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1 minute ago, Spoolofwhool said:

The example is in response to the question of whether bringing shards together would have a result which approaches Adonalsium, which the example and answer are saying is not what would necessarily. Brandon is saying the Dor is not like Adonalsium. 

Is there a reason why it should be? I haven't read AU (or Emperor's Soul) yet, so maybe there's something from there I don't know. But I thought the Dor came from the splintering of the two shards, somehow.

I don't really understand number three. How is the Dor similar to reassembling Adonalsium? Is it because the Dor is a mix of Devotion and Dominion? I still don't see the full connection though...

5 minutes ago, Nightblade said:

At the end of the WoR they mention a plague in purelake, and it just so happens the the 17th shard was at purelake trying to find Hoid, coincidence?

That is indeed what Brandon is referencing. Those three 17th Sharders brought the 'plague' there. People don't get sick very often on Roshar, so even a cold epidemic would seem like a plague to them. (Although, it might be a really bad cold, since it's a virus strain they don't have any immunity to.)

Just now, Demiandre said:

Yet, to whom does the "you" refer ? Anyone with enough ambition would interpret it as meaning it applied to themselves. After all, we don't know if Taravangian was adressing himself or somebody else when he was writting the Diagram, no ?

True, but I'm pretty sure there are other places where it's more obvious he refers to himself. I could be wrong.

That is interesting, yeah... Does that mean some of them disapprove of Taravangian trying to take over the world? I mean, the Diagram does literally say "You must become king of everything" or something, doesn't it? Not that much room for interpretation...

Just now, Deliiiiiightful said:

So like screenshot + attach? Does that work size-wise?

Depends on how long it is, I guess. I don't really know how twitter does compression of bigger pictures, but it usually seems to work ok. You could try it out without @ing him first, just to see if it works (and then delete it if you want your tweet to him to be the "real" tweet).

12 minutes ago, Deliiiiiightful said:

I have an Age Of the Internet problem. 

I wrote a Hamilton-inspired poem. I want to tweet it at Lin-Manuel. (Shh fangirl here. He seems pretty responsive to randoms). Its longer than a tweet. Where can I post it to link to?

The most common method (if it's not TOO long) is to attach it as a picture, but I guess you could post it to tumblr or something... There's also some website called "tweet longer" or similar, but I'm not sure exactly how it works.

11 hours ago, Pagerunner said:

Is there anyone going who's knowledgeable about chemistry? I just learned at the Hoboken signing that ettmetal is Harmonium, and Brandon was talking some about how its reactivity is an 'electron thing,' not protons or neutrons in the nucleus, because of the polar opposites embodied in it. I was ill-prepared to follow through from a chemistry approach, but Brandon was offering information, so now that it's out in the open he seemed really willing to talk about it. After sleeping on it, I came up with some thoughts on reactivity and electron shielding and ionization energy that I'm kicking myself for not having ready at the time; if those terms mean anything to anyone and you're interested in carrying the torch, you can feel free to PM me, and I'll give you some more specifics.

Well, it should pretty much be something like this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkali_metal

Except with slightly different properties because of God Metals being "wrapped in the spiritual", or however the old WoB about atium went. Others have postulated that Ettmetal was an alkali metal many times before, but it never held up to scrutiny because no alkali metals fit the description of Ettmetal perfectly. It could however make sense if Ettmetal was a God Metal using an alkali metal as its physical component, giving it similar properties, but not quite the same ones.

I realize this may not have been what you were actually asking about, but I got a bit excited and wrote it down anyway.

8 minutes ago, Mardragon said:

Have any of the characters referred to their planets by name? Aside from the world-hoppers, I mean. The first time I found out that the mistborn planet was called Scadrial and the Elantrian planet was called Sel was reading Brandon Sanderson's commentary on this site, I believe.

I don't think so. It's possible that Roshar was mentioned by name (outside the map, which is supposed to be an in-universe document), but then it was probably in reference to the continent rather than the planet. I don't think we even know yet if these names are created by worldhoppers or locals.

1 hour ago, Mason Wheeler said:

Wow! Ettmetal is Harmonium?  Pagerunner, why didn't you mention that tidbit to me when we talked last night?!?

I have to wonder, though.  If ettmetal explodes on contact with water, how in the world is anyone supposed to use it for normal Metallic Arts work?

