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9 hours ago, Child of Hodor said:

Brandon has confirmed it was getting harder to maintain the same level of youth and that it could only work for so long.

Yes, but once the Well refilled he could've used the power to reshape his body, either undo the age of a millennia or possibly even make himself unaging so he would've no longer have needed to rely on the atium trick to sustain himself.

3 hours ago, Tglassy said:

Yes.  Because that disputes my point in some way.

 

It doesn't matter who he gave the Laresium to, he only gave it to 12 people.  

I think it's highly unlikely that Rashek would've had any children after ascended, which is why I think his children were from before he became TLR. Doing so would've counteracted all the effort he put in originally to suppress feruchemy by turning all the Terris feruchemists into mistwraiths. I doubt that anyone can really claim any relation to him.

29 minutes ago, Tglassy said:

The way Brandon answers those questions about TLR's children makes me think that many of the Metalborn we meet in the books are actually descended from him. If you think about it, he made what, 12 Mistborn from his friends? 9?  I can't remember.  But there are a lot of them around, and it wouldn't be inconcievable that he had his own bloodlines through the ages.  If you are a Misting or Mistborn, and you got your power from one of 13 people in the ancient past, and the families have been interbreeding for a thousand years because they're not allowed to breed with any of the rest of the population...well, it stands to reason that many, many people have Rashek as an ancestor, even if he stopped having kids 500 years ago.  

No, The Lord Ruler making mistborns and the head of noble families out of his friends was a lie. His friends became the First Generation of kandra, while the origins of the noble family allomancy was due to him bribing the kings of countries with lerasium in exchange for serving under him. 

Yes. People who are stronger allomancers, with lerasium-made mistborns at the top, can burn metals more efficiently, burning them more quickly and drawing out more investiture per mass of metal.

5 minutes ago, Mistborn Radiant said:

I see, thanks for the clarification. Although I'd disagree that his children were nothing special. Sure his descendants weren't, but that's a few hundred years down the track. His children would presumably still have had some sort of power? We know that the stronger the allomantic bloodlines the stronger the allomancers and higher chance of breeding allomancy. Surely after his ascension, no one had a more powerful bloodline than he and his children would have presumably had mistborn powers. They may not have gone on to do anything significant, maybe they became inquisitors or something, but I wouldn't say they 'weren't special' because we don't really know that. 

Actually, his children would probably be weaker than someone born to just a lerasium mistborn as the allomancy and feruchemy genes would probably degrade each other quickly due to the potency of each. Also, it's not confirmed that he had children after he became the Lord Ruler.

2 hours ago, Tglassy said:

In reality, as narcissistic as Kelsior is, his actual focus is on protecting those who can't protect themselves.  He's the Scadrial equivalent of a Windrunner.  He's Kaladin, he just learned how to smile instead of brood.  He's just completely ok with killing people to do it.  While he did take down a government, he didn't do it because he hates governments.  He did it because the government was corrupt and abusive.  Kel is very noble, in his way.  I think he would be trying to help people who can't help themselves, in any way he could.  

Not at all. Kelsier took down the Final Empire because he was angry that Rashek had killed Mare, because he hated the nobles with a passion, and because doing so would fuel his narcissistic and hero complex tendencies. Helping the skaa was an additional benefit to this, as well as having the rebellion through Yomen enable him. At the end of the day, his hatred for the nobles far out-weighs any empathy for the skaa's plight. This line from The Final Empire most strongly displays that he doesn't care about skaa at all.

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“These were evil men, Vin,” [Kelsier] said. “Every skaa knows in his heart that it is the greatest of crimes to take up arms in defense of the Final Empire.”
- The Final Empire

These are not the words of someone who cares about skaa at all. These are the words of someone who hates the nobles, and views anyone actively supporting them as fair game. If he were a "Scadrial equivalent of a Windrunner" he would be doing what is right and trying to help these guards find better means of livelihood. Instead he's killing them because the only means of livelihood is defending noble keeps where they could be killed by misting assassins.

He's looking for things to satisfy his hero complex, and if getting involved with the fight between shards is one way, he'll get in there.

