Lord Bookwyrm

OK, so I've always wondered, is feruchemy an on/off switch or a button you have to keep on pressing? By that I mean do you have to always conciously store and when you stop paying attention, you stop tapping/storing, or is it that you have to make the decision to start storing/tapping, then until you make the decision to stop storing/tapping, you just keep on doing it?

1) Ettmetal is reactive, (probably) because of something to do with having too many or too few electrons. However, because it's in an alloy, it probably won't be as reactive. (screw that I was thinking of compounds) 2) yeah, but hemalurgy isn't genetic, as allomancy and feruchemy are. Because of this similarity, we can say other things are similar, and that means you might be able to burn it with lerasium to become a feruchemist

OK, so it might be done by burning an alloy of lerasium and harmonium or lerasium and atium. Here's the reasoning behind this: For both, lerasium can be burned by anyone, so it's fairly safe to assume that anyone can burn it's alloys as well. we know that harmonium is a combination of ruin and preservation, but since they are in (roughly) equal amounts, it can't give anything, things can only be stored to use later. This makes it something to do with feruchemy, which is also a combination of preservation and ruin. Lerasium, since it's preservation, must give something, and nothing can be lost, since preservation cannot destroy. So, the lerasium must give you something. (lerasium) gives (harmonium) feruchemy. A lerasium-harmonium alloy (could) make someone a feruchemist, and the different base metals would make you a ferring. Alternately, you could argue that it wouldn't work, that there is too much preservation in the mix. This leads to the second option, that an alloy of atium and lerasium would make you a feruchemist. The theory works in the same way as that of the harmonium-leraium alloy, just with a more equal ratio of preservation and ruin. Adding a base metal would make you a ferring, as of before. Both use lerasium, so it's probably safe to assume that anyone which includes everyone can burn it.

Perhaps. We really can't know unless we see it happen, or if Brandon confirms or denies this. Of course, he could always just RAFO it... But, I think you couldn't, since you're preservation, and stormlight is from honour, so even if you could, surgebinders couldn't use it. Or at least not the ones we know fo in the stormlight archive. If you made spren from preservation though...

You'd be unimaginably strong, but you would be stornger if you compounded pewter at the same time.

Lerasium, honourspren that I'm bonded to and an alloy of lerasium and ettmetal (ettmetal is the god metal for harmony, and lerasium gives something, usually allomancy, but the rule probably changes for god metal. Since steel - lerasium probably makes someone a coinshot, the magic system for harmony would probably an alloy of lerasium and the god metal for harmony, namely, ettmetal. Therefore, an alloy of ettmetal possibly and probably makes you a feruchemist). I am now a full feruchemist, Mistborn and I have Gravitation, Adhesion, Shardplate and Shardblade. I probably can't be harmed by anything. But, if I could choose more, I would choose atium, since it's the only metal apart from lerasium (which you already have), and ettmetal (which is arguably worthless). If we can choose stuff from outside the cosmere, a shadowblaze, all the lenses from Alcatraz, the talent of breaking and Calamity's powers. #op

The Coppermind. Search Odium. Then search Splinters.

I think I mentioned that

+ F-Steel = OP, since you're going so fast they can't react to you, but that would be the Sliver, not a Mistborn.

By now, everyone probably know that in the beginning (or at least the beginning of time relevant to us in the Cosmere), there was Adonalsium. He was Shattered by 16 people, who split his power into 16 equal parts, and then separated and went their different ways, some together, some not. Then, after everyone settled down, Odium (formerly known as Rayse) travelled around the Cosmere, splintering Shards as he went. The Splintering split the Shards into Splinters with different Intents to the Shard they were once part of. Now here's the thing; Shattering sounds very much like Splintering: a new Intent? Check; a splitting of the power? Check. This means that the things we know about Splintering can be applied to Shattering, and vice versa. As proven by Sazed, more than one Shard can be held by the same person/entity. This means someone can take a Splinter's power and merge it with another to creat a new Intent, with a greater power than before. This means that Splintering may not be irreversible as once thought, merely difficult to gain enough Splinters to gain power equal to the power held by the Shards. This is no doubt what Odium wanted when he started his killing spree. He may not have been able to destroy the power completely, but could do enough that it made things really hard to gain a power level equal to that of Odium's. Of course, he might have trouble trying to combat Harmony, what with him having the power of two Shards, but that will come later. This means that, eventually, someone may be able to gather the power of all 16 Shards (and their Splinters), and become Adonalsium. Of course, this doesn't make one invincible... Feel free to add anything if you like, since this theory is probably incomplete and needs refining.

