Plum Rhinoceros

@Salmon Meerkat sorry, but I really think we need to go through with this lynch. You're the best suspicion I have rn.

Okay so it looks like a meerkat lynch is probably going through and I'm going through their posts as promised. 1. Jokingly posts about pink animals being evil and says that ostrich needs to remove their vote from them and that they are displaying pink behavior so they're evil lol. (A fun post but does help me see that ostrich was voting meerkat at the beginning and not sure if an elim teammate would do that so I'll keep that in mind regarding ostrich/meerkat interactions.) 2. Comments on Ostrich removing their vote and says that they're suspicious of gecko for voting octopus (I think this was back when the joke voting was going around so I won't take it too seriously lol) 3. Makes a serious post about why we should have a day 1 lynch and again mentions gecko needing to explain their vote. Says that they have no information about swan but votes for them and then gives reasons... (what happened to the no information?:P) says that swan voted dragonfly without reasons and doesn't like them voting through rp. Says they don't agree with the lynch on gecko or penguin and wants to switch the lynch to swan. (Possibility for penguin/meerkat team if meerkat flips elim. I wouldn't see an elim starting a new lynch on swan if they were an elim trying to just put a vote somewhere, because they could easily have voted one of the two other candidates. But it could've been a way to distract from penguin lynch.) I understand that bit. Really, I wanted another point to express to make my argument seem more valid 4. Said this in their next post. (looking for reasons to add to the vote? Looks a little suspicious since they didn't need a reason to lynch an active player like swan on day 1 unless they had a reason for it. I.E. to save penguin maybe) still just theorizing this. 5. They say they didn't like the 3 way tie for the lynch but still have their vote on swan. (I'm becoming more convinced that meerkat is an elim, but I'm not sure if I've just convinced myself so everything looks fishy or if it's true.) 6. Responds to swan about their numbers on the lynch. (This post is basic nai info to me) Not that the argument was wrong, rather that it didn't mean anything. It was fluff, a filler, an illusion of size. And I wasn't lying, because I truly did feel like it was a little confusing. You miss the true reason why I brought such a forward argument. I feel that someone, should be lynched today. There are 30 of us, quite a lot, and quite difficult to keep track of all at once. I didn't see much reason in lynching Gecko, who wouldn't give us much information, so I wanted to present the village with another candidate. It was up to the village to determine how they felt about that. 7. This explanation bothers me. They get called out by toucan who I feel was in the right and then they don't even mention the fact that penguin was also up for the lynch when they proffered swan as a candidate? 8. Why vote someone who is mostly inactive? What analysis would we gain from that? And why switch from them to swan if you thought your reasons valid on day 1? @Salmon Meerkat 9. Welllll, they were kinda inactive soooo not as much chance they'd get on to defend themselves. An easy target? 10. Comments on the poem message and the fact that we lost a lightweaver. (NAI) 11. Says that their vote on swan day 1 was to generate discussion and provide new lynch candidates. (Not sure why they needed another candidate tho) 12. Says that flamingo was one of the only active players not to have voted yet in the cycle when they made this post and even gives a vote tally and comments about other players needing to be active. Doesn't vote and all they say about it is they aren't sure about the lynch candidates. (Seems odd to me that they were keeping up with the lynch but had nothing to add to it.) 13. Comments on if swan flips village then they'll feel bad for putting swan on everyone's radar day 1. Points out the lack of reasons given for people voting swan. (Was true that they didn't give reasoning for it, but we've been up and down and inside out about the whole pm vote thing that happened) I feel like meerkat was covering themself here because they knew swan would get lynched and flip village. Then casts suspicion on Beagle by saying if swan *does* flip village then they'll be sis of Beagle. This looks like something elim!meerkat could easily set up and may have taken advantage of this whole swan pm vote thing. 14. Swan flips village the next cycle and meerkat points to beagle. 15. Makes guesses at whether the dustbringer is village or not because of the opal kill. Talks about elims and where they might be found based on activity. (Pretty NAI because I could see this post from either side) 16. Says that they are sus of Beagle but doesn't want to vote them because he was an active player. Says they aren't sure about tuatara or vulture lynch. Doesn't vote. (Could be elim spreading doubt on Beagle without getting directly involved in a villager's lynch) 17. Votes crocodile for joining two separate bandwagon. (While I'm not sure of crocodile's alignment, finding out meerkat's could help.) 18. Their last post was something I already commented on earlier and is why I voted them to begin with. I will definitely be keeping my vote on meerkat and would like to ask others to do the same. I really think that this lynch would give us our first elim and they've had enough connections and posts for me to get info from their alignment if they flip elim. They have made a lot more posts than I had thought and going through them I get the feeling they have been trying very hard to avoid suspicion and their lack of voting, especially when compared to their insistence that we should have a day 1 lynch seems to contradict themself. Also, I noticed that scorpion voted crocodile along with meerkat after 3 votes in a row went towards the meerkat lynch. I can't help but feel this would tie scorpion to meerkat as well if meerkat flips elim. And finally done Edit: just realized that penguin was one of the meerkat voters so I'll keep that in mind regarding my meerkat/penguin theory lol.

