Turquoise Gorilla

Cream Tuatara(3) – Mint Heron, Indigo Weasel, Emerald Falcon Joe(3) – Chartreuse Penguin, Sunburst Toucan, Saffron Iguana Ivory Dragonfly(1) - Cream Tuatara Azure Mouse(2) – Oxblood Beagle, Turquoise Gorilla Charcoal Hyena(2) – Ivory Dragonfly, Magenta Albatross() Current vote status & placeholder vote to avoid Joe's penalty @Magenta Albatross You didn't remove your vote from Joe

That seems reasonable. Lion

If I'm correct, the current status is Axolotl(1):Albatross Crocodile(6): Weasel, Iguana, Dragonfly, Zebra, Mouse, Falcon Lion(5): Crocodile, Flamingo, Hyena, Tuatara, Dingo Dingo(2): Axolotl, Gecko Weasel(1):Heron I haven't decided who I think should die yet, but I am open to being convinced

If I may ask, who gave you that information and why would they have deceived you?

In the sake of not name-calling, "color" and "colour" are pronounce the same, but "colour" has an extra, useless letter. As such, "color" is more efficient with time and effort. English and English are different dialects of the same language.

Color is correct, and anyone who tells you otherwise is an imperial heathen

What you're supposed to be doing is spelling color correctly

Sorry all for going silent, I had to play host for my parents and that took up far too much time. I have returned and will provide some sort of thoughts after I catch up on the thread (and sleep)

You could upvote them with your regular account. Upvotes don't say who they're from so there is minimal risk in being discovered That is a very cute lion

Considering we already have 2 downed village Lightweavers, elim vote manipulators seem very likely at this point. Here are the changes - Tuatara's vote is missing. Beagle's vote is missing. Crocodile's vote was moved from Flamingo to Tuatara. I figure the Sympathizers can figure this out easily enough, so no harm in guessing that Beagle is a Willshaper and moved Crocodiles vote which is why their own vote was cancelled, and Tuatara was likely Soothed by Dragonfly's contact. Thanks for the explanation, and no need to apologize. I'm glad when players fully explain themselves when voting, it just felt a little off to me for whatever reason.

This post feels off to me. It feels like they're going over the top to give their reasons for voting on Flamingo, like they expect him to flip village and they want to have plenty of excuses for why they voted on him. I would agree with this, except for the fact that Tuatara just keeps doing things that would be so obvious as an elim that I can't really believe he is. Well, Beagle admitted it was a gamble, which implies he understands he'd get suspicion for it if he was wrong. So I don't agree with this. That, and the fact that he was openly saving Flamingo with his late lynch while this late lynch on Flamingo isn't quite as focused on saving Tuatara, which is what I'd expect from a lynch that the Sympathizers are forcing to save a teammate, since they wouldn't want to draw attention to the fact they're saving their teammate. Is Flamingo a new player? I thought that was Dragonfly who said they were new? @Quartz Zebra, about your earlier mention of me. I did vote on Salmon Meerkat earlier, but I did so with false accusations(not on purpose, just thought he'd posted something that someone else posted), so I felt I should remove my vote until I put a solid case against him. Forgot to quote this, so: "Gorilla- Is a pinch hitter. Says they would rather lynch Vulture than Tautara... But then doesn't make any move to vote in that way. I get that you don't really like either candidate that well, but is there a reason you aren't going to use your vote to cause the result you said you would prefer? I am kind of wary of this sort of behavior." - Gecko I normally would have, but like I said, I couldn't seem to gather my thoughts at the time, and neither of them were targets I liked. If I had done anything more at that point, it would have been to build a case for an alternative target, but I couldn't focus well enough to do that. Another vote tally: Vulture(2): Penguin, AlbatrossBeagle(4): Heron, Weasel, Mouse, GorillaTuatara(7): Dragonfly, Beagle, Vulture, Scorpion, Elephant, Toucan, FlamingoFlamingo(5): Gecko, Kangaroo, Tuatara, Zebra, Crocodile Okay, we've only got 1 hour left, so here's my current thoughts. No time to do an alternate lynch on anyone besides these 4 players. Of the four lynches, Vulture's looks the purest(by which I mean the one least likely to have a Sympathizer voting in it), but I don't agree strongly enough with lynching Vulture that I want to join it. The lynch I feel most likely to have a Sympathizer is probably Flamingos, because I don't trust Gecko, Kangaroo, or Crocodile. I do lean village on Zebra and Tuatara, but Tuatara is obviously voting for self preservation. I also feel the Tuatara lynch probably has a Sympathizer in it, as I kind of think the "PM trust" group might have a Sympathizer in it and even if it doesn't, I don't have village reads on Scorpion, Vulture, or Toucan really. The Beagle lynch is unclear, because I don't have a read on Heron or Weasel. Information wise, I think lynching Beagle/Flamingo or Tuatara would be the most helpful, so we can move on from them. The trust group suspects Tuatara, and multiple players have stated suspicion of Beagle/Flamingo and the PM stuff. Only problem with lynching one of Beagle or Flamingo is that I view them as either villager/villager or elim/villager, and right now I'm of the opinion that Beagle is more likely to be an elim than Flamingo and I doubt we can move the lynch over to Beagle this late. I don't see their interactions as elim/elim, because they're collaborating too openly. I'm leaning elim more on Beagle than Flamingo mostly just based on gut honestly. And now Mouse just voted Beagle. I was considering voting Tuatara, because I could be wrong about them and I didn't think a Beagle lynch was possible, but I guess I'll give it a shot now that Mouse has added their vote. Beagle. Sorry, I know I said I don't like to vote only because of gut, but it's too late to dive into your posts and give analysis. Now Axolotl ninja'd me while I waver...argh. I'm just not sure about any of these lynches. Whatever, my vote's on Beagle. I think I'm secretly hoping Tuatara is lynched and flips elim though, so I can stop worrying about Beagle.

