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I think that Cultivation and the new Prudence should try to find each other so that Cultivation can unsplinter Prudence. For easier communication, Cultivation and Prudence should both move to Shadesmar, along with other people to keep any of Ocium's minions from figuring out who they are based on the new arrivals. Cultivation could use their secret vote to prove their identity to Prudence. (I wonder what would happen if a Shard fully stored Identity....) This is more complex for Prudence, who would have to Invest in a trusted person, who could then create a PM with themselves, Prudence, and Cultivation in it. However, this opens up more opportunities for Odium's minions to figure out who hold Cultivation and Prudence. Cultivation could, of course, use their Shardic ability on people who they think are likely to have been invested in by Prudence, but based on probability it would likely take quite a while until they chose the right one.
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(OOC: If a Shard gets passed on to somebody of a different alignment, do they keep their original alignment or get the original alignment of the Shard?)
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No items have been distributed yet, but this night an Awakened strawman for spying on people to figure out what type of action they used will be randomly given to one of the people here. I wonder what the physical limits of an Awakened strawman are. Oh, and it was implied that there could potentially be more than one item distributed here in the future.
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I'm on Nalthis (Breath is so versatile! I should buy some to experiment with it.) with two other people. If they want to, they can claim, but I'm not going to claim for people who want the world they're on to be relatively secret.
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I don't feel like I have enough information yet to be able to make a decision about who to execute. If only I could see into the future, like with Atium but much farther. Hmmm... an F tin/A atium twinborn would be able to store up future sight and tap it as intensely as needed, but you'd need a lot of atium to be able to see far enough into the future to get information about who's on Odium's side. Oh yes! Odium! I completely forgot about that for a moment. I'm in favor of starting to search for him and his champions as soon as possible, but I'm not that good at reading people. (OOC: This is true both in character and out of character) Having neutral shards claim seems like too clear of a bad idea for somebody on Odium's side to try to pass as an honest, good suggestion and not in favor of a death penalty for bad ideas, so I don't think I'll vote on that weirdly green kangaroo.
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(My RP character will be Relas. She often gets distracted by ideas about how to hack magic systems.) Odium is trying to killl all of the Shards and we need to stop him, right? Oooh! Could somebody have multiple Shards and be more powerful? That'd help with the Odium problem, and it might possibly decrease the influence of the Shard's intents which gives me an idea about how we could stop Cognitive Shadows becoming too focused on their Intents. Ah. Having multiple shards is impossible. Oh well. But what if... that'd be difficult... oh yes, back to Odium. How could we stop him? If he's about to take over, Preservation could help us stall for time while we investigate more people, but that's far in the future. Shards definitely shouldn't go to the Rosharan system, and if there are any over there now, you should excape. However, Braize is a good place for people who have information about who's on Odium's side that would make them targets to be (insofar as Braize could ever be called a "good place to be") and Roshar is a good place to stop by if you're out of Investiture. Oh, and also, Invention: could you please give me at least some of the items that you make? I really want to experiment with how different magic systems interact. (OOC: It's okay if you don't give me the items that you make, that's just what my character would say)
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Hi all, Thanks for the confirmation, Scorpion. charcoal Hyena. I imagine part of the reason for the lessened activity in the thread is some PMs have been set up. Bold mine. This is an interesting idea. Can someone who has read the books more recently than I have remind me which if any of Lew's Therin's contemporaries might have been alive and still willing to help him around this time? Sincerely me.
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- chess in the spec doc again?
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Hi all, Is anyone willing to come forward and claim the kill on weasel? I'd be very interested to hear the reason why you'd like her eliminated. I'm going to place a vote on Charcoal Hyena . My win condition seemed compatible with Weasel's as both were achievable in concert with the death of Lews Therin. If Weasel considered Hyena a threat, it wouldn't hurt to role block her. Sincerely me.
