Personification

During the WTCC:
Grace: "This character is actively hunted by the government."
Ian: "Oh."
Eric: "Oh."
Alyx: "Oh."
Dalish: "Oh."

Also, this episode made me think about where all of the characters will be in the back five, and I am so excited. In my mind, Renarin and Rlain will be the power couple at the center of Urithiru's intelligence network, working together to analyze and take advantage of all of the information from Shallan and Radiant's vast spy network (yes, I want them both around; Radiant can handle the administrative side of things). Lift will be the young hotshot rebellious character who would get fired for insubordination if she weren't so good at her job (for examples of this archetype, see every single American action movie). Kaladin will have begun to seriously found and expand the study of psychiatry and therapy in Urithiru, and will spend most of his time on that, but he'll still come in to give pep talks to new Windrunners every once in a while. Most of this is unlikely, but I want it all to happen.

Of course Mraize is nice. He is, after all, a man of wealth and taste.

58 minutes ago, teknopathetic said:

I also love how the Wit's spren completely undoes the story and refuses to let Wit tell it like a storyteller, but instead Wit has to prevent it more like a set of factual statements. The fact Design has no patience for prelude or subtlety absolutely delights me. I enjoy the meta of it; like, yes Wit WE GET IT, now get to the good stuff.

#designisthebestspren

What I actually love is that in the end it strengthens the story. The way Design spoils at the beginning the fact that the dog never becomes a dragon actually adds to the story itself on top of being funny, like how in the Princess Bride the grandfather spoils the fact that Humperdink never gets killed, but the story still ends well.

1 hour ago, teknopathetic said:

"Who taught you to horde wheat like that?" asked Azure

"My game-master" wheezed Adolin

Fun fact: if you get 50,000 sheep you achieve the tenth heightening and can command the robber without army cards. It never comes into play because it is basically impossible to get there without someone scoring 10 VP.

A few things:

1. Lucy: I built the whole set!

    Ben:

2. About Mraize v. Nalan:

I disagree about Nalan fighting honorably. Nalan fights legally, but once he has established that his target has committed a crime (and he has made sure that attacking him is a capital offense basically anywhere on Roshar) he will use any tactic legally available to kill them, without caring about honor or honesty. For example, he needed to kill Gavilar, so he tipped off the enemy that technically they had legal grounds to assassinate him, thereby removing the issue. Nalan is also used to fighting criminals, and he won't be caught off-guard by his opponent fighting dirty.

3. What Adolin and Maya were doing are called Katas, not Catan, though now I have this amazing image in my head of the two of them just sitting at a table playing Settlers.

I just wanted to let you know that in WoR, Eshonai explains that they always had five leaders, but once they found nimbleform they decided to make each one represent a form because they had five forms.

So, in response to the thing about the Rhythm of Destruction, I feel like it says somewhere that that is the Odious version of the Rhythm of the Lost, so in the scene Leshwi is trying to hum to Lost.

Also, in addition to the fact that there is a dragon on Roshar, some offhand things you may not have noticed (or at least didn't seem to point out):

1. Veil remembered holding a Seon cube as baby Shallan.
2. Lift has an Aviar now.
3. Mraize totally murdered a Terris worldhopper (who used to have an aviar, apparently)
4. Hindsight mode: After Operation: Red Carpet, Shallan spent about five months as Veil (based on how I read their relationship), which ended when Helaran forced her to try to draw, at which point Shallan reappeared and talked for the first time since the incident (which is adorable).
5. Gift (son of Lunamor) is flirting with Lift, and she isn't particularly upset about it. (So, is their ship name Gift, or Lift? You decide)
6. The Sibling just chose to unbond Melishi after he captured BAM
7. The mysterious shop owner who somehow has all of the things that characters have lost.
8. We finally have a good idea of how Vasher prevented the little girl in Warbreaker from remembering her kidnapping.
9. Ishar killed Neturo-son-Valano,
10. There is no tenth pancake.

YAY!!!! RoW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I loved Lucy's reaction to remembering the Kal-Syl-Hesina dynamic. Also, I was surprised that you didn't discuss ansy of Shallan's dealings with the Ghostbloods or Sja-Anat.

By the way, is Lucy on the Shard yet?

EDIT: Oh, and will you be doing Dawnshard?

First, before I forget, on the WTCC, while he has several children, I HIGHLY doubt that Straff has ever had a "romantic" relationship.

With that out of the way, I wanted to say that when you were discussing the annotation I realized that whatever allows Returned to have kids, it must have been happening with Siri and Susebron (otherwise, what would be the point of it all), meaning that it has to be something that works evenif the participants don't know about it. Maybe it is just a specific type of food or something. If it were some sort of fish or other sea-based ingredient, it would make sense that Vo could have had it by accident on a boat.

This is literally the best thing on the internet.