Both are accurate assessments, considering I'm a pinch hitter. I wasn't certain if I was supposed to keep quiet about that, so I didn't mention it at the time, but now that I know it's fine to reveal that, there you go. I want to keep a consistent level of activity, so even though I can't promise large posts every Cycle, things should actually start getting easier now that I'm caught up on things and am getting familiar with who's who. Stolen Updated Vote CountTuatara : Dragonfly, Beagle, Vulture, Scorpion, Elephant (5)Vulture : Penguin, Flamingo, Albatross(3)Beagle : Kangaroo, Tuatara (2)Ostrich : Zebra (1) The lynch on Vulture feels a little out of the blue, but I'm not sure if I'm against it, considering my earlier defences of Tuatara. In terms of which is the more useful lynch, I'd say killing a Sympathizer Vulture is more helpful than a Sympathizer Tuatara, but at the same time a dead village Vulture is more harmful than a dead village Tuatara. Sorry Tuatara, no offence, it's just that Vulture has been posting more content. Anyways, I'm being very indecisive, and can't seem to collect my thoughts very well at the moment, so I might sign off for now and take a break. I wouldn't say we necessarily have to lynch one of these 2 candidates, but as I said, I don't have a clear enough head to offer an alternative. To try and keep tabs on lurkers, here's a list of players I feel have faded into the background this Cycle - Azure Mouse, Emerald Falcon, Indigo Weasel, Muave Crocodile, Salmon Meerkat, and Taupe Gecko. Falcon might not quite count as a lurker, since they're a pinch hitter, but I think they've had time to look things over enough to give us some surface thoughts at least. If someone on this list explained that they'd be busy this Turn, my apologies.

We can only hope a code or some kind of system was set up before PM's went down if that's the case. I'm not very suspicious of them. I was just responding to Beagle's post last night where he said he was suspicious of Rhino, so I did some research to see how I felt about Rhino to compare against Beagle's stance. Still, Rhino does need to post more.

A hope all villagers should have! I don't agree with the mounting suspicion on Tuatara however. Strange as it may sound, I don't agree with Tuatara's logic for their vote on Beagle either, but it feels more like a very defensive villager than a Sympathizer. I maybe should be ignored though, as Sage Kangaroo voted on Beagle and not Salmon Meerkat. Until I put forward a decent accusation, I think I should remove my vote. One more thing to add. I did a quick review of Plum Rhinoceros, and they really only talked about Flamingo and Dragonfly, and their brief bickering last Cycle, which eventually led to Rhino voting on Flamingo. It's hard to say with such a limited sample size, but I could see them being a Sympathizer. @Plum Rhinoceros, I saw you were around not that long ago, but you haven't posted this Turn.

Um, sorry then, I must have been confused. I'll put the blame on all the animal names instead of my faulty mind. Thanks to Zebra and Dragonfly for responding to my request. I like to get others thoughts on my top suspects so I can have a fresh opinion to munch on. Penguin has seemed more and more like a villager to me lately. I'm not sure I agree with the suspicion on Vulture, but it is good to draw attention to players who haven't received very much yet, and Vulture hasn't gotten a lot I don't think. Here is a vote count. Personally, I think I would lynch Ostrich, Heron, Tuatara, Vulture, then Beagle, if those were the only choices. In order from who I'd lynch first or last in that scenario. I'm beginning to think that Tuatara is more just a villager in the dark than a Sympathizer. Similarly, I worry that Ostrich is the same, because they don't seem to care at all about appearances. Mostly posting one line thoughts, with votes that are largely left unexplained, or are only for the sake of causing a tie. It's confusing to me. It's really too bad PM's are down, otherwise I would PM both of these players to try and figure them out. Mint Heron, I don't have any read on, and now they're a pinch hitter, so that just multiplies my zero read on them. I trust Beagle the most out of those five, and Vulture does sound like a clever person in general, so I will be extra wary of them unless they have a big impact for the village. And now this brings me to my own vote. Staying consistent with what I said earlier, if I'm not going to vote on Tuatara or Ostrich, my other options are Chameleon and Meerkat. Of course, I don't have to vote on either of them if I feel a better case has been made for someone else, but I haven't seen anything like that yet. My gut is telling me to vote Meerkat, and being a Gorilla, I have quite an impressive gut, so I'll go with that. I will attempt to review and post analysis on both Chameleon and Meerkat before the day is over. As I like to give at least some reason to my votes, I believe Meerkat is voting on a villager, Beagle, right now and the reasons for the vote sound like it could be them trying to take advantage of the Sympathizers kills to cast suspicion on the most active players. Possible reason for the Sympathizers to kill inactive villagers? Try to make us think that there must be Sympathizers among the more active members, so they're killing inactives to more easily hide? I will also urge everyone to put a vote somewhere earlier rather than later, so that 1. if we have a late lynch again, we'll have many different options to choose from, giving us a better shot at catching a Sympathizer, and 2. you have a chance to pick your most suspicious suspect for your vote, instead of only being able to vote for a few players because voting anywhere else wouldn't get anything done.