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Hi all, I'm sorry to have missed so much Easter weekend was pretty busy for me In the spirit of joining with you and narrowing down the field to find Lews, I will reveal that I am a fosaken whose win condition is compatible with killing the Dragon I would not be opposed to finding out what a tied Lynch does, especially since death seems less than permanent. I'm going to go back and re-read the thread, but I thought I should at least post this really quick so you know I'm still here. Sincerely me
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Hi all, Just checking in. I've been at work or asleep. You'll never know which. Anyway, it looks like we have mostly discussed balefire. It's potential to undo death seems amazing, but really hard to pull off. For instance: If I was the deciding vote on a Lynch that killed someone in cycle one and was later removed from all of time in cycle five; does that mean the player I doomed four cycles previously was tied and has a fifty-fifty shot of returning to the game. And if they did return what happens to the votes cast in the other four cycles by the player who should have died. There must be some kind of time limit like kill a player and bring back someone they voted for last cycle or within the last two cycles. As far as win conditions, mine seems compatible with others. No doubt multiple of us can win in a cycle together. The trick is timing it and the difficulty is we don't know how many have access to balefire. The reveal that three people using balefire three times ends the game in a loss regardless of whether any of us have achieved a win condition means at least three have access to balefire, and it's more likely to be double that number. I'm not placing a vote just yet, but I will vote. Upon rereading my post, it occurs to me that with fourteen players, nine balefires kills over sixty percent of the players. If there are four people with access to balefire, eleven of us could be killed without ending the world. That means there must be some sort of reincarnation clause to undo balefires or there are only a few people with that power. Allow me to preface this by saying I don't believe it's a good idea to start killing indiscriminately, but I don't think three sets of three is as likely an ending to the game as we are led to believe. I'm off to do something or nothing, but I'll be back soon enough. Sincerely me
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- chess in the spec doc again?
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So, I'm kinda tired right now, but I would just like to say that I'm really proud of myself for how I played this game. I don't normally do that well when I'm a villager, so this was really cool for me. @Emerald Falcon @Amethyst Scorpion Thank you guys so much for RPing with me! I'm sorry I orchestrated both of your deaths, I was just very paranoid that one of you was secretly an elim. @Saffron Iguana @Salmon Meerkat @Ivory Dragonfly @Plum Rhinoceros @Scarlet Octopus @Quartz Zebra Good job at pulling off that win! Part of me is annoyed that my efforts at getting rid of a third of you didn't result in a village win, but also, by the time I was dead, I was rooting for the elims like I normally do when I spectate games. @Sunburst Toucan (OG and 2.0) @Violet Axolotl Thanks for having really fun PMs with me! To everyone else I don't have time to go through and mention, thank you so much for playing with me and making my first AG and Anon game really fun!
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To be fair, my one scan died soon after I scanned them. ....time to reread our PM, because I do not remember that. Also, I’m a Bondsmith. I didn’t cancel any votes during the day because I was too sick and tired and just forgot.
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I mean, to be fair, I only said you were my biggest suspicion because I can barely remember anything about anyone who’s left besides for Axolotl, Weasel, and Toucan, who I trust (for now). I did say I’m not certain you’re an elim (which probably doesn’t naturally imply how uncertain I am I guess), so there’s that too. Anyway, I’m willing to believe you for your response. That seems kind of like a villager thing to do, though I think it would be better if we didn’t waste kills on a player who’s supposedly gonna survive and instead try and kill someone we think might be an elim.
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So, I'm gonna go through and do an actual quick reread of everything soon (assuming I still feel up to it), but I just wanted to make a quick comment. This actually wouldn't prove anything, I don't think. Surviving the kill would prove you're an Elsecaller (though there is the possibility one of us, either an elim or villager, is a Windrunner and they're protecting you), but it wouldn't actually prove you didn't put the elim kill in. Since the Elsecaller's ability is passive, they can put in the kill and survive any kill attempts. This almost feels like you're begging for someone to try this so you can "prove" you're village. Now, I'm not certain you're an elim (I still wanna do my reread to make sure), but I think you're probably my biggest suspicion right now for this post alone.