(Yes, including the RoW samples (which admittedly I haven't read yet).)

Also, @AonEne or anybody else in the memes thread, please make some memes of screenshots of the Overlords face while he comically describes people on Roshar being stupid, because that is some great emoting.

For the record, Hoid refers to the ghost he is using as a raft as Spanky. Apparently, Spanky's parents were happily married.

These are my favorite things!

I do have ten nitpicks, though:

1. Neither the shardfork nor the Lie of the Tenth Pancake were mentioned.
2. Not all orders have exactly five oaths. Lightweavers explicitly have an undefined number that is usually greater than five, depending on how much therapy they need.
3. Shallan was about 11 when she killed her mother. It happened within months of the killing of Gavilar (possibly the same day, but unlikely).
4. You never mentioned the tenth pancake.
5. It was known when Edgedancer came out that both Ym and the Stump were Truthwatchers, because they both had progression and neither were Edgedancers.
6. The way that Lift figured out that Nin-son-God wouldn't kill her if she was pardoned is that he punished his henchmen for stabbing Gawx without a warrant.
7. YOU NEVER MENTIONED THE TENTH PANCAKE!
8. Wyndle almost explicitly says that Lift's boon was actually granted by Cultivation herself, not by the Nightwatcher. As far as we know, the Nightwatcher cannot on her own grant boons that are different from what the person asked for, though if she is incapable of granting what the wisher asks she will try to suggest a different boon unless Cultivation steps in.
9. We also learn that Lift has an uncanny ability to pick up slang and new language, which may or may not be related to her powers (the fact that it is pointed out to the reader in-character implies that it is important).
10. There is no tenth nitpick. It is actually a metaphor for the incompleteness of true pedantry.

4 hours ago, Spren of Kindness said:

That intro was the best thing ever!  And yes, the lullaby is terrifying.

In fairness, all lullabies are terrifying, even in the real world.

Out of curiosity, when is the next one?

This made me realize that it would be almost impossible to keep Kosher on Roshar. Almost all of the meat is from shellfish (or terrestrial shelled creatures that similarly don't fit the requirements for kosher meat) or pork, and even the dairy products or pig-milk-based, making them un-Kosher too.

Also, please post the next Overlady Reads ASAP!

These have quickly become my favorite thing on the site.

For the record, the Gyorns report directle to the Wyrm Wyrn, while the Grognards still remember the days of THAC0. Hrrisson Fjord is a Gyorn.

On that note, can we get a glossary of the mispronunciations, malapropisms, and (un?)intentional word replacement in the episode?

In the first question, did Brandon accidentally confuse Oathbringer for the sword of Jezrien?

In the first question, did Brandon accidentally confuse Oathbringer for the sword of Jezrien?

I love these videos too, but as an incurable nitpicker I must point something out (which should actually make you feel somewhat better about the series (maybe)). Kandra already can breed technically, its just that without spikes, they are mistwraiths, and no intelligent Kandra choose to have kids because without spikes they aren't sapient. As Kandra are functionally immortal (i.e. don't really die of old age) and nobody is killing them, extinction is a non-issue, and as they don't like to reuse spikes and the creation of spikes is unethical, they no longer make new ones. The reason that koloss can have kids is that their spikes remove sapience to an extent, so their non-spiked children are mostly humans. They have a similar problem to the Kandra when it comes to the finite spike supply (see Allomancer Jak), but because they have an age limit and no qualms about reusing spikes, and because unspiked koloss-born are basically humans, it doesn't create issues in the same way.

I took it and got Truthwatcher (76%). Reading the description of the order, it seems to fit me very well. Also, and more importantly, LOOOOORRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

This whole thing was amazing. I just have one question: When does the tenth anniversary leatherbound version of the forum come out?

I have two comments:

1. "But from my perspective it's the Jedi Stone Shamans who are evil!" -Szeth-son-son-Vallano, played by Hayden ChrisShinShin
2. Is it possible that the spirits of the stones that promised the Desolations were over were the Heralds?

On ‎1‎/‎13‎/‎2020 at 9:07 PM, Rask said:

I really want SA4 to give us the Herdazian creation myth, it would be super cool and imformative to compare it to the Horneater one and find the similarities.  

Though they seem to be somewhat more secular, and they certain have major differences from the Alethi and Vedens in practices, the Herdazians are broadly speaking Vorin, so presumably their creation myth is the same as the Vorin one. What I really want to know is the Shin creation myth.

I somehow managed to get almost everything except a BINGO. I am not counting 2020 plans because there was no specific list or Dark One pilot progress because there was no progress. Also, don't panic, I will charge my phone. 

My first reaction: Wait, Grey and Feather are in a D&D group together? Can we just get a D&D one-shot shardcast?

My second reaction: pleeeeeaaaasssseeee.