I wanted to join the PM empire. Now I'm sad. I think I agree with you about the Sympathizers hiding in the activity fringe, so I will do my best to get out of that area by posting more! Cream Tuatara is in that area, and I sort of agree with the suspicion on them, but them voting on Opal Lion right after they died has me wondering. Because it seems like Sympathizers would pay more attention than that. It's also pretty clear bandwagoning, since Opal Lion was getting a lot of attention during the Night, which seems too obvious to come from an eliminator. I believe Sunburst Toucan defended Meerkat. An interesting combination, since both of them have garnered some suspicion. Would Toucan be willing to defend a teammate if they're both under suspicion though? Is there anyone else you consider suspicious then? The more opinions you give, the better we can understand your point of view. Looking back at Beagle's post of reads, I find myself mostly agreeing with it. First 11 players I agree with basically completely. Since Beagle trusts Albatross because of PM's, I find it hard to agree with. @Oxblood Beagle, what did happen in the bird PM? If it's sensitive information, I can understand some trust from sharing that with you, but otherwise I'm not sure I follow why you'd trust them for that. I think I should review Plum Rhinoceros, since Beagle puts them as stronger elim. Shouldn't take long, since they haven't posted a lot. I thought Quartz Zebra's big summary post was good, and seemed like a villager thing to do. Beagle has me as slightly village, which is slightly kind of them, haha. In response to @Chartreuse Penguin, it is possible that the Sympathizers have a Skybreaker, but we shouldn't discount the possibility that the Sympathizers just haven't used their Willshapers or Bondsmiths yet because they haven't had good reason to. I like your ideas about being wary of evil Skybreakers, and also how village Skybreakers should sacrifice themselves later on to confirm their scans and alignment. Makes me lean village for you, at least some. I want to vote soon, but I need to review first. These are the players I'm considering voting for: Cream Tuatara, Fuschia Ostrich, Pearl Chameleon, and Salmon Meerkat. If others could offer their thoughts on these players, I'd very much appreciate it.

You mentioned earlier that you wouldn't vote unless something big happened. That lynch train was pretty big I'd say. So if this was a time to vote, who would you pick? I've just been catching up on things, so hopefully I'll be active from now on. I had thoughts on many different things while reading back but they've mostly disappeared now. Sorry. I did try to mark a couple things down though. I had conflicting thoughts on Gecko, I was suspicious of Axolotl some until their most recent posts, which I don't think would be faked. Sunburst Toucan has been in that range of being active but not really in the spotlight that seems like a good place for a Sympathizer, but I don't really suspect them very much. I agree with Azure Mouse on most of their posts so they seem innocent. Fuschia Ostrich gave me some weird vibes, but I'm starting to think it's because of their way of posting short lines, so maybe that's just their style and not something suspicious. I think Beagle, Flamingo, and Ivory are innocent villagers, but that they could be very clever Sympathizers(not all of them, although that would be crazy). Beagle is the only person to send me any messages, so that seems like something a villager would do. Or a very clever Sympathizer. I was unsure about Albatross from the first day, but their posts recently have me second guessing that first read. One weird thing is that they voted to prevent a wagon on Coral Swan on the first lynch but then they helped a wagon on Swan this last lynch. I would like to hear more about that. For some reason Mauve Crocodile seems trustworthy a little. Pearl Chameleon is blending in so good I don't know what to think. The.....hmmm, not sure what to call it. Rebuke? ....of Beagle for the lynch on Swan and then acceptance of the explanation seems like buddying up to Beagle to make themselves trusted. Salmon Meerkat is a little suspicious, but not a lot. I need to review Sapphire Elephant, cause they seemed suspicious when I was reading through. Scarlet Octopus posted a big post on Sage kangaroo on the first day, which could draw attention to them. Doesn't feel like something a Sympathizer would do. That's all my notes say. Hopefully that helps people understand my points of view. I tried not to just copy other people, but that's impossible to avoid completely because I'm human like all of you.........close enough at least. If anyone wants to ask me questions, I'll try to answer.

looks like croc is back so Mauve Crocodile

Good thing the harambe meme is long dead or I would worry about a D1 lynch. I'll vote Mauve Crocodile for being number 13