Jonathon

My understanding was that the symbol creatures were just cryptics. A type of radiant spren that makes someone a light weaver. Also you are correct not all orders have the ability to soulcast only the two orders with the surge of transformation which are the lightweavers and the elsecallers (jasnah and shallan for example). I'm not exactly sure what the significance of Elhokar and Gaz seeing the cryptic spren is but perhaps it's as simple as them being chosen to also become lightweavers? I don't find this likely although it certainly would be fun to see that progression in those characters

You know you're a sanderfan when a joke theory you made turns into a full blown investigation about the validity of someone being an actual person

We've been missing the big pictre everybody! Nobody has been asking about Extesian, instead we've all been distracted by Calderis! What if Extesian is the real spy and he paid off Calderis to distract us so that he would continue to go unnoticed

This one is gonna be hard to decide: Calderis versus Extesian Discuss!

How have you gotten so good at pretending to be a person?

And you just so "happened" to have that giant excuse ready? It sounds almost like you've rehearsed it and used that excuse before. Many times. Now why would you need to do that unless you've got something to hide? Edit: I feel like the essence of the original conspiracy has been lost and the entire Extesian side of this has been dropped. It just feels like the theory about how to attack Calderis

That's what you WANT us to think! Alright Mr. "Real Person", if you're not a group of people taking shifts, then how are you on here for so many hours? It's like you don't sleep. And if you don't sleep that means that at least some of the stuff you say should make no sense because you weren't thinking in your tired state. But no. It ALL makes sense. You are TOO DARN PERFECT to be a real person. So you better fess up or we'll find you....

This is only tangentially related to your theory, but reading your theory made me realize this: If it is called a desolation because honor is abandoning them, then the heralds didn't lie at all when they said that the previous one was the last desolation. That's because that was the last one before honor was shattered so it's the last time he could abandon them. So if this current desolation does not involve the abandonment of honor and the way it is happening is different, then is this desolation the true desolation? Perhaps the "abandonment" that is happening is odium finally abandoning his imprisonment on Braize by the end of this desolation due to honor being splintered and Taln having broken so no one is regulating the prison. Hypothetically, if this led to a battle between Odium and Cultivation then I think based on your WOB above that cultivation knows how to fight back, she would win and kill rayse. However we also have another WOB which I don't know how to find about how the shard odium survives to the second arc but the vessel might not. So someone else will then pick up the odium shard. The question is: Who?

Calderis says that he can't even Apparently he isn't believin' That my last post was sent And what it truly meant I was commenting on a post by Extesian

Actually you're lending fuel to my next conspiracy for a night when someone else is really bored. It will feature parts about how you two might or might not be the same person it also lends itself to the original conspiracy as to why one person would need multiple active accounts. Perhaps you two are shell accounts by a corporation working to take down Brandon Sanderson from the inside out... but that's a theory for another time

A new theory was posted by Extesian He tried to defend it with reason He sourced and he quoted Our minds he exploded We'll see if he's right come next season

Granted. Now all of them are cancelled instead I wish to uncover a conspiracy on the seventeenth shard