Oh yes, @Sage Kangaroo sorry I forgot to respond to you. I'm not saying you're an elim because of your votes all hitting villagers. I guess it was just something I noticed while looking though your posts that everyone you've voted (even if you retracted your vote before the cycle ended) have all been confirmed village at this point. I'm not overly suspicious of you, I'm just saying that you're in my category of possibilities which makes me trust you less.

Lynches sometimes change in the last 10 minutes of the game There's no reason not to try and convince people with a few hours left if you actually suspect someone. If you sort of suspected the person in the lead than you could always place your vote there or vote for your choice with as compelling an argument you can give. Not voting makes you appear as if you're trying to stay out of trouble by lynching a villager. I'm not saying you are an elim if you don't vote, but it does look odd if you just decide not to. Plus, voting is important for helping us analyze players. I need to read through some more posts today before I get up anything else, but for now I see this as something an elim could do and others seem to find your actions throughout the game suspicious as well. For fear of not voting myself after this explanation of why you should always vote, meerkat I'll read through your posts tho and change my vote if I see a better possibility don't worry.

Ah thank you, Dragonfly, because I started doing the same thing, but didn't hit any of those players yet. I started with zebra and kangaroo for now. I'm just gonna post some notes I took regarding a few of their posts. Zebra: Overall, my read on Zebra came out very village. Kangaroo: Overall I get a possible elim vibe from Kangaroo. They appear sort of village, but I can see an elim making most of the posts they did. I'll try and do more analysis tomorrow, and get up a vote. For now, goodnight.

By my count we still have 19 players left and a lot of games only start with 20 or 25 and generally it takes this long to find the elims. I wouldn't discount a normal size elim team just because we haven't hit any yet. It is discouraging I realize, but I wouldn't assume that the elims are a small group or even not very active. They may very well be some of the most active players we have. I was surprised by Gorilla's death because they were on my suspicions list. I hate to be glad they're dead, but it does help me narrow down my list. Still, all three of the players that died were active enough that it definitely hurt the village that they're out of the game. I've been wanting to do in depth analysis, but couldn't because of irl stuff. So, I'll jump into that now and post again when I get at least a good chunk of it done.

Sorry for the confusion. I am a pinchhitter and I was just making a joke. (Apparently not a very good one:P) As far as what you asked about the PM group, I don't think it was a good idea for them to discuss the lynch turn around in private if they weren't going to give good reasons for their votes in thread. I think most of them had good intentions, but I can see at least one being an elim and just going with it. Namely, ostrich or albatross so I'll try to look into them. (Also yes, if everyone could stick to calling people by their animal names then it would definitely help with clarity.) I don't see anything that made me? heh:P suspicious other than being inactive which, as you may have noticed, is why I'm now here. I'll get up my analysis during the day cycle because it's going to take me longer to get it ready than I have time left in this cycle. One thing I wanted to add though is that I don't agree that there is a small elim team just because one hasn't been caught yet. That happens all the time and the game started with 30 players. Also, while it can be fun and sometimes helpful to try and guess at what roles the elims have, it's not necessarily as important as discussing individual players. I think it would be the most helpful if everyone could get up a list of who they suspect and who they don't. Those help me find who isn't likely to be on the same elim team and if someone dies then it gives me something more concrete to look at what they said about the other players. I think in general, activity has been really good in this game and keep up the good work at getting people involved everyone.

Let's see. Info dump will have to wait until the morning when my brain can function and I can spew the random mess floating around in my head. For now, I'd just like to poke into the midst of the crowd and say I'm sus of gorilla, kangaroo, vulture, mouse, and possibly a few others. I'll let your curiosities boil as to why until I sleep and return... I may or may not feel like a new rhino after some sleep.

It interests me that Ivory said: While I understand that lynches is how we kill mafia, but it seems weird to me that they talked about how little information we have for the lynch, but insisted that we need a lynch. This just feels off to me. As for my vote, I am going to vote Onyx Flamingo for lack of a better thought and the fact that people need to vote

Which, in part, is why I am trying to get stuff up. So that you don't assume I'm an Elim

Just out of curiosity, Ivory, how is it that you don't trust Flamingo, but at the same time agree w/ them? That doesn't seem right to me.

Hi, sorry for not being active much thus far. Similar to Octo, I am having some trouble keeping up, and don't have a ton of time to be on and do a ton of analysis. That said, I do plan on being active in the future, and I have done some analysis. What really stood out to me is how Onyx Flamingo was aggressive when accused earlier by Ivory Dragonfly. This has the only thing I have come up with so far, and am by no means accusing them, but would like an explanation of the aggression.

I am active, but do not have time to post anything right now.