1 hour ago, Ammanas said:

I just hope The Lost Metal will not join the Rithmatist sequel (The Azlatian? I think) as a book that is consistently being put on the back burner for more "important" books and series. That he will not jump to era 2 (I guess its era 3 right now since people couldn't wrap their minds around era 1.5) and say I will get to Lost Metal someday. I keep telling myself at least Brandon isn't a Rothfuss (approaching a decade and still not even able to write one book) but I digress...

Not a chance that he doesn't write TLM. He knows how important it is, unlike Rithmatist, which while people would love to see the world and the book is highly asked after, I doubt it's as sought outside of people who are actively talking to him. 

To expand further, Brandon was never intending to write Alloy of Law at all when he first planned out the full Mistborn series. It just slipped it when he decided to write a book revisiting it during a break which due to popularity got expanded into a full series. 

Overall, the reason why it's being written now is that first: chronology doesn't really matter between series. The events of Stormlight Archives are unlikely to have a noticeable impact on the story of MB Era 2, so writing it now or later doesn't matter. Secondly. Brandon likes writing multiple series at the same time, it's how he's able to keep so prolific. He's talked about this at various times, but the main thing is that switching between different series allows him to stay creative. 

7 hours ago, Draginon said:

You could also count the Elantrians as 'undead' because they technically die but don't move onto the Cognitive Realm. Then there's the fact that Preservation says they're dead but not, and I'd take that to mean undead.

Would revived dead shardblades count as undead or just restored?

I don't think Elantrians are ever really dead. During the Shaod they're caught mid-transformation so most of their bodily functions are arrested and they're physically just sustained by the Dor. Once that was over, then they're basically fully living people again, and may not even need the Dor to sustain themselves. 

6 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said:

The ardents are one thing. People like Fen, Aladar, Jasnah, maybe Gawx, would defenitely believe him after all they have seen him do. The visions are from the Almighty yes, but the fact that he got them, imprisoned an Unmade, warned about Voidbringers, saved Thaylen City should indicate that he isn’t just making random stuff up about Tezim. 

You were asking why he didn't act on that info sooner, but half of the things which proved his credibility happened at the end of the OB, so he couldn't have acted before that. 

1 hour ago, Ixthos said:

I didn't include Koloss because - unless I am mistaken - they can't be killed by removing the spikes that made them, while a steel inquisitor dies without the spikes that made them, and if the spikes weren't hemalurgic they themselves would have killed them - much like a headless horseman is considered undead because how can it survive without a head?

Removing koloss spikes probably kill them as well as the amount of physical changes to them wouldn't be sustainable with the spikes twisting the spiritual to make that physical form work. Overall, I agree that hemalurgic constructs shouldn't be considered undead. They're just living things badly bent out of portion. Otherwise, you would also have to include Zane as an undead hemalurgic construct as removing his spike would likely kill him as well.

3 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said:

I think it would, especially after showing the visions to people. Everyone knows that Dalinar has gotten good intel before, and most people would accept Stormfather as an authority, especially after seeing him.

From the visions, which as you point out are viewable and also a message from the Almighty, not the Stormfather. There's no proof that the Stormfather told him that though, or that it's true. And are you forgetting the whole marriage where the ardents still condemned him.

Which Listener group? The ones that ran away? They might be still alive although the thought was that they were going to die to the highstorm. Otherwise, it doesn't seem like there are any Singers who were interested in working for them as far as I was aware.

6 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said:

It reminds me a bit of when Stormfather tells Dalinar that Tezim is Ishar. Incredibly valuable info, which Dalinar doesn’t act upon. 

Kind of hard to act on the unsubstantiated info in a significant way, bearing aside the fact that most people probably believe that the Heralds are gone. Saying the Stormfather said he's Ishar probably wouldn't be acceptable to most people.

1 hour ago, Tglassy said:

It would be interesting to know what would happen to the Stormfather if Dalinar broke his oath..Would he die?  Would the Storms stop?  Or would the HIghstorms rage but no longer grant Stormlight?  

Pattern said something in Words of Radiance which implied that the Stormfather was affected by the Recreance because his Bondsmith broke the bond, but because he was so powerful it didn't affect him the same way it affected others. I think that would probably hold true for any of the Bondsmith spren.

