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Since no one is saying anything, I thought I'd ask everyone if their faction is planning on winning this turn? And if so, do you have any expendable actions that you could lend to either my faction or another that is attempting to also join in on the win? -
Sorry for the double post, but I feel this is significantly different, and sufficiently separated in time to allow it. But I did verify that the possibility of us winning within the next cycle that I mentioned was not one of the imminent wincon completions mentioned in the write-up, so that means that currently the only faction we know of for sure, is that of GLaDos, and my faction is now out of the running for possible factions that we need to really really worry about, and at this rate, it may be the last cycle of the game, unless the other faction want's to speak up?
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Also, chartreuse Penguin
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There are a few things I want to address. The first thing is the current vote count, it appears to be: Cream Tuatara(5): Chartreuse Penguin, Saffron Iguana, Quartz Zebra, Magenta Albatross, Azuree Mouse Chartreuse penguin(1): Cream Tuatara Now, I actually have no problem with this, because as I suggested earlier, I am currently protected with an extra life. The life was intended to be used because Dominion was supposed to redirect the kill/shatter back to me. (Note that I am still not outright claiming, I am just stating what everyone else believes to be the case) So if you all want to successfully lynch someone, you had better choose a different target. I don't know if that would be helpful to any particular team's Wincon if someone dies or survives though. Speaking of wincons, that brings me to my second point There are supposedly two teams that are within a cycle of winning. After running some crazy numbers, and assuming the 'Best Case Scenario' in many situations. (Or worst case scenario based on how you look at it) I was able to find out that my faction could possibly be one of the two factions that can win by the end of this cycle. But that would involve some fairly unlikely scenarios with actions occurring in just the right way from several of the other factions. We do want to see as many people win this game as possible, so we will be holding off on at least one of the actions that would be required by our faction, and will ask that not all of the returned sacrifice themselves tonight. I do not know if any of the actions we perform will help the other faction towards their wincon, but one possibility that was discussed was the possibility of shattering 3 shards being the wincon of the original holders of Odium. So we will not be shattering anyone tonight, just so we don't accidentally hit a shard. (I think that's the plan. Not 100% sure) Also, I want to note that due to the extreme unlikeliness of our completing our wincon, some members of our faction believe that we could have been missed in calculating who is able to win. We have not been able to verify this though. We will still be working toward our wincon, which I am not quite ready to share with the thread, but we will ensure that it can't be met by the end of this cycle, and most likely wont do complete it during the next day turn, beyond that is too far away for me to tell. Lastly, I've risked a great deal putting this out in the thread, and we want to work with others to help them complete their win conditions, so we would appreciate if we weren't targeted as a result of this, because we don't want to be seen as a threat. I believe that through hard work, we can work together to get at least 60%, if not more of us to win this game, and have an end to this shard war. This can be the war to end all wars.
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Speaking of ambition, I've got a message from them, which is actually from the dead doc, specifically indigo weasel. I'm not going to quote directly into the thread because I'm not sure of the rules regarding that in this game. The fifth faction is the only faction that indigo doesnt have an idea of the wincon of, but he does believe that's the faction that's returning people. Ambition wants to add on that he believes that it's possible that they havent lost any members yet. my thoughts now If they do need a returned from each faction, they need us to lynch them. Perhaps that's why mouse was trying to get us to lynch them? Back to messages from the cognitive realm. Elephant believes that the best chance we have against that faction is to kill as many of these Returned as possible. My thoughts are if we focus all our efforts on just that one faction, then we might just let the other faction walk into victory, which isn't that great of an idea.
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What if they have a wincon that is something like "your faction plus all living Returned players must outnumber every other faction" or I still think a possibility is to have 6 living returned at one time. Or something like that.
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This has been a production of Two Pages of Nothing. please come back next week for its sequel The Dead Docs of Doom. Anyway, I see many people suggesting that this is the last cycle, bit it doesnt necessarily have to be. All we have to do is stop the progress of those factions, one way to likely do this is by lynching a returned.