So, I've been thinking a lot about magic systems lately. They all seem to be related to the Shard that created them (preservation is related to pushing on metals and enflaming people's emotions? That's a bit of a stretch), and Adonalsium is all the Shards, and so doesn't really have a specific Shardic Intent, and so the magic system he may or may not have created would just be something to do with Investiture, and nothing else. This is what I think it would be: You take something and you store Investiure in it (kind of like nicrosil feruchemy), in the form of physical abilities/attributes. This includes speed, emotions, health, etc. (sounds kind of familiar, doesn't it? Don't worry, it deviates from feruchemy in the next part). Then, the Investiture stored in the object is not anything in particular, but just pure Investiture. When you want to use it, you simply drain the Investiture out of it and convert it into anything you want it to be. People who could use this magic system would be able to use magic systems created by other Shards as well, since all the Shards came from Adonalsium. So, you could make yourself really light, then fly across the sky by pushing yourself along on a coin. Here's why I think the magic system would work: Adonalsium doesn't have a specific Shardic Intent, so he can do anything without conflicting against it. The magic system, similarly, wouldn't have any specific boundaries. This, however, means that it is subject to normal rules, such as the first law of thermodynamics, which states that energy (and so matter and Investiture) cannot be created or destroyed. You may be thinking at this point 'but that can't be true, since Allomancy created Investiture'. However, I have two answers to this. The first is that the Investiture wasn't created, it simply came from somewhere, and that somewhere was Preservation. His Intent didn't allow destruction, or Ruin, so the power couldn't come from the people themselves; it had to come from Preservation. My second answer is that, for all the Investiture being created by Allomancy, an equal amount was lost through hemalurgy. Therefore, no Investiture was gained or lost, therefore leaving the rule intact. Because of this rule, the Investiture would either have to come from Adonalsium (which I find unlikely, since it would A: weaken him to the thing that opposed him (look on the Coppermind for details), and B: would make him 'interfere' (quote from Harmony), and would split the power into Shards, leaving him weaker and with an Intent that would leave his mind. So, it has to come from the humans who use it. However, the thing stored is pure Investiture, since it's not from any particular Shard, and so you could convert it to anything you want, and since it doesn't have any focus, you can store it in anything and can store anything and tap anything, even if the thing you're tapping isn't the same thing as what you stored. Feel free to add anything if you want, since I probably left something out or made a loophole.

OK (I really like that word, don't I?), so I've been wondering about different types (?) of Investiture and how they interact. Contrary to what the title may suggest, Interaction and Interruption are not two new theoretical shards. So, if someone were to burn chromium or nicrosil (leecher and nicroburst), and they were touching, say, a KR, would their surgebinding be boosted or their Stormlight to be destroyed? Similar is if someone was a duralumin/aluminium gnat and were able to use another type of Investiture related magic, would the magic be boosted/destroyed? If a soulbearer ferring (nicrosil - stores Investiture) were to be able to use another type of magic, would they be able to convert the focus into Investiture and then tap it as another type, like metal? Because then you could take metal and convert it to Investiture, then convert it to Stormlight, which is non-existant on Scadrial. Thus, a KR could use surgebinding on Scadrial without any Stormlight, as long as they were a soulbearer ferring. I get the feeling that I've missed something out, so feel free to add anything if you want to.

OK... I think I got that (notice my obsession with the word 'OK').

OK, so the reason why everyone loves Mistborn so much is because it has a really good magic system, and characters are generally really good. People love it not because the characters who can use the magic are virtually undefeatable, or can beat everyone else, but because of the different ways you can use it, and the ingenuity it takes to use it well, the subtle yet effective push/pull on someone's emotions with brass/zinc, etc. So, in general, people love Mistborn not because it's perfect, but rather for it's flaws, the limits it has. Not sure if I phrased that correctly.

OK, so I found the relevant quote on the Coppermind. So yeah.

