CosmicSieve

Sadeas: Sah DAY chull (there's apparently a filter that doesn't approve of the way I say it!) Shallan: SHALL n Jasnah: JAZZ nuh Kholin: KHOH lin Szeth: Szeth Aimia: AY MEE uh

Perhaps all the ancient, major cities once had their own patron spren, most of which are now lost or forgotten. Kolinar does have the strata through its walls, just like Urithiru; maybe it was meant to have a spren, too.

I was talking about the characters' perceptions of who is a match for their own maturity level. I think people generally would prefer a match with someone they consider around there own maturity level, which doesn't necessarily have to do with actual age, but actual age might matter to the characters' perceptions. I do disagree with Jasnah's assessment that Kaladin's objections are childish, but that was her opinion.

Of course, my point still stands: Azure thinks Kaladin belongs in a younger maturity bracket than she does, and Jasnah seems to place Kaladin in an even younger maturity bracket than that.

Just wanted to point out that Oathbringer showed us another arranged marriage, and Dalinar and Evi did not have a happy marriage.

I don't know her true age, but Adolin pegged her at mid-thirties in appearance. I haven't read Warbreaker yet, though, so I can concede that she could just be a young-looking bajillion for as far as I know.

I guess it comes down to how the age gap feels to the potential romantic participants. I personally don't feel any romantic chemistry between Jasnah and Kaladin, but I have fun reading other people's ships, because why not. I think the "major maturity issue" that would matter is that Jasnah likens Kaladin to a child with her mink kit comment. Azure, who I thought had great chemistry (romantic or not) with Kaladin, likens Kaladin to a young hothead. So there are two women in their mid-thirties who think Kaladin belongs in a younger maturity bracket, which makes me think there is a maturity issue. But there is no reason people shouldn't have fun discussing a ship it if they want to, no matter how implausible to happen some other random internet person thinks it might be.

Yeah, I think Warbreaker was on my mind. I am surprised I didn't write Warbringer as well as Oathbreaker, as long as I was busy mixing things up.

Heh, oops. I'll edit a fix! Thanks.

I am still looking forward to Szeth's backstory. And my boredom with the Nale and the Skybreakers interactions definitely made me skim past some important stuff. I do agree that Oathbringer's denouement should have included reactions to Szeth joining Team Dalinar. It does seem like a major diplomatic nightmare, considering all the assassinations he committed across Roshar. Jasnah was the only one who was given an incredulous reaction to Szeth showing up for the battle, but that was never returned to afterwards. Some strong character interaction would have gone a long way here. Thanks, everyone, for the replies. When I reread Oathbringer I'll do it at a slower pace, and try to enjoy the details. Actually, I started rereading The Way of Kings, and will probably read Warbreaker next, so my Oathbringer reread won't be for ages.

Can't get the splitty-up-quote-thing to work with my computer. 1) I was thrown off by the weather. Szeth falls into the stormwall but it is sunny when he talks to Nalen. 2) Yeah, there might be some future thing where it is relevant. 3) I wouldn't blame it for being scared of Nightblood. But it is too bad that Nightblood is so overwhelming in this case. 4) I felt that when I read Oathbringer that I could follow it fine without having read any other Cosmere stuff. It's just that Nightblood does stand out as a extradimensional McGuffin. Azure was okay, though I am disappointed she's not a radiant and I hope she comes back. I only pegged Zahel as an extradimensional traveller because of the kata. Thanks for the heads up on the OB tag.

It is a bit disappointing. I think I am forgetting too how spren act when they are newly bonded. Pattern creeped around like a baby learning to get into stuff, and Syl was child-like and flighty. I hope the spren will at least get some development-- and a name-- next book. 1) I did mention the fabrial 3) Huh, okay. Did not know that about highspren. 4) Good to know. 5ish) Yeah, the backstory I am definitely looking forward to. I just hope his present story is more interesting to me in the book inbetween.. EDIT: I was going to reply to Calderis, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to split a quote into parts on this forum, and I can't find a how to section. What am I missing?

So I read the Stormlight books for the first time recently, and I haven't read Warbreaker or Edgedancer or anything else in the Cosmere. Looks like I need to read Warbreaker, but at the moment it would feel like 500 pages of homework, plus I am in the middle of reading a really long web serial and have decided I hate reading stories on my computer. I want to get a hard copy to read. After thinking for a while about where the Stormlight story is going, I realized a dissatisfaction with Szeth's storyline from the end of WoR through Oathbringer. Worse, I found myself getting bored whenever his chapters popped up, and thus probably didn't read them closely enough and missed some vital explanations on what is going on. So, if you all can help me out here, please do! 1) At the end of WoR, Nale shows up out of the blue and brings Szeth back to life, using a fabrial. Now Lift did this with Gawx using her KR power, but she did it right after Gawx had died. Nale can apparently cast Raise Dead on people who have been pining for the fjords for many hours. That's... MAJOR. More of those things could be built. Nale could constantly be bringing back his lost followers. He could have an army of never-can-be-permanently-dead followers with ill-attached souls. The books never touch on the implications of this, though. 2) Szeth's ill-attached soul is mentioned as something some people can see as an after image, but doesn't seem to have any particular effect beyond that. 3) Szeth got a spren, right? He needs one so he can do Surges when Nale isn't within 50 miles of him, but so far the poor spren has no personality. This is disappointing, considering how much personality Syl, Pattern, Stormfather, Timbre, and even Ivory and Maya get. 4) Sword-nimi has a lot of personality, and I gather from reading these boards that it is from Warbreaker and is named Nightblood. So I'll call it Nightblood from now on despite not having read Warbreaker. I love Nightblood. The sword is hilarious. It is also feels like a waaay over-powered McGuffin that came out of nowhere and is there for plot reasons. So, why did Nale give this mega-sword specifically to Szeth? It must be for some Crazy Herald Acting On Odium Prescience reason that has yet to be revealed, but for now it just is there for no known reason which is kinda annoying. What interested my about Szeth in the early books was wanting to know his backstory and what was going on in Shin. That still interests me. It is just his present stoy that bothers me.

Agree that there will be consolidating and positioning. I want to see more Radiants show up. Since we also know that there will be a fifteen year break after the fifth book, it occurs to me that Kaladin's new kid brother will be the perfect age to start Knight Radianting at that point, freeing Kaladin from having to produce any next generation so he can die lonely concentrate on his job. But this makes me wonder if Shallan and Adolin will have a kid, since the NO MATING edict is no longer in effect.

Thank you! Totally missed that.

I just finished the three Stormlight books, and with my brain like a sieve I find all the little details filtering away, and I feel like some important tidbits are just gone from my brain and there are just too many thousands of pages for them to hide in. So, if any of you can refresh my memory, I would be grateful. 1. How did the soulcaster break? When I first heard it was broken in WoK and the damage was described, I assumed it was a shadeblade that did the damage and that Shallan did it when she killed her father. This turned out not to be the case. Did we ever find out what cut the chains, and who had it when it happened? 2. If Lin was working with the Ghostbloods, what the heck were the Ghostbloods trying ti achieve with the help of such an unlikable guy? 3. Who was Helaran working with? Same group as Gavilar? 4. If the Shard Bearer that Kaladin killed actually was Helaren (it was definitely Helaran's sword, and Amaram said the guy was Veden), where did he get the black horse and Shard Plate? 5. There were hundreds if not thousands of people who saw the Shard Bearer on the field, though not the battle where he was killed. Why did Amaram wait six months to publically lay claim to the Shards?