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I am concerned. But,given the choice to never have dragonsteel and mistborn 4 see the light, but to have good adaptations, and having full cosmere, but crappy or mediocre adaptations or no adaptations, i'd take the first. We already have dozens of cosmere books. We don't have any good cosmere tv show, and in fact we have very few good fantasy shows at all
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i only have the third book in electronic form. but i checked the first appearance of the kitsen in book two, and it says 15. so it seems it's book 3 that got it wrong.
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I'm rereading the whole saga right now, and i see a discrepancy. in book 2 and 3, kitsen are consistently described as 25 centimeters tall in book 4, they are consistently described instead as 15 centimeters tall which one is correct? how did such a discrepancy made it past the editors and beta readers anyway?
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[Discuss] Jasnah: An analysis of a monster
king of nowhere replied to Frustration's topic in Stormlight Archive
I haven't read all the four pages, that's a lot, but from what I skimmed I saw nobody point out a few things that paint jasnah in a better light. first, about seeing others as tools. remember in the first book, when shallan tries repeatedly to become her ward and is repeatedly turned down? when did shallan succeed? "i am uneducated through no fault of my own. please help me get an education" and after jasnah discovers she stole the soulcaster, what gets her to mellow? "I made a mistake. i will make others. i need your guidance" jasnah doesn't care about shallan the social climber. she doesn't care about using her for some schemes. what persuades jasnah, both time, is a plea for help from a person in need. Jasnah cares about helping others. deeply. some of her actions may be off, but i never saw her entertain any selfish thought. and what she did with her political power? she freed slaves. she democratized the government. she turned the highprinces from warring warlord into state functionaries. she always had the good of the people in mind. that fact cannot be denied. as for her acting like she's everyone's intellectual superior, everything in the story seem to point that she actually is. no mortal could match her wit, except taravangian in his best days. how much being smarter than those around you gives you a right to boss over them is debatable, but i linked it to a weaker form of omniscent morality license: in a fantasy story with prophecies, people can be forgiven for doing terrible things because they knew for certain all the consequences and knew it was the best outcome. jasnah doesn't know all the consequences as she's not omniscent, but she does know better than anyone else, which gives her some leeway. I will not discuss the main point about plotting murders of your rivals because it's been done a lot. I'll only add my bit here, saying that in an environment filled with the likes of sadeas, planning countermeasures in case your allies betray you is not cruel, it's basic survival instinct. she didn't carry out any of those assassinations that i'm aware of. -
The Alloy of Law: Question About the Vanisher's Robberies
king of nowhere replied to Whittler's topic in Mistborn
no need to be so cynical. it is often the case that without proof of the worst happening, public opinion - or at least the media and the government spokespeople - must assume the worst didn't happen. just like the hostages are just disappeared, so are the guards -
The Alloy of Law: Question About the Vanisher's Robberies
king of nowhere replied to Whittler's topic in Mistborn
if the guards inside simply disappeared, it's possible they were not counted as "being hurt" because their wereabouts were still unknown. nobody was hurt as far as the public knew. just in the same way that the hostages were disappeared -
The Alloy of Law: Question About the Vanisher's Robberies
king of nowhere replied to Whittler's topic in Mistborn
to my knowledge, we don't have explanations. but i can guess that maybe the locked car was locked and the guards were on adjacent wagons. maybe the vanishers picked their targets specifically based on which trains wouldn't have guards actually inside the locked wagon - and they also needed to have an actual replica of the wagon -
yes, i am well aware of that, but here we're discussing specifically their use for war on nalthis. vasher didn't kill shashara because she wanted to use nightblood to kill highly invested beings. vasher probably didn't even knew what highly invested beings were at the time. no, vasher did kill shashara because she wanted to give the secret of nightblood to the armies. besides, all that stuff under WaT spoiler wasn't possible at the time of warbreaker, and vasher had no idea it would be possible - in fact, both the book and annotations show he has a blind spot in that regard, thinking nightblood can't learn. so yes, take szeth or kaladin or someone like that, give them nightblood, they could absolutely turn a war on nalthis in the time of the book. but that's completely irrelevant for vasher's reasoning. if someone had the ability to mass produce weapons that cost 1000 breath to make, they'd be a serious threat simply because of how many breath they'd have. sure, with modern technology and investiture sources you can mass produce that. but on nalthis during the time of the five scholars? no chance. you can't mass produce something that expensive because you can't lower cost.