OK, so I was reading the Coppermind when I came across this: Hemalurgy can be used anywhere in the Cosmere[9], as long there is an intent to create a Hemalurgic spike. Hemalurgy can also steal attributes from other forms of Investiture.[10] Hemalurgy can be used on animals. So, a few thoughts. The kandra blessings (iron, tin, zinc and copper - strenth, senses, emotional stability and fortitude and intelligence and memory) give sentience to kandra, which have no prior form of conciousness. Could this mean cows could fly around on metal and talk to other cows, and eventually take over mankind as the top of the food chain and claim dominion over the land, plants and animals? Personally, I think this is a bit of a long shot, but still. Since the magic focus of Scadrial is metal, and Ruin resides on Scadrial (in the form of Harmony), would all Hemalurgy throughout the Cosmere be done with metal? Or would it be done with the magic focus of the planet in question? If so, what about on planets that aren't Shardworlds (I mean, there have to be at least a few, right?), would you have to use metal, or the magic focus of the nearest Shardworld? If trying to Steal surgebinding from a KR, would I have to stab the spren as well as the person to get the surgebinding abilities? I think the first parts are plausible, but if asked, Brandon would probably reply with a RAFO. It says that Hemalurgy can be used anywhere in the Cosmere, but never says that it can't be used anywhere else. Think of what people could do with this kind of stuff! Epics would be lying in the street, dead, because people want their powers. Anyone could become an Epic! Rithmatists would no longer be special, and would probably be hunted by people who wanted their powers. I mean, yeah, you could just set up a ton of lines of forbiddance to stop anyone from crossing, but they don't last forever. This leads me to my next point. What would happen if someone had a copper spike, but then someone else spiked them with a different spike, then put that inside themselves (that sounded really wrong)? Would they get the intelligence of both people, or just the one they spiked, and to get the other one they had to take the spike out and put it in themselves? Creating a Hemalurgic charge requires physical injury, but death is not a requirement to charge the spike.[2] This would leave the donor in a similar spiritual condition to a Drab, but in a worse condition OK, so we already know that the way hemalurgy works is by taking part of someone's spiritDNA and putting it into someone else. However, the person it was taken from is not required to die. So, part of the person is gone, and since hemalurgy=ruin, and ruin is ruin, the person who remains is probably someone who's had all the good sucked out of their lives, leaving a person with depression, hopeless, etc. kind of like what happens to a person when they are subject to the Dementor's Kiss, but still has a soul, and so can do stuff, but probably in an evil-got-nothing-to-lose-so-i-can-do-anything kind of way. Remind me to stay away from them. There were probably a few more things I was thinking of, but for the moment, I've forgotten them. So for now, this is all you've got, but it's pretty ggod stuff, if i do say so myself. Anyway, thanks for reading this.

Can I just say... movies of books are usually worse than the books themselves, and usually the plot is (very) different. Take for example Percy Jackson. Kronos isn't supposed to even appear until the fourth book, and they mist (bad pun) some of the most epic scenes in the series, including: Ares vs. Percy on the beach; Nico using his powers to DESTROY the Spartus(es?); the Battle for Olympus; the Great Prophecy; and a ton of other stuff. If you aren't convinced that the books are (much) better than the films, look at Eragon for an example. The whole magic system (the Ancient Language) is gone, and it misses a ton of good scenes and stuff that has to be included for the other books to even make sense! So, they're probably going to have to make the whole thing again, but ANYWAY as I was saying, the movies are usually complete trash compared to the books, so I, for one, am completely AGAINST the notion of making Mistborn (or any other BS book, for that matter) into a film/movie, purely because I don't want to see one of the GREATEST BOOKS OF ALL TIME turned into something that is complete trash, completely messes up the magic system (which I'm sure you'll agree is FREAKING AWESOME) and probably won't make it past the first movie or so. IN CONCLUSION I don't think Mistborn should become a movie because it'll be really bad compared to the books, and I don't want to see one of my favourite books made into a cheap imitation of the grand original. Thank you for your understanding.

I got windrunner... not sure. Of course, its awsome, and its what i wanted to get... but still. I guess i expected to be a lightweaver. Second tome, and I got Dustbringer.

Nice. A very neat theory. Here, have an upvote.