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I guess I’ll vote on Flamingo too. Meerkat. I wish I had more time to really look over stuff, but I am just way too sick right now.
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Yeah, I told Weasel in my PM to attack Scorpion. Wish I hadn’t. Anyway, Meerkat. I’m putting a vote on them now because I probably won’t be on again before rollover. I’m sick right now and feel absolutely awful, so I’ll be spending most of today resting and packing to go back to college.
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Yeah, that makes sense. Makes me a little anxious because I don’t like being the example or leading people, but oh well. Also, I’m pretty sure you overestimate the amount of info I have.
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@Salmon Meerkat Yeah, this basically. I’m not infallible, so please don’t follow my lead as if I am. I was at a loss for reads yesterday and just went for Falcon because I was getting a similar vibe that I got from Rhino and Octopus. I really wish I’d gotten on before the end of the cycle to see Falcon’s response. Definitely would’ve taken my vote off him. Those posts, even before I saw the writeup, did not sound like an elim being angry about being lynched at all.
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Well, I didn’t think I was hedging when I wrote that post. I was just acknowledging the possibility that what I’m reading as village could just be a really good elim. I’m willing to believe they’re actually village for now, partly because of our PM. Also because if they’re one of the two players I think they are, then this behavior fits them pretty well. Also, I was working on a full analysis post earlier...but then got distracted and lost my focus and deleted what little I had already written. Before I deleted it, I had kinda come to the conclusion that Iguana is probably village. The possibility that Toucan and Iguana and Zebra were all elim teammates, and Iguana just made an arbitrary choice to lynch Zebra over Toucan is definitely a possibility, but Occam’s Razor says the simplest possibility is probably the true one. Which makes me think that Iguana is probably village. Toucan could still be an elim, but it’d probably be best if we just scanned them tonight. I’m not confident enough in my suspicion of them to suggest lynching or killing them. As for Meerkat, in their defense ( @Saffron Iguana), I too thought that Octopus’s posts were very well thought out...which is kinda what made me decide to kill them. It felt like they were putting tons of effort into analyzing things without really getting much out of it. Maybe. If I could explain what gave me the gut read on them, that’d make things a lot easier. Falcon. I’ve been getting that same gut feeling I had from Rhino and Octopus earlier in the game from Falcon, and hey, maybe I can get 3 elims in a row? Seriousky though, I’d much rather lynch Falcon than Meerkat. He’s ingrained himself so much in the discussions of the game without really producing much results. Me and Iguana have kind of done the same thing, but at least we’ve caught elims. (They did participate in the Rhino lynch, but that isn’t particularly noteworthy considering 12 other players did too).
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So, I really need to get ready for work, so I don't really have time to do any major rereads or anything, but I just find it really odd that most people are voting on Meerkat. Is there something that I missed that really screams elim? And as sad as I would be to lose one of my RP partners, I wouldn't be particularly opposed to a Falcon lynch. Would at least soothe my paranoia.
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I haven’t done my reread yet (I had a lot more to do today than I thought, so didn’t really have time to reread the thread after work, and when I did get home I played a board game with my dad and brother, and I’m too tired to reread the thread after my shower), but I think there might be something to look at with Scorpion. I’m not as sure about Meerkat, but it wouldn’t hurt to look at them too.
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I just realized I said that you protected me instead of what you actually did, scan me. But now I guess you did protect me too.