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I personally did not know in advance that they were a vessel, and they did not volunteer, but we also did not expect to not be redirected, and I personally expected them to survive. And honestly, I didn't expect anyone in particular to volunteer to be targeted. Anyway, my faction does not believe that we are within one cycle of meeting our wincon, which means that there are other, more threatening factions out there than mine right now. Not having been protected by Devotion does not mean that Odium wasn't protected. There are almost certainly people in their faction that had feruchemical charges. It seems like this cycle would be a waste to target Odium with the lynch, because they likely have at least 1 feruchemical charge there to save them. Especially since they were expecting to be targeted by their own attack. Also, it's possible that the group that is attempting to make returned might just need to have a certain amount of Returned alive, so might I suggest that if you are a returned, it might be a good time to sacrifice yourself, and head to the spiritual realm. If not, that's where I'm leaning with my lynch vote, is for a returned. Chartreuse Penguin nothing against you or your analyses, but you are a returned, and quite obviously(due to your spite of me) not of my faction, and because you are a returned, I believe that you are threatening/aiding in the wincon of another faction
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So that means by the end of the night turn, right? If so, I think that this should be the more pressing issue than my lynch.(which I will address later in this post.) So if the remaining factions want to have a chance at also winning, then I shouldn't be the focus of the lynch. Neat! Anyway, looking at my eminent lynch. Honestly, I would be voting for me too, if I weren't me, as it seems undeniable that I am odium, and I have lied. Whether or not that is true, the evidence sure seems to be stacked that way. But we already discussed the plan to shatter odium by redirecting that bbn player back to themselves. So yes, Odium attacked sapphire, but they were under the impression that that attack would be redirected back on themselves. That means we need to find out if dominion did what they were supposed to do. The fault may lie upon them, unless for some reason shards can't attack themselves even through a redirect. @Sapphire Elephant, on behalf of my faction, I am sorry that you were killed, as I honestly didn't suspect it.
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Well, everyone seems to want to be quiet now, maybe, I should do a quick RP --- Enterta did not know where he was. Well, He knew that he was on a planet called Scadrial, and he had visited it before, once. But he knew nothing about it, and when walking around, he felt lost. Currently, he walked the streets of a large city. He didn't even know the name of it, and his asthma was acting up here. The air quality always seemed unhealthy at best. He wondered if he could find an inhaler, or someone who could help him to breath a bit better. Almost as if by divine design, he turned a corner, and there was a feruchemy outlet. Knowing Feruchemy to be of of the main sources of investiture on Scadrial, Enterta decided it couldn't be that bad to enter. Little did he know how many different types of investiture there were. Back where he was from there was only one type of investiture. Awakening. And it sometimes seemed a dark art, meant for the wicked, so Enterta chose not to indulge much in it, despite being of the second heightening. \ Perfect, Enterta thought. (Unsealed/unkeyed)Not sure which Cadmium. If Only I can find a spot of clear air, I can fill this with clean breath, and I can go around without triggering my asthma.
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I will vote for mouse, mostly out of self preservation. I feel like I've lost most of my persuasiveness, so I will not add anything else at this time.
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Also, for @Chartreuse Penguin, assuming I were to have odium, if I were to peacefully return odium, would you let me live? I can tell you my faction is still attempting to get their wincon, but we are no where near as close as Croc claims mouse and albatross are.
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I will definitely need to explain some humor behind this post after the game ends.