Try to swallow it? KABOOM!

Try to wear it as a bracer?  You're just fine until, for whatever reason, you start to sweat.  (Or it starts to rain.). KABOOM!

Try to spike someone? Blood is full of water. KABOOM!

This all seems a bit... inharmonious.

Well, remember that Harmony is two opposites mashed together. To me it makes sense that his God Metal would be unstable. Why it reacts to water in particular... who knows.

13 minutes ago, skaa said:

Also, knowing which part of a Shardworld's magic wasn't brought about by any of the 16 is extremely valuable when making theories about the cosmere's general laws of magic. This is the kind of stuff people like me live for.

Absolutely. For example, it would explain why it seems to be relatively easy to use Stormlight to fuel other types of magic, compared to many other sources of Investiture.

14 hours ago, Slowswift said:

So... can I ask y'all computery types something? 

If I were to want to learn how to code, how would I go about doing it?

What do you want to do?

The best place to start is probably Python, but it does depend on what sorts of things you want to do. (Note that I actually don't know Python yet, myself.)

And I'd start by first going through the basics using some tutorial. If statements, loops, variables, those sorts of things. If you haven't done anything similar before, you kind of have to get into a certain type of mindset. It's easier for some than others. A lot of my classmates struggled with programming initially, until something just suddenly clicked for them, and it became much easier. I think it's like that for a lot of people.

After you've learned the basics, I would probably recommend looking at something you actually want to create, and then working towards learning everything you need in order to make that thing. It makes programming much more fun if you actually have something to show for it at the end (even if it's bad - and it probably will be). It doesn't have to be anything advanced.

57 minutes ago, Blightsong said:

We still don't know if Stormlight is Adonalsium's investiture, just that the Stormlight originally in the storms was. That could have changed.

True. But it does tell us that Stormlight was part of the Rosharan ecosystem from the beginning (which stuff like the larkins hinted at). That gives us a clue to a lot of things, including the nature of the Listeners.

3 hours ago, Pagerunner said:

• ETTMETAL IS HARMONIUM. It's chemically reactive, not nuclear. (Electrons, not protons.)
• There was a point when the Heralds didn't need to draw Stormlight from gems, although the stormlight-in-gems predates Honor's arrival.

These are really nice. The second one pretty much confirms that Stormlight isn't Honor's or Cultivation's Investiture - which pretty much means it has to be Adonalsium's.

Really glad Ettmetal is Harmonium/Sazedium, with Ett=One and other clues like that actually turning out to be relevant.

Yeah, it's kinda weird. In games that mention that mechanic, they usually mention it after every gym that ups the level, but in SM they only mention it after the first Grand Trial. I don't even know if the limit goes up after every Grand Trial or not.

Regardless, I'm pretty sure it only applies to traded Pokémon, so ones you've caught or hatched yourself should obey anyway. But I dunno, the games are always balanced in a way that makes it really hard to go past those levels in a normal playthrough.

On 2016-10-19 at 1:19 AM, ShadowLord_Lith said:

That's true, and interesting. What I'm trying(and mostly failing) to ask is; since Shards are pieces of adonalsium, and adonalsium wasn't a shard, what was he? I mean, a shard of glass started out as a whole pane of glass what did a shard of adonalsium start out as? What is the 'whole' form of a shard?

Must have missed this thread or forgotten to reply or something.

Ok, I think I understand what you mean. The type of thing that Adonalsium is, I guess? I'm not sure if there would be a good word, really. Shards are just especially large chunks of Investiture, with an Intent. Presumably, the word "shard" is supposed to have been created by in-universe scientists, meaning there could in theory be edge cases and stuff like that. Technically Adonalsium would be a shard, just a very powerful one, but the terminology only exists because the Shattering happened in the first place. If no one knew about the Shattering, shards would have been called something else, something that didn't relate to that event. In that case, it would have been more obvious that Adonalsium would fit into the same category as well.

On 2016-12-02 at 1:32 PM, HonorIsDead said:

IMO this implies heavily that the Seons are a result of something the Elantrians do/did and that it can be replicated in the modern time, not just the once. While ashe seems uncertain he does mention in the past nearly every Elantrian had a seon, and given that the # of elantrians would have been increasing all the time, the only way for a constant supply of seons would be to be creating them some how, either as a by product or on purpose.