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Okay, that was an insanely good writeup. Thank you @Elbereth and @Fifth Scholar for the amazing write ups so far!!! Anyway, thank you to whoever protected me last night as well. I’m thinking the elim kill was on me, and probably at least one of the kills on the villagers was from an elim. Maybe Scarlet Octopus was an elim!Dustbringer, but I’m not sure. I’m pretty sure that Opal Lion was a village!Dustbringer kill. I mean, I almost killed Lion because of how much discourse was being had about them before I decided to kill Octopus, so it would’ve made sense from a villager standpoint to kill Lion. I’m glad I changed my mind though. I think we really should figure out who killed Vulture and Swan. I’m thinking the kill on Vulture was probably an elim and the kill on Swan was probably a villager. Mostly because I trusted Vulture and felt like more people did than just me. I could totally see someone deciding to kill Swan since they hadn’t posted as much. Personally, I felt like they were a villager from our PM and a couple posts too, which is why I removed them from my potential kill list. Anyway, from here, I’ll need to go back through Ocotpus’s and Rhino’s posts now and see how they were interacting and who neither of them were mentioning. Preliminary thoughts before I reread anything again: Amethyst Scorpion: One of my RP partners, so I'd rather not have them lynched or killed. Even despite that, I think I've been unbiased in my reading of their analysis, and I'm pretty sure their village. Soft Village Emerald Falcon: My other RP partner, so I'd rather not have them lynched or killed either. However, if either of my RP partners are an elim, I'd bet it's Falcon. I'll get into why once I do my reread at some point, but for now I don't think it's worth it to vote for them yet. Soft Elim Indigo Weasel: Unless their claim of having protected me is a very brash way of trying to pocket me, I think they're village. I'd be willing to look into them if none of my other elim reads pan out, however. Soft Village Magenta Albatross: I'm not sure. Probably an elim. Mauve Crocodile: So, before Octopus flipped elim, I was soundly pretty sure that Croc was a villager, based on their reaction to everyone talking about them and the fact that they even claimed to be the Dustbringer who killed Rhino. However, reading back through the second post from Octopus that Iguana linked above, I noticed this bit: Octopus was heavily leaning into the narrative that Croc was a villager. Their confidence in Croc being cleared...puts little confidence in me that they were actually cleared. Croc is once again my strongest elim read right now. Hard Elim Mint Heron: Honestly, I can't even remember much of what they've posted so far, so I need to watch for them in my reread. Neutral Onyx Flamingo: See Mint Heron. Neutral Saffron Iguana: I'm fairly pretty sure they're village, just from the way they've been posting since D1, though there is still the possibility that they bussed Rhino to gain some village cred. They've been posting a lot of pretty decent analysis so far, but that isn't that hard to do as an elim. Soft Elim Sage Kangaroo: A part of me wants to be annoyed by their RP, but I think that leads down a dangerous path. It would be too easy for us to start determining what RP is okay and what types of posts are allowed. Which is all kinds of NOPE for me. @Sage Kangaroo I do wish you would post at least some analysis along with your RP, though I do understand if doing so would reduce the already limited time you have available to play. I'd rather you have fun than worry about trying to analyze and keep up with the game. Salmon Meerkat: I've got a bit of a village gut read on them, but I don't know how much of that is just because they haven't posted much or they've posted stuff I agree with. I'll need to check that on my reread. Soft Village Sunburst Toucan: I honestly haven't been keeping track of them much since the whole D1 fiasco. My thoughts about them are still basically the same as they always were: it would take a lot of unfortunate luck for the elims to have had to make the choice of either lynching Toucan or Rhino. If Toucan is an elim, might need to look into Iguana as well. Soft Elim Violet Axolotl: They've been doing some pretty good analysis, and seem pretty genuine in our PMs. That's not very hard to do as an elim, but I'm willing to believe it for them (if they who I think they are), and there are people I trust much less than them. Hard Village
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Jonan watched as Sein flew over to the body of Brana and studied her. For a moment, he could’ve sworn Sein...grew. Jonan shook his head. I’m just imagining things, he thought, because I’m tired and tensions are high. He walked over to Sein, looking at Brana’s corpse over him. “What are you looking at her for?” Jonan asked Sein. @Emerald Falcon @Amethyst Scorpion
