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But the broken explosive mess of it makes it fun. Hearthstone is just a drag.
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That is a fair interpretation. Personally I was interpretting it as coming in the middle of the Weeping when no highstorm was supposed to happen. It was described a couple of times as an event that occurs every 2 years, or every 1000 days. So it could be saying "The 1000th day is when the Everstorm comes". Slightly ruined by there being another empty weeping that occurred after the death rattle and before the Everstorm hit, but that was where my mind immediately went after seeing "1000 days"
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Early in Alloy of Law, Wax identifies Wayne in disguise by his voice (during the wedding reception while Wayne is in character as a server). I guess it's possible he mimics voices in addition to accents, and intentionally used his own voice to clue in Wax, but it feels unlikely to me.
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During my recent reread, I noticed one of the epigraphs from the section about the Diagram, Taravangian was speculating about the truthless and needing a weapon, and I believe even mentioned the possibility of creating a truthless. It's entirely possible that the whole thing, starting with Szeth's exile and ending with the Parshendi assassinating Gavilar, was orchestrated by Taravangian's cult (I forget what we're calling them).
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I fail to see how this is a good summary since "Kaladin is a racist" is probably the single most hotly debated topic throughout the latter half of the thread.
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In addition to the segment quoted above, starting on page 315 of WoK (just transcribing dialogue because I have no idea how to copy text from my Kindle to a computer for easy copy/pasting) Syl: The King's uncle, everyone says he never lies. Your bridgemen even talk about it sometimes. Kaladin: He's lighteyes, that means he lies Syl: But- Kaladin: They're all the same, Syl. The more noble they look, the more corrupt they are inside. It's all an act. Syl: I on't think men were always this way. I... Kaladin: Syl? Were you going to say something? Syl: It seems I've heard men talk about times when there were no lies Kaladin: There are stories, about the times of the Heraldic Epochs, when men were bound by honor. But you'll always find people telling stories about supposedly better days. You watch. A man joins a new team of soldiers and the first thing he'll do is talk about how wonderful his old team was. We remember the good times and the bad ones, forgetting that most times are neither good nor bad. They just are. Kaladin: The stories, they prove it. What happened to the Heralds? They abandoned us. What happened to the Knights Radiant? They fell and became tarnished. What happened to the Epoch Kingdoms? They crashed when the church tried to seize power. You can't trust anyone with power, Syl. Syl: What do you do then? Have no leaders? Kalain: No. You give the power to the lighteyes and leave it to corrupt them. Then try to stay as far from them as possible. The last couple of highlighted lines are the important part for the context of the conversation, as it clearly highlights Kaladin seeing power as the root cause, not the lighteyes themselves. I am pretty sure there was also at least one more passage where there was discussion of what kinds of attrocities would be committed even if Darkeyes were in charge, I want to say it was shortly after Shen joined the crew before Kaladin intervened to stop the rest of Bridge Four from tormenting him. But it is really late (or early depending on perspective) and I am too tired to dig up another quote.
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I'd argue that Kaladin doesn't actually believe Darkeyes are superior. The second half of the definition is critically important, and Kaladin does not fit it. He never expresses a sentiment that Darkeyes are inherently better, or even more honorable. In fact in WoK when it comes up, he mentions if Darkeyes were in charge the same attrocities would happen, just to different people. At his absolute lowest point, his stance was to let the Lighteyes keep all of the power, let that power corrupt them, and do your best to stay far far away. Fact is, Kaladin doesn't have issues with Lighteyes from a racist perspective. He has issues with Lighteyes as a caste, specifically the privilege and power they represent, and what that privelege and power does to people. It's not that having lighter colored eyes makes someone inherently worse, it's that power corrupts. It takes a truly exceptional person to be born into a position of power like that and not be an awful person. Dalinar is an exception. He stands out and is ostracised by others of his social standing because he is so different from the normal Alethi elite. Kaladin not trusting that is perfectly in character, especially with the whole Amaram fiasco in his history.
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Let's not forget that for the first two books of WoT, Rand took up like 90% of the page count. It wasn't until later in the series that the other PoVs really came into prominence. So if SLA really is going to be compared to WoT on a book by book basis, it's already far more diverse PoV-wise, and we can only expect that to continue to grow.
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I agree with Moogle's point. It makes sense. I think the thing that's necessary to make it work is considering Stormlight and Investiture as somewhat different. A body can only hold so much Investiture at once. Stormlight gets converted to Investiture by the Nahel bond. As the bond