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the whole tragedy between denth and vasher started when she made nightblood and wanted to make more. vasher decided the sword is too destructive to use, and killed her. my question is, is nightblood really a good weapon? because what i know of weapons says, not at all. of course, it's very effective. but the cost is ludicrous. remember, every breath is one lifless. nightblood costs 1000 breath. additionally, nightblood drains breath from the user, at a pretty fast rate of a breath every few seconds. So, let's say you need 1000 breath to make a copy of nightblood, and another 1000 for someone to use it. with that much breath, you could make 2000 lifeless. what's more useful? my money is the lifeless getting a lucky hit well before the guy with nightblood can kill all of them. nightblood is, in the best case, the equivalent of hypersonic missiles: they have some niche use, but they are too rare and expensive to have a major impact on the war. in the worst case, it's the equivalent of the yamato or the p-1000 ratte: ludicrously expensive superweapons that end up actually crippling your war effort before either being scrapped for their sheer impracticality, or dealing way too little damage to justify their cost before being overwhelmed by numbers. so, vasher overreacted. shashara sharing the construction of nightblood with the armies wouldn't have affected the war much, there was no need to kill her. the one-breath command for the creation of lifless, that one is the real breakthrough. the one thing nightblood actually does well is to counter kalad's phantoms: those things each cost as much as 50 regular lifeless, but they pay themselves by being virtually impervious to regular weapons. but to nightblood, it doesn't matter. 2000 breath spent on a nightblood clone may actually beat 2000 breath spent on kalad's phantoms. though killing 40 without getting hit is still not easy.
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What happened to Sanderson's Apple TV YouTube event?
king of nowhere replied to bedtime's topic in General Brandon Discussion
and yet, we got no announcement whatsoever, even a week later. it's just weird. if he could not disclose any more because of the contract, he could have just made this simple statement to cancel the event. if it was some organizational issue, he could have just sent a message to reassure that the even will happen eventually. i've never seen brandon postpone a live stream and then for over a week make no communication whatsoever, to the point that we don't even know it will be eventually held or not -
Cosmere Adaptation Announcement
king of nowhere replied to Treamayne's topic in General Brandon Discussion
in theory, yes. but you are assuming that those allomantic illegitimate children would be loial to your house. instead of, i don't know, plotting to overthrow you. it would carry its own risks -
Cosmere Adaptation Announcement
king of nowhere replied to Treamayne's topic in General Brandon Discussion
he could at least say he can't say more because of a non disclosure agreement. so i'd stop waiting for news -
Cosmere Adaptation Announcement
king of nowhere replied to Treamayne's topic in General Brandon Discussion
meanwhile, brandon was supposed to go live to discuss it. that stream was postponed. anyone knows when it will be held? speculation is well and good, but i'd rather hear more from brandon himself. -
Cosmere Adaptation Announcement
king of nowhere replied to Treamayne's topic in General Brandon Discussion
ok, you do need the final empire to be evil for kelsier to work. my point is that you do not need to be needlessly graphic about it. you do not need to show heads flying on screen for a full ten minutes - though that scene with kelsier saying "this is what we're fighting" would be great for a movie and i think it will be kept. just in the same way that the sexual abuse is part of what makes the lord ruler and most of the nobility so terrible, but we do not need to actually see it on screen to experience it. -
Cosmere Adaptation Announcement
king of nowhere replied to Treamayne's topic in General Brandon Discussion
yet another option, since the room was scarcely lit by a fire, would be to have siri in full frontal nudity, but with shadows covering all the relevant bits. they could easily add more shadows as a special effect. -
Cosmere Adaptation Announcement
king of nowhere replied to Treamayne's topic in General Brandon Discussion
i disagree. how many heads were chopped on a fountain has nothing to do with the quality of a book. in fact, some media arte trying too hard to take a grimdark tone thinking it's better, but it ruins all. you don't have to show blood and gore to make a good story. TFE works because it has great plot, great characters, great magic, and that's it. I'd say later books work less because the plot becomes more sprawling and the magic becomes softer - while still being used to fix all problems like it was a harder magic. -
Cosmere Adaptation Announcement
king of nowhere replied to Treamayne's topic in General Brandon Discussion
actually, i was quoting pratchett and gayman when they were asked about a possible movie adaptation of good omens: one of them said he'd believe it after watching the end credits, and the other said, not even then. anyway, even in the best case scenario we won't get anything before 2 more years, and in a more realistic case it will be 3-5. in the pessimistic case it will collapse like other deals (and in the very pessimistic case, they will make movies, they will suck, and nobody will ever try to produce cosmere again). so all the discussion on how to deal with the influx of movie fans is way premature. putting the ox in front of the cart, when you're a caveman who just discovered that new round thing you invented could revolutionize transportation. -
Cosmere Adaptation Announcement
king of nowhere replied to Treamayne's topic in General Brandon Discussion
Dune was great. Both movies. Game of thrones was good for the first half. Wheel of time wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible either. And it had great moments. Rhuidean alone was worth it. One piece was wonderful. Arcane, though not a real adaptation, was amazing. So, there have been good adaptations. Especially when creators were given freedom and the original writer was supervising, which will be the case here. Even if this ends up less than stellar, it will probably still have plenty of stuff worth salvaging. No, the only thing i'm not optimistic about is whether they will actually do it, or if the contract will collapse like all others. I'll believe this is really happening when i will be in the theater watching the end credits of the first mistborn movie. -
Who Is Smarter: Rashek or Taravangian?
