Quartz Zebra

I prefer to say I have intRuinsive thoughts! Side effects may include the desire to spill blood at night. I'd also shoot a villager N1 as an e!CS! It's objectively better for the elims to keep the CS alive, if you map out the death progression! It shaves an entire cycle off the game, which I imagine they need! The cost is you're allowing a villagey villager to make it that far, reducing the POE pool you have to get mixes from! Edit: And just kill one more elim and I'll be screwed by action economy since I assume I can't submit two kills at once!

Hm! You should negotiate. Only do it if they spike themselves. That's a bad idea! I'll just say if y'all vote off the person who voted an elim and was voted on by two D1 without checking the more obvious answers first, I'll call you crazy! Ostrich I think knew Flamingo was a Tineye, so they knew to take that shot! Correct me if I'm wrong! And the voting record is questionable! And they tried to sus me earlier today, which I read as keeping their options open!

I saw a great ad recently that said '12 million eyes will be watching this game', which I assume was a clever copywriter's way of exaggerating 6 million expected viewers! That's off topic. You're supposed to be killing people. I'm not doing Ele , although the readlist thing Ig mentioned is interesting! It'd mean three elims were inactives, which would be startling! Filter dodger Croc makes more sense than that, by virtue of refusing to die easily! I like the Penguin shot because it has an obvious pair (Ostrich)! If it's wrong, then we can smash the panic button and do unintuitive exes!

I'm serious, testing the validity of the Smoker claim exposes your role for no reason, so it's a villagey act! Which is more likely, that it's a balanced 3:1 ratio of village to elim smokers, or that the GMs thought it'd be funny to make every Smoker in the game village! There's still time to shoot every Smoker, just for tradition's sake.

I'd appreciate if you would! In part because I think somebody is secretly an e!Mistborn! We had one, why don't they get one! I can't keep people straight when they change their pfp, much less names and accounts.

You can add Cham thug! The Smokers helped versus the Seeker too! inb4 Penguin is the vote manip you trust

Pragmatically, I will need to shoot you the Night after this one! If we've made it to then without an elim flip, the right play is to get rid of the vote manip! That's the spirit! You'll have to fight their mom then! I just can't get over the stacked elim votes on Iguana from D1! Unless the plan was for Tuatara to Riot off and make it less close! Do we know who removed the vote from Meerkat D1! I've been village reading that test of their role, so come take credit!

Villager? Yeah! What if we killed them just to be sure...

m8! This isn't a situation of dead thread where no one is posting. Maybe people aren't seriously examining your arguments, and that sucks. But it's possible that you're not going to get a resolution about Penguin until five IRL days from now. Or even eight. We can afford two mixes before hitting an elim without costing us the game, my CS shots included. You're allowed to self vote in protest. But if your impatience means you're willing to make other people uncomfortable, you need to take a walk. Or talk to the IM about where the line is, because it's hard to check people under fog of war. This isn't a personal attack on you or your ideas, I'm just trying to keep this game civil.

Meta side note, there's two components to the game: solving and cooperation! If you think you've achieved the first part, it's time to focus on the second! Cooperation requires communication with people in a way that convinces them! Aka not absolutism. And it might require compromise! And as Mouse would tell you, it might require being mad at everyone for not understanding what you understand. But you should do that in your GM PM, not in thread. Right now, people are pushing their personal agendas based on their differences in information and perspective! And some are acting in bad faith because they have to as elims! It is unfair to the elims to react to their efforts with excessive emotion! And since you don't know for certain who the elims are, you should give everyone some grace! In other words, solving the game is half the battle. Achieving your desired outcome, in a way that is fair to everyone, under difficult circumstances, playing with people of varied levels of investment in the game, is the second half. It's important to focus on both components. Please just remember that as we move forward! We're just here for fun!

^ I'm back to 75/25! I think you should look at someone else just to demonstrate to yourself you're not tunneling, Cham, (ISO Beagle maybe and see if you decide they too are evil) but in the meantime, I'll buy what you're selling! he's pocketing you, kill him now!

That reminds me, if we theorize poor PM presence by the elims, Lion's comment about not having PM info + NKing to close PMs looks sus! Very original. I don't know the source of any vote manip so far, for what it's worth! Upon rereading D1 EOD, I see what you mean! Ostrich bails Penguin out, but I can easily imagine the two low active elims not being on near rollover the help, with votes or vote manip! I'll stand by my guess that with the margins so tight that round, they wouldn't do a triple distancing play though, meaning V!Ig!

Is this a Rioter? What're everyone's thoughts on vote manip claiming! I wouldn't mind having a clearer picture of the ones that have occurred! Beagle's argument that e!Penguin would have been helped by vote manip / anyone else on their team is compelling! Enough that I'm back to 50/50 on Penguin, because I can still imagine a world where they didn't want to tie themselves further to them than they had to to get a tie! That reminds me, if we theorize poor PM presence by the elims, Penguin's comment about not having separate trust groups and inviting getting in touch with them + NKing to close PMs looks sus!