Elantrians do die, so their numbers weren't necessarily increasing all the time. Also, Ashe knew that there were many masterless Seons floating around the city, which would increase the chances of her getting one if Raoden really did manage to fix the city. I believe she did get one that way, actually. Lastly, "there was a time" could be very long ago.

So, yeah, I don't think there's evidence either way. I find it likely that the ancient Elantrians used recently created splinters of Devotion as the cores of Seons (making a Seon a splinter + some physical stuff around it, but the consciousness/sentience is the actual splinter). It seems odd to me that they would be created naturally, since they do have that physical "bubble" or whatever around them. Regardless, it's possible that Seons can no longer be created, if all splinters have been used/changed/developed a separate consciousness, etc. But I really don't think we can prove anything either way yet.

33 minutes ago, HonorIsDead said:

there may also be another time in the first era, but I don't know of one

I believe he's also in WoA, in the group of Terris refugees heading south. Elend speaks to him.

I don't think Scadrians would have any big problems while worldhopping (if they knew how), but non-Scadrians would probably have issues staying on Scadrial for longer periods of time (without some sort of magic or something to help them, anyway), since they aren't adapted to the ash.

Also, a bit spoilerish for BoM (era 2) (though Brandon spoke of some of it before it came up in the books):

13 hours ago, Green Hoodie Mistborn said:

Per the Annotations:

Which means, that in theory Denth is somehow in line to the throne because he has the Royal Locks... unless he is one of the "notable exceptions" mentioned. None of the other 5 Scholars have them and I doubt that other Returned children would have them... though maybe? 

We don't know if other Scholars had them, but Shashara was Denth's sister, so probably she had them as well.

I really want to know if Vo was special somehow, other than being the first Returned. I mean, do we even know if he really was the first one? Maybe there were others, but they died quietly without proclaiming any visions or having their friends set up a kingdom that would remember them.

So

Many

Ookla

2 minutes ago, thejopen27 said:

She doesn't have to hide being a KR anymore, but... I get the sense the Elsecallers were a secretive order and I think it would be to Jasnah's advantage to stay in the shadows. Her enemies think she's dead and even if people discover she's alive, it is still to her advantage to keep her powers a secret.

If her main enemies are the Ghostbloods, they would probably figure out what was going on as soon as they realized she was still alive. But I mostly meant that she would share her knowledge with Dalinar and the others. She hid being a Knight from them too.

26 minutes ago, Yata said:

Probably it's a side effect possible from every Returned's son...But in some way you have to "gain it"...Just to say, every Returned's son may be able to gain this feature but you probably need some mental gymnastic to trigger it. In the way I see it, the reason only the Royal line has this (and you may lose it, if you are no more in the royal line) is because the Idris' history teachs this.

I guess that could explain why family lines that split from the succession line don't get the Locks... But it would also mean that royal babies don't have the Locks yet. Maybe their children really are taught, in some way. It is "proof" of their heritage, after all.

18 minutes ago, Pagerunner said:

Once it no longer contains any world-shattering spoilers, I think there's a good chance we'll see it in Arcanum Reloaded or another short story collection. (What other good titles did we come up with for Arcanum Unbounded 2? The Arcanum Strikes Back? Khriss and Nazh's Bogus Journey? Arcanumman 2: The Legend Continues?)

Arcanum Unbounded HD I.8 Final Chapter Prologue

10 hours ago, Knight Radiant Bee said:

But if the reason why it changes based on his mood is because he's Returned, why didn't Lightsong & Co. have the same ability? 

Actually, Returned have much more control over their own body features (including hair) than most of them think. Just like Vasher can make himself not look like a Returned by "suppressing" his Divine Breath, any Returned could change in other ways (and those with the Royal Locks can change things other than their hair to some extent, too). It's obviously different from the Royal Locks because it's something they have to learn rather than being "automatic", so to speak, but they technically do have the ability. I think it's mainly a stronger control over one's Cognitive Image.

We are missing something though. Are the Royal Locks just a feature of children born from Returned, or is it just the Idrian Royal Line? If so, why?

I still play, but mostly passively (though, I've mostly done that for quite a while). And I haven't really taken advantage of the double exp event either, because I've been busy playing Pokémon.