king of nowhere replied to Returned's topic in Cosmere Discussion
that is a post-fact justification, and it can be applied to anything; hence it doesn't prove anything, most of all that rashek did anything smart. rashek almost destroied the world many times with his blunders, but in the end the world was saved, so it's good. and we just give him credit as "all part of his plan"? no, his plan backfired in several ways. rashek subjugated the entire world under a brutal teocracy, and no, he didn't have to do that. it didn't even advance his cause. i suppose he made it legal for noblemen to dispose of the skaa as they wanted because otherwise ruin would have found a way to use those skaa? was that all part of some great plan too? no, rashek was just a petty suprematist who applied his ideals of racial domination to the world. then, after a mere 1000 years, the first time ruin could try to rock his boat, ruin actually won. rashek held all the cards: he was functionally immortal, invincible, and firmly in charge of the whole world. ruin had no capacity to influence things at large. yet rashek let himself be beated. or, if your interpretation is correct, choose to not fight, despite knowing that the world itself was on the line. with the fall of rashek, ruin had huge armies of hemalurgic servants ready to dominate. Yeah, good job rashek! he needed all those hemalurgic servants because he could not trust human armies, because despite all his power (both personal and political), he could not make the world into anything better than the crappiest dictatorship ever with a 0% approval rating. it's not like he could have turned the world a little better, so there would be less rebellions and he wouldn't need those servants... by the way, are you really justifying that rashek prevented the invention of advanced medicine because "ruin would have found some way to use it against the world", but then completely glossing on him building up koloss armies? and the whole world was left unprepared. sure, there were the caverns. the storages. but only the kandra actually knew ruin even exhisted, and they were so secretive, they never shared this knowledge with others. oh, the inquisitors knew, as they has kwaan's plate in their stronghold. yeah, put the secret knowledge where only the mind-controlled servants of the enemy can access it. Surely this is all part of some grand plan and not a colossal blunder. as a result, vin got swiftly manipulated into releasing ruin. it's not like this was an easy accomplishment. it was literally almost impossible for ruin to get released: a bad person would take the power of the well for himself, while a good person would not release ruin. but rashek managed to serve to ruin the perfect combination needed to release him. i could go on from there. but in the end, ruin almost won, and vin found the secret just barely at the last second. actually, marsh and kelsier did. and that was preservation's plan, not rashek. still, of a continent's worth of people, there were only a few tens of thousands of survivors. and even if rashek could have kept ruin imprisoned, his enforced dark age guaranteed, by the time the other planets discovered insterstellar travel, his planet would be completely unprotected against any external threat. no, i'm not buying the "it was the only way" argument. it absolutely wasn't the only way, and anyone remotely competent could have done much, much better. unfortunately, the only person kwaan could get to stop alendi was a bigoted, ignorant, hateful packman whose only positive qualities was to have superpowers that would allow him to kill alendi, and some leadership among similarly closeminded packmen. too bad he could not use that charisma to get a better public image, so that the people would revolt less and he would not need to keep koloss armies ready for ruin to take. Rashek did well in hiding the atium - well, not great, because when it was time to burn it quickly, there was nobody who knew the secret, nor a convenient force of seers as the very existence of people with the right power to hinder ruin was a secret. preservation had to snap them himself. but ruin didn't find the atium, so rashek at least got a pass there. and he did well with the caves. ok, those were useful. none of those two things alone would have saved the world, as ruin was slowly destroying it even without atium. everything else rashek did, it was easily taken advantage by ruin, and was only useful to the heroes in ways that are very hard to justify as a grand plan. -
Who Is Smarter: Rashek or Taravangian?