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“Not just one people,” Pattern said, solemn. “Many. Spren with minds were less plentiful then, and the majorities of several spren peoples were all bonded. There were very few survivors. The one you call Stormfather lived. Some others. The rest, thousands of us, were killed when the event happened. You call it the Recreance.”

- Words of Radiance, Chapter 75

On 9/7/2018 at 0:01 PM, Jofwu said:

Brandon, master of being sneaky while not being sneaky. 

The nature of Shinovar with its protective mountains does imply that it was intentionally made to be a bastion for non-Rosharan life to thrive.

3 hours ago, Quantus said:

The only one that's going to really bug me so far is "Shards" now that Stormlight has gotten underway, there's no way to completely avoid the confusion.  Ive tried to start using the term Hexadiety and Host for the Shards of Adonalsium, and leaving Shard and Shardbearer to the Rosharan use of the term. 

Doesn't really work though since there are 16 shards and hexadiety would just mean six.

34 minutes ago, Fanghur Rahl said:

From what I understand, Brandon seems to be just flat-out misusing the term ‘avatar’ in this context; the images that Shards display when they interact with mortals are more what the term ‘actually’ means.

Yeah, he's not using the actual definition of the word, likely in favor of the way the word is defined by Cosmere scholars. Same for splinter, sliver, etc, so I'm not too mad about it. I'm assuming he's basing it on the actual term. Although, at the end of the day, for all we know the way it's used in the Cosmere is just as correct since we don't know the formal definition of Avatar by Cosmere scholars with regards to realmatics.

22 hours ago, Subvisual Haze said:

I'm curious how the Oathgates work.  I believe Brandon has stated investiture is a special form of energy at be converted to different energy states including mass.  Is your body being molecularly disintegrated at Gate 1 into pure investiture and then your mind passes through the spiritual realm into a new clone body freshly created from pure investiture at Gate 2?

11 hours ago, Szmit said:

I don't think there is any desintegratoin. Since human PHISICAL body can get into Cognitive Realm it should be also able to get into the Spiritual Realm. However since there is no time or space inside travel would more or less indtant just as we see with oathgates. 

Entering the Cognitive Realm is actually your physical body just breaking down into investiture, so yeah, the Oathgates probably work in a similar way where both your Physical and Cognitive selves are converting to investiture and shunted through the Spiritual Realm to instantaneously change your Realmatic location.

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“So they’re all spren,” he said. “Shardblades.”

Syl grew solemn.

“Dead spren,” Kaladin added.

“Dead,” Syl agreed. “Then they live again a little when someone summons them, syncing a heartbeat to their essence.”

“How can something be ‘a little’ alive?”

“We’re spren,” Syl said. “We’re forces. You can’t kill us completely. Just . . . sort of.”

- Words of Radiance, Chapter 87

Based on what Syl said, it sounds like it's something to do with connecting the together, though I don't know what the exact details are.

Yes, I'm aware of your theory which is why I worded things the way I did.

@Corax You've done nothing that needs apologizing for. Don't worry about it, and you've been very clear with your arguments. 

I think this is doubtful. From the first OB letter:

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“Dearest Cephandrius,

I received your communication, of course. I noticed its arrival immediately, just as I noticed your many intrusions into my land. You think yourself so clever, but my eyes are not those of some petty noble, to be clouded by a false nose and some dirt on the cheeks. You mustn't worry yourself about Rayse. It is a pity about Aona and Skai, but they were foolish--violating our pact from the very beginning. Your skills are admirable, but you are merely a man. You had your chance to be more, and refused it. No good can come of two Shards settling in one location. It was agreed that we would not interfere with one another, and it disappoints me that so few of the Shards have kept to this original agreement. As for Uli Da, it was obvious from the outset that she was going to be a problem. Good riddance. Regardless, this is not your concern. You turned your back on divinity. If Rayse becomes an issue, he will be dealt with. 

And so will you.”

Based on the info we've been given, this letter is from Endowment. From it, we can tell that she has a very low tolerance for shards interfering with each other. I feel like with sentiments like that, should wouldn't allow Autonomy to create an extension of her power in her world. As such, I doubt Nightblood is the result of a shard's direct influence other than possibly Endowment.