It was said the Night after they almost got voted off, or late in that round! As for the edits, look at the colored VCs Lion posted! You voted Tua, and Tua and Dingo voted you! Only reasonable options are 1. V!penguin so you took the opportunity under no pressure to distance, 2. E!penguin with V!iguana, 3. V!iguana because why would 3 elims vote for elims! Distancing is fun though. I don't see anyone else defending Penguin by proxy today! Plus, the D1 Ivory Dragonfly CW to Penguin is Vulture, Penguin, Ostrich! I'd forgetten they pushed Vulture over Heron! Possible they were a writeoff to distance from, but I should stick to the more intuitive reads for now and clear them! So I'll call into question the loyalty of Beagle, who voted Heron and has otherwise been sidetraining!

I'll return to my observation that Penguin said "from my POV it's V-V" and I don't think that's a very villagery thing to say! If I don't mention people it's because they don't exist to me! Ele stopped moving so my T Rex brain can't see them! Iguana, you said not to shoot Scorp, which is good, but your pick was Alb! Given your position as the deciding vote that put Heron over Vulture, at the very last moment, I see where this is coming from! Checking the Vulture CW makes absolute sense! Apparently there's still work to be done when it comes to solving. Edit: But D1 two elims voted on the and I have the opposite take as Lion on that one! Seems villagey! Double edit: Penguin can't be e-e with Iguana because e!Iguana muddled around distancing while Penguin was up for death! I can see Iguana setting up a massive distancing scenario, but they get the benefit of the doubt for at least a round for the way that VC looks!

Just as an aside, the pressure should be off for most of us now! My personal goal is to have a perfect record from here on out, which will mean challenging everyone to some extent! But even if we're wrong on a few exes, we can pretty much brute force our way to victory! So there's no need to go over board with the interrogation of anyone (please and thank you)! Boo. I was expecting more chaos from the end of the world. Scorp wholeheartedly endorsed killing Vulture in my PM! But they also said they couldn't go through with it yesterday and only voted them when they were in a 5:3 lead! They're like fifth on my list, but they're on my list! Probably doing Penguin, Ostrich, Croc, Beagle, Lion, Scorp!

Would I peel off a thug life! Maybe! Would I shoot a teammate about to be filter killed anyway! Maybe! Would I forgo killing three villagers in exchange for murdering an active teammate who was a thug! Maybe. I'm not that crazy!

I claimed to a group PM! My view of coinshots is that they can actively hurt the village by widdling down our numbers too quickly! Often times you reevaluate someone after a few cycles and decide they're village after all, but if you shot them already it's too late! I considered shooting Heron, but I thought they would be exed so I'd have that matter resolved for me another way! Then I hit a thug and was comparing Cham and Vulture and the former seemed much scummier with their narrow options for who to vote! But I wanted a flip so I voted to flip Heron rather than get no info tapping Cham! If Vulture flipped village, I was going to pivot to Cham! But people were more willing to kill Vulture, so I figured I'd resolve that for us all tonight! The best case scenario left us with an intact thug, so it made more sense, even if my reads of the two of them were muddy! As for why I went after Vulture N2, I disliked the vagueness of their reads list, and wanted to go after voters on the main wagons D1! They seemed unremarkable, so I wasn't village reading them anyway! And now you're invincible. The elims need me to shoot villagers on accident, so I should be immune to the NK! Nice!

Two elims! You didn't read anything past Vulture, did you? We're doing so well!! Tbf the Dingo account is cursed to inactivity so that was to be expected! Penguin

I messed up at reading! Red text will do that to you. Anyway, I'm the Coinshot! Scorp and Iguana knew and didn't murder me, so good on them! Why'd you shoot Vulture? I'm a genius, next question!

THANK YOU! Your blood pressure is far too high right now.

Or weaken it, depending how you see it. Cool!

You messed up, huh. Idek anymore! I'm still annoyed everyone waited until the last second to decide on an exe, but I can't now so huzzah! Note for future reread, hypothesis is either e!Vulture defense or elims trying to avoid what they knew was a bad wagon by splintering! Someone tell us what Dingo posted and if that amounts to anything!

With all due respect, the time to make your case for someone pulled out of hat was yesterday! Isn't this the best time to pressure people? Technically, yes! But practically speaking, the most you'll achieve is giving people false hope or vote splitting! For my own sanity, I'm going to join Beagle on the walking paths! Good luck!

Yes, it's not the people I'm actively pushing for the death of! Or is it? No, it's not! Anyway, even rhetorical questions can come off as abrasive in this context! My vote is on Heron! If it comes down to Cham or someone else, I'll vote Cham! If we're right, we're right, and if we're wrong, we're wrong! Lock in your votes and let's reevaluate this tomorrow! Sorry to whoever dies, that's how POE and fog of war works! If you feel like you're not doing your job if you don't draw blood from a stone at EOD, it's okay to just let whatever happens happen! Your team won't blame you!