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  1. Stick.
    I think elims these days don’t like saving their teammates xD what I’ve noticed is that elim teams would rather rely on the village to notice how there’s little pushback against the exe and move to a different target than actively suggest CWs themselves/defend the teammate in question. There’s definitely something very wrong about that 2-2-2-2-2-1-1-1 vote distribution.
  2. Stick.
    Are you suggesting a 5 player elim team o.O I was wondering if a three player elim team with a role scan, PM role and vanilla is balanced against a v!coinshot, lurcher and RBer. Since the CS tends to help the elim team out too. Though I think a 4 player elim team might make more sense in this case now. TKN’s engagement level drops every time he’s not being pressured into it, I agree that that’s definitely an Elim tell. Edit: I forget why I started village reading Xino. :thonk:
  3. Stick.
    I agree that Alpha's playstyle is similar to Thaid's, except I don't really remember what Thaid was like as an elim. Chaotic villager for sure. They can. tbh yeah that plan works better for e!you but after the village flip you'd have to say the elims framed you or else you get exe'd. Distro if v!Ash: Maybe v!Lopen+v!Huio+v!Cord = e!Rysn+e!Rushu+e!Vanilla?
  4. Stick.
    If I were evil I would just not put a kill in today just so that whoever you claim to roleblock gets exe'd the next turn - this would also incriminate you if you are village. That's two mixes easy. The reason I am saying this is so that the elims don't do it >:) You're implying that: 1. e!Alpha first says something vague and suspicious like 'I have secret reasons for this vote that I decided 4 pages ago' when they don't actually have a reason but just really want to vote there - maybe they didn't consult the doc before doing this and that's fair enough cuz they're new to this 2. e!Alpha's teammates see that post and go 'yeah just say you'll explain it later' instead of helping him come up with plausible justifications 3. Later when someone asks for the explanation, e!Alpha just goes 'ask me after the game' and their teammates say well done I have trouble seeing an elim team that doesn't try to coach e!Alpha through this. Maybe they were all consistently absent from the doc. Who would you have voted for if you were on at EoD?
  5. Stick.
    Oh. I actually just looked at the player list and wrote down my intuitive read on each player. But this makes me look a lot smarter yes.
  6. Stick.
    Here’s where I stand atm: Edit: despite how disorganised our D1 was, everybody but JNV voted so that’s nice
  7. Stick.
    clearly we are too powerful when there’s no threat of vote manipulation
  8. Stick.
    Of course
  9. Stick.
    Very sad for us if all the tied players are village U_U
  10. Stick.
    I do think Alpha is village tho
  11. Stick.
    I have managed to appear for rollover but idk it feels like people are trying to half heartedly start new wagons it’s not doing anything at this point Edit: it would be so awesome and so cool if we tied the votes
  12. Stick.
    What’s the vote count ?
  13. Stick.
    Clearly you have not met QF64!Stick I might be busy during rollover. E!Sart means E!Ash, because Ash is an easy CC vote for E!Sart and he is refusing to go there. For now I'm good with V!Wiz. Archer could be evil, and if Archer is evil then the elims are more likely to have Rushu because in an E!Archer world I feel like that misunderstanding of TKN's post was feigned. So E!Archer --> probably V!TKN
  14. Stick.
    I'd be down for an Archer flashwagon tbh
  15. Stick.
    It's only D1, I don't know anymore >> Okay true, I can see the self-consciousness in that post. I mean with that role claim it's reasonable to assume e!Ash's teammates won't really need to interfere all that much What if the village got both the roleblocker and the lurcher and the elims got the coinshot? ...Nah that's too wild ...but maybe in a two-elim world...Cuz after we exe one elim we effectively get rid of the coinshot bc actions economy
