1.hoa states pretty clearly that the reason for there inability was there intent not lake of power. 2. RoW harmony clear states that the power of a shard is infinite so have two of them would given much of a advantage. So lack of power should keep a shard from being able to make a planet. 3.Wrong you can have limited omnipotents otherwise the Yhwy would not be considered omnipotent. So long as the limiter isn't lake of power, then it works. 4. If John Fry’s is as you described then he is not a atheist, at least not a modern atheist, perhaps he is using the original classical meaning, or simply using the word wrong. 5.Jasnah is not atheist in the way we use the term. Perhaps she could be considered a cosmere equivalent. 6. So what? Agnostic is not an atheist 7. Well kel very much believed in the Lord ruler. Why else would you try to kill something you don't believe exist? 8. Kel was also ingnorate at the time, so that just goes back to my original statement. 9. Also not believe in × god doesn't make you atheist. 10. Punching god in the face is not make you an atheist. 11. Being disrespectful, or Disobedient, to God Does not make you an atheist. 12. Being God's friend doesn't not mean you do not worship him. 13. Not worship of God doesn't not make you atheist. 14. Kel is not an atheist 15. Even if leras is impotent that means nothing. There are plenty of religions were gods are not all power. The fact the you assume that someone would see that and become an atheist show that must be only familiar with abrahamic religions. Not all religious come from Judaism. Not all religious expect there Gods to be good, wise or all powerful. 16. Repeat Kel is not an atheist. He literally punch his creator in the face. How could he do that yet doubt preservations existence? a·the·ist /ˈāTHēəst/ Learn to pronounce noun a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods. "he is a committed atheist" As for his religion, we know he believes himself a god from his words to the southerners like the RL before him, hes a survivalist Own the original topic. I wonder how the sliverist will react to all the sightings of marsh? I suspect that what's the war of the shards start Harmony will receive more influence.

Of course not but what's that have to do with it? I already state that shards are limited by vessels. The vessel while fused with a god, he was once human. A human mind even a the superhuman mind of a vessel can not comprehend infinite possible future. That why they act limiters to shards. The power of infinite god melded with flawed humanity. As for intent with have seen already that they limited shards I don't see why you have a problem with it.

1. Endowment 2. no the vessel couldn't reliably see the future. As I have already stated vessel are limiters of there shard as well as their intents. 3. You seem to have multiple misunderstandings about atheist in your statment I need to break it down in order to explain A. Some Atheists reject the EXISTS of the abrahamic God for because of our imperfect world. They Argue that our imperfect world is proof that God does EXIST. That is not what your discibing. No one is saying that the shards don't really exist. B. Never said anything about atheism having anything to do with science. C. Atheist reject more than just the abrahamic God so they'll of course have more reasons than just this to justify Atheism. E. I said Satan not Satanist. Satan of Christianity not only knows God exists he lives in terror of him. He is clearly no atheist.

In that case it's probably a limited imposed by the entent of the shard.

Thanks for the clarification.

1. Incorrect, Preservation and ruin couldn't create themselves because of their intent not because they lack the power. Other shards of equal power but with different intent can create demonstrating that It is well within there capabilities. 2. We don't know why he was bad at fortune, The vessel is a limit on The Shard, So it could be that this was just Something unique to the vessel. Alternatively his intent could make it difficult, Either way I don't see how this detracts from the omniscience of the shard. 3. I agree but what you are describing isn't atheism but it's not how we know it. I'm not saying everyone will follow the shards or worship them. But that's not the same as disbelief in the existence of. Satan is by definition not an atheist.

I think you're confused Non invested metal= not god metal, The question isn't about Burning versus non burning metals. Burning metals doesn't invest them, They're just a key. I think you really underestimate mistborn especially with new metals. Not to mention harmonium. Regular Guns are hardly effective against coin shots They're not touching a mistborn. Remember mistborn can literally stop time. And while guns may make some things harder they will also make the mistborn more deadly. Imagine Vin with waxes grenade launcher. Yes, I too am unsure if it could penetrate shard plate Probably not in a single shot would be My guess. But It's still Really effective against regular soldiers. And combined with diralumin actually might be able to penetrate penetrate shard plate (Though Living plate would probably be healed by storm light).

Before he found hoid. He's exhausted he tries to burn steel but runs out, Then he finds something else within him and starts burning it, (traces of pewter) Suddenly he has the energy to keep going.

1. When he is try to swim back. 2. It been awhile since I read bands maybe i think I forgot that part.

That wob doesn't saying anything about the metals your not burning.

A leech only works on metal you are currently burning.

He uses it after Sazed saves him

Sorry I ment Pewter

I wouldn't say it was that low he burned durilumin just fine after all.