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Since many people seem convinced that I actually am odium, and some have guessed that I am working with toucan, and they've just been deceiving you this whole time, (I will neither confirm or deny either one of these theories) and I am being put up for thel lynch, I've got a few things to say. First, it is very likely that I do know where Odium is, whether its with me or not. Second, Or, I can get lynched, and have the current holder pass it to a random person that I know isn't in your faction, therefore making you and your faction start all over at the beginning at relocating. (Out of spite and nothing else. Don't put it past me) Or I can have the current holder pass it back to your faction peacefully, without you lynching me, you leave us alone, and we go on our way, possibly with a weak alliance down the road. (note:I have not yet discussed this option with my faction, though I believe they will disapprove of that idea. Or I van have the vessel pass it to either a person in my faction or an allied faction with the purpose of taking you out first, then the remaining people that are in your faction as you take out us. Dont think that was don't have at least a decent idea of who is in your faction. Mutual Assured Destruction. MAD. Or I can promise not to have the vessel kill any more people, your faction can make contact with me and my faction, and we will use odium together for purposes that satisfy bot of our needs, including the needs of our and your allies factions. Effectively stopping the killing spree, because it would become harder and harder to use odium for a while. (Note also not discussed yet with my faction, though they'd be slightly more approving of this idea. Essentially, if you're going to try to extort me and my faction, you can expect the same in return. Lack of dialogue will likely result in either option 1 or 3, neither of which would he very beneficial for either of our factions or anyone caught in the crosshairs. Also to everyone out there. Please remember that these views do not necessarily reflect the views if my faction. If after discussing with my faction we come to what we believe is a more peaceable solution, I will be the messenger for my faction, and inform you all. I do not want to make enemies with anyone at this point, nor have I at any point. I know some of what I have said sounds threatening but underneath my hard spike exterior is a soft teddy bear.
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Meaning you were a forger? and you tried to redirect someone's vote?
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Alternatively, if you sleeping is what finally makes the thread start going, you should fall asleep right now, and wake up at 8:30 PM at the end of the next day cycle, that way there is no crazy things happening the last few hours, and you still have plenty of time to read the thread, find out what happened, and place your own action.
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Also, could we get a vote count?
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So here's what I'm thinking. We all seem to know a decent amount of information about who has been working with odium. My faction was involved in the vote to protect axolotl, yes. I knew axolotl was hoid, yes. I am also aware that the reason the vote went to Opal was so that Odium could be stolen. But I do not know the current location of Odium. I know my faction was working with at least one other faction, but I'm honestly not sure who is in that faction. Currently the biggest threat to my faction are people I know nothing though, not the ones I know more about. For that reason, for now I will leave my vote where it is, but If I need to defend myself later, I will try moving it.
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Whoa! I havent been trying to oppose you! I'll do whatever I can to help you as long as it doesn't harm my faction. And if you could present that evidence, that would be great. You don't need to disclose how you got it, but what the evidence would be great, so I can address it, because I am doubting its accuracy.
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I actually have a theory about that silence. I suspect that the axolotl lynch brought out the most vocal thoughts in a attempt to save or kill axolotl, but now everyone's plans are either ruined, so they've retreated to their docs to regroup, or they're afraid of the group that attempted to help axolotl, and have retreated to their docs how to survive or retaliate after the passing of gecko or one of their other teammates that have died.
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All these Joe lynches are cool and all, but I do not like that I am currently tied for a lynch just because I'm in a biology class, so could we have some actual discussion. Albatross seems to have the most useful post so far, and I tend to agree with his arguments (except for the part about about me) so until further discussion, I will vote for ivory dragonfly, azure mouse or hyena(whose color I do not remember at this time.) sage kangaroo
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It's only an introductory level class! Anyway, if were using the same level of logic you've used, I vote for sage kangaroo because they can hide secrets in their pouch. That is untrustworthy.
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@Seonid Are you a bearded man who wears flip flops with Slacks and a button up shirt to work?
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It's funny how all this is relating almost perfectly to my Biology class. Literally yesterday we were talking about arachnids, and other arthropods. When we were discussing what axolotls were, that was within a week of when we talked about amphibians. And right before then, we talked about reptiles, and how tuatara's aren't lizards.
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Allow me to offer my reptilian services in this quest!
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