king of nowhere replied to Returned's topic in Cosmere Discussion
by the results, i'd call rashek a borderline moron. aside from stuff he did while holding preservation, there is nothing brilliant in the way he conquered and ruled the final empire. his whole atium scheme was fine, but that's nothing compared to taravangian's diagram. besides, rashek got himself killed very uncerimoniously, while holding all the cards. he was immortal and invincible in any way. there was only one weakness. and he let that happen. and he knew the well was about to get filled, and he knew that ruin would try something, and still he took no precautions. he could have killed kelsier and vin easily had he used his powers fully - had he prowled the city with bronze and tin, he could have easily discovered any mistborn, and quickly found the ones that weren't nobles. but no, he was too complacent to take any step. -
this. any fantasy setting with literal gods begs the question, why don't the gods intervene directly - since they could solve the plot by snapping their fingers? brandon has to find excuses to avoid that. binding contracts among shards are the lesser evil. on the more general topic, hard magic is specifically one of the main things i like about sanderson. i've read many fantasy books that were basically "and then the protagonist wishes it really hard, and poof! magic happens". no, i don't want that kind of magic. besides, i am the kind of person who likes to ask questions and analyze, and i like a story where I can dig deeper than "it's just magic, don't ask questions".
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Why didn't Zane's atium covered lead poison Vin?
king of nowhere replied to Creation's topic in Mistborn
lead is poisonous, but a nugget of lead is mostly harmless. the thing is, the lead must be absorbed by the body to be poisonous, and a metal nugget will just pass through the stomach and intestine without being digested. lead has pretty good corrosion resistance. lead is more dangerous when it's in some finely divided forms that can be absorbed readily. like lead dust in the air, that can get into the lungs, that's very dangerous. or some lead compounds. besides, lead is more of a long term poisoning. being exposed to lead daily will cause all kind of issues. but a large ball swallowed once? you'll be fine. -
how hard can it be to remove some manacles?
king of nowhere replied to king of nowhere's topic in Cosmere Discussion
that's a small inconsistency, yes. we saw starling shrug off bullets that tore holes through a tyrannosaurus expy, a wasp should just have broken her stinger. even if her poison is strong enough to affect starling, it shouldn't have pierced the skin. that said, since those bullets had no effect, an old fashioned axe isn't either. but there are endless possibilities, because there is no such thing as indestructibility. maybe a cannon would work. maybe an industrial grade laser. maybe a shardblade. use enough power, and you will overcome those protections. which, actually, is what was happening in the book -
In the cognitive realm there is breathable air. This fact certainly arise from the fact that people rarely think about breathing, it's something they take for granted. So, in the cognitive, they can breath. But what kind of air is there, exactly? Different planets have different compositions. On Roshar there is more oxygen. On Canticle there is less pressure. And while the books, of course, don't give much exact data, I seriously doubt that most shardworlds have a pressure of exactly 1.013 bars like our planet. So, what kind of air do you find in shadesmar? I can assume, from the way the place works, that each subastral has the composition of its planet. so the rosharan shadesmar has more oxygen, and so forth. The same goes for temperature. The region corresponding to Taldain dayside is hotter and dryer than that corresponding to Roshar. but I wonder, does that mean there should be huge winds as the air tries to naturally move from higher pressures to lower ones? Do we get tornadoes when hot dry air from taldain encounters wet cold air from roshar? or do the air just stay put? And what about races that don't breathe out air, if there are any? would a planet with ammonia-breathing aliens have an ammonia atmosphere in shadesmar? Also, do atmospheric pressure change with height? or it stays constant regardless? And what about pollution? does it happen that when a planet reaches the worst stages of industrialization, their shadesmar fills with smog? could that be a way to actually locate a planet like First of the Sun, by analysing the atmosphere and figuring out when you're reaching the right region by sensing the fine particulate in the air?