Nope

Anytime

Go check out my latest "theory" for some entertainment. *wink*

Conspiracy Theory: @Calderis and @Extesian aren't actually the good guys we all believe them to be. We all think they're so great because they have sooo many posts and so much rep and they seem so knowledgeable, whereas we've been being deceived this ENTIRE time. Actually, I don't know if deceived is the right word for it. After all Calderis always says how he doesn't understand why he gets so much rep and both Calderis and extesian have talked about how they are held on such a high pedestal when really, there are tons of people with more posts/rep/knowledge than them. So they admit it themselves. That they are fakes. What if good old Calderis and Extesian are actually being payed off by someone to perpetrate false information around the shard. Now they wouldn't do it in obvious ways most of the time, just in small subtle ways so that nobody even realizes until it is too late. Much like how ruin changed the writings slightly to influence the characters in mistborn. They are our ruin. They are the seventeenth shards entropy. And what if the person paying them off is none other than Brandon himself. Why do you think they're always sooo good at finding WoB's for everyone and how come sometimes they "could've sworn" there was a WOB about a certain topic that no one can ever find? They needed to use facts at first to gain respect and acknowledgement but now that they've made it to the top of the food chain they can more easily spread lies about the cosmere information we have to try and prevent more of groundbreaking accidental discoveries ruining Brandon's plot twists and surprises. They practically monitor this place 24/7 between the two of them. Calderis has said that he practically spends all day on the shard -- EVEN when he's at "work". And then while Calderis sleeps Extesian monitors. Maybe not always taking as much of a forward approach like Calderis but posting less often with more "facts" and "research" yet he still has around the same amount of rep anyway. In fact when this was brought up to them Calderis and extesian both mentioned how they have completely different techniques on how they operate on the shard. This would help their plot of espionage because even if a person dislikes calderis's methods they would probably appreciate Extesian's and vice versa. We think the enemies are only in the book pages but the real enemies are already standing with a knife to your throat thank you, and goodnight Disclaimer: i don't personally believe any of the claims or assumptions above and none of them are meant to harm or discredit any person in any way shape or form. It is not meant to offend or annoy either. Only for entertainment purposes (like most theories on here) Edit: @Calderis I don't think you're ready for this one: Conspiracy theory 2! I am Calderis incarnate and I have come to take my throne beside him! Okay, lets back up here. After all that is a bit of a dramatic statement. Which is why I will explain in explicit detail why it is correct. Firstly as our neighborhood Calderis pointed out to me earlier, our names are literally one letter away from being identical. It is a matter of vowels, whereas I have an o and he has an a. Next, would be the fact that neither of us feel worthy of gaining reputation. Like seriously guys, 13 rep? On this one post??? What even.... As Calderis has said he lurked a long long time before he started being active, but once he did start being active he rose through the ranks quickly. I didn't lurk for too long only a few months and when I did I would post every now and then but only rarely. Then sometimes between I think the beginning of the month and now I went from about 5 reputation to 74 and my post count which was barely 10 is now in the eighties. Amazing what such a short period of time can do, or at least it feels amazing to me. It probably isn't all too amazing in relation to people who gain that much rep on a daily basis. Which in saying that last sentence I'm proving how much I'm like him because he always says how he's nothing compared to some other people. Now, there is one distinct difference between me and Not Me. That being, Calderis has over 2k posts and I'm not even at a hundred. Compared to him I'm just a little shard baby. But then again, so was he at one point. So we're all of you, too. Everyone was. After all, you gotta start somewhere. But now what does this mean in context of the original conspiracy? Well this means that I'm likely a super-secret spy espionage dude in training to corrupt people's views of the cosmere and keep them from the truth. I guess we all have a side that we keep hidden. What's yours? Until next time, people of earth... OMG I DID A THING! IT HAS A HEART!!

Never apologize for poetry We have a long wait 'fore Oathvember And that causes pain to each member We need it right now To read and say wow! We need a book we will forever remember

Thats what makes this place so much fun But seriously though, If Brandon has said there's something weird with the dustbringers than I would imagine that's why nobody has found Chana. Wasn't it also mentioned that dustbringers have been confused with voidbringers due to the similar name? Perhaps this "weird thing" going on had something to do with that

I'm just waiting for the day when we DO have enough information to find her and we all face palm because she was probably right under our noses. On a side note, wasn't there a WOB about how there's something weird going on with dustbringers?

Granted you can create money of any kind however for every piece of currency you create, you lose a year off of your life. I wish that people didn't always have to hate each other and be such jerks all the time about literally everything

Well, out of the three of you I only follow extesian and you so I figured it would make no sense if I talked about The One Who Connects as well. I didn't mean any disrespect by my lack of mention

You know you're a sanderfan when you get two nearly identical emails of posts by both extesian and Calderis

I think this is the part where you're getting confused, it was mentioned that tanavasts cognistive shadow specifically merged with the stormfather rather than bonding with it. If it was stated that they bonded then I might be on board with your theory, however I don't believe that merging and bonding would have the same effect and therefore you wouldn't be able to separate them after a merge.

This would make a pretty good slogan for every theory ever ironically this ones also from Calderis

So basically you two are saying that you both have entirely different methodologies that both eventually lead to the same goal? Calderis using more intuition and instinct and off-hand knowledge while Extesian uses documented research and fully planned out explanations? That's actually... pretty inspiring how you both have opposite philosophies when it comes to this site, yet still have similar rep numbers You two are like a metaphor for achieving your goals in life. Just because you don't do it the same way someone else does, doesn't mean you cannot reach the same goal Not only that but when it comes to this it seems the only thing you two agree upon is that you aren't the best and that there are better ways to do things. You two would make great characters in a book