Well that totally spoilt my day (and my fanfiction)

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OK, so after I read (most of) Words of Radiance, I spent a long time fantasizing about how Kaladin would return to Hearthstone, Challenge Roshone and basically just do stuff. I didn’t really develop it into a real story, but I wrote down some initial ideas about what could happen. Here’s what I came up with: Kaladin practicing half lashings (where you’re weightless, since your Gravitation and gravity are equal). When he masters this, he disguises himself as a lighteyes who’s visiting Hearthstone so that no one recognizes him. He then lashes himself to Hearthstone in about an hour (that’s a lot of lashings, which means a lot of Stormlight. Sigh), but sets himself down a few minutes’ walk away from the main gate, out of sight from the town. He then goes in and Roshone invites him to stay at his place for dinner and a place to rest. Kaladin accepts and keeps a calm demeanor, but is raging inside. At this point, a few things could happen. Either he goes to the town square and reveals his true identity, he stays at Roshone’s house for a night and does that the next day, or travels about town and meets his parents, who at first don’t recognize him, but eventually realize who he is, and the next day he reveals himself to everyone else. Whichever one happens, it doesn’t really affect how the story will turn out (or at least, not too much). Either way, he reveals his true identity and summons Syl as a Shardblade. In the first and second options, everyone (including his parents) is amazed to see that Kaladin has returned, and shocked to find that he is a lighteyes, he has a Shardblade and that he is a Knight Radiant. The only difference with the third option is that Kaladin’s parents know that he has a Shardblade and that he is a lighteyes, but they don’t know that he is a KR. Anyway, after a few moments of silence, Roshone sneers and says something along the lines of ‘So, the underdog has returned, has he? Or will he leave and betray us, just as those who did before him.’ Kaladin quiets him and warns them of the Everstorm. When he is done, he covertly threatens Roshone by saying something like ‘Oh, and by the way, you better not try anything, or-‘. After, this, Kaladin goes home (all three options) and tries to persuade his parents to come to the Shattered Plains. ‘It would be safer’ Kaladin insisted. ‘Roshone wouldn’t be able to do anything, and even if something does happen there, I’ll be around to protect you.’ His father replies that he must stay here, to help the townspeople if they get injured or ill, and repeats what he said all those years ago: ‘If no one starts to do the right thing, then no one can follow.’ This pretty much ends the argument, but before he leaves, Kaladin leaves a spanreed for them to contact him if the need ever arises, so that he can come and do whatever needs to be done. ‘I’ll send you some of my income.’ Kaladin said. ‘It’s not like I don’t have enough of it; I’m the leader of the personal guard of the Highprince of War, and on top of that I’m a KR. You don’t need to worry about money anymore.’ With this, he leaves. What do you think? Please tell me whether you find it interesting or not (of course, since it isn’t a fully formed story and it hasn’t been edited, it’s sure to be at least a little bad, but tell me what you think of it anyway)

OK, so you know how in Mistborn if you swallow metal you can use powers, etc. etc. We all know that stuff. Same for the Stormlight Archive. If there's a nearby source of stormlight, you can abbsorb it and use powers. But here's the thing; at the end of HoA, Vin absorbs the Mists and Ascends. The same could be true for the Stormlight Archive; if you absorb enough Stormlight, you could Ascend. You could dismiss this by saying 'even if you swallow a lot of metal, you don't ascend'. This is true; but remember this. The metals commonly used in allomancy are channels for power; the power isn't in the metal itself; rather, you use it to channel power from preservation. If you take a metal with the power actually inside of it, say, lerasium. If you have enough of it (enough to become a savant), you ascend. This could be true for the SA as well. Since Stormlight holds the actual power and is not a channel for it, if you had enough, you would ascend to become Honour. Again, you might say 'but Vin could absorb the Mists because Leras let her, and he chose her to be the next Preservation'. If you think about it, this could be true for SA as well, more specifically, Dalinar. Think about it. The Almighty (Honour) gave him seizures (not much of a gift, but still) so that he could see recordings of him. He chose Dalinar, the same way Leras chose Vin. Admittedly, Honour has been Splintered, but could it come back together for a new Shard? Quite possibly. Please tell me what you think of this down below. (by which i mean tell me whether I'm a deranged lunatic or a child prodigy)

Just compound iron, pewter and steel. The pewter makes you really strong so you can push the plateau over, then the iron makes you really heavy for all that extra momentum, and the steel makes you so fast that the parshendi can't react. Then, to make sure you don't get knocked back, duralumin steelpush behind you. The parshendi fall and die. Problem solved.

Chalklings take one hit. Lines of forbiddance and warding can take more damage. And besides, what can't Adonalsium do? I mean, someone who's basically God can defend someone, right?