  16. Stick.
    I think some of us made a similar argument for V!Sart in LG92 - Aman was in his ‘im neutral’ era when Sart he voted for him and so a lot of us decided that surely an elim would not want to waste an exe on a claimed neutral (I forget, did the elims know there were no neutrals?). But essentially, at the time it seemed like E!Sart could have come up with more viable arguments if he wanted, which we weren’t seeing. The wonderful thing about people who don’t venture out of the SE sub forum is that you don’t need an ISO bot! Just go to page 2 or 3 of Sart’s posts and it’s all LG92. Edit: At some point he said Orlok’s view made more sense and then kind of tried to reason his side of it before abandoning that line of argument and moving on to something else entirely. To be fair, is argument here was just outright invalid, so it makes sense that it won’t fully track with LG92 but I think it’s similar enough
  17. Stick.
    Gaaahhhh Wiz I know what this looks like - I spend the entire turn asking people to join the wagon and retract my vote once people actually join it. But idk, the earnestness of this post: Reminds me a lot of AG9!Cham. This post, to be more specific: @Kasimir the LG90 interaction I mentioned is here (it’s the same ‘her votes are an elim jumping onto wagons’ argument): But I will say that I like the effort put into this post: Regarding Ash’s claim, I’m sympathetic but I don’t really like how Ash’s vote is still on Araris (which was a poke vote as far as I can tell). I’m uncomfortable with the lack of self-pres because the apathy there is Dingo vibes. Is it that one LG where we exe’d you and you were Mistborn? I don’t remember if you claimed it before dying though. That’s a really good point. I remember initially village-reading LG92!Sart for that Aman vote because I thought the confidence (and subsequent admission of fault in his arguments) was very village. On reflection, he actually did the exact same thing here. Sart edit: whoops I forgot my vote was no longer even on Wiz
  18. Stick.
    Sorry I should rephrase my question - what do you think of the Ash wagon? It started off popular, then died down a bit, and then rose back again. Like you said, Ash hadn’t posted much so there aren’t many arguments to be made against him unless said argument is e!Ash activity trends. Anyone wanna join me on TKN or Wiz? :3 The back-and-forth I just had with TKN reminds me of LG90 when E!TKN I think had a similar argument against me.
  19. Stick.
    We sure are having a lot of vote movement huh o.O What do you think of Ash?
  20. Stick.
    It was just the other half of the list, actually. xD Devo’s in there and she hasn’t posted yet.
  21. Stick.
    Well you're not entirely wrong - once Archer voted for you it seemed like this could go somewhere (my Wiz vote was collecting dust) so I hopped on. I'm still willing to switch back to Wiz if more people wanna join that wagon cuz I'd rather my vote actually do something. This response from you, for example, is way more than what I got when I asked you a direct question about your reads And I formed an opinion on you once you'd actually posted something AI - Kas had you in his evil pile for quite a while before that so if I were really just waiting for anybody to cast suspicion on you I would have taken my chances then instead of waiting 10 more hours. Edit: You are also implying that if I'm evil, one or more of <Ash, Xino, Telrao> is teamed with me - because who is E!me trying to start CWs for? And if that's the case, who do you think I'm trying to save?
  22. Stick.
    Hate to keep pulling up past!TKN receipts but he is usually against voting D1 unless he's strongly convinced someone's evil. So I'd like to hear his vote justification too because as of now it just looks like an OMGUS vote
  23. Stick.
    The Known Novel
  24. Stick.
    I'm also feeling positive about that last post Okay that makes sense yeah VC: Ash (3): xino, TJ, Kas Araris (1): Ash xino (3): Wiz, Sart, Telrao Wiz (1): Stick Telrao (2): Araris, Alpha TKN(1): Archer Ash must move to Telrao so that we can have all the A players voting Telrao. U_U What's with the Telrao votes anyway Edit: Never mind archer ruined it. VC fixed.
  25. Stick.
    I mostly just liked this post: That one's just gut. Speaking of Archer though - I'm guessing creating PMs counted as an action in the pre-approval ruleset? Yeah, I will note that that thought came after I'd brought up an E!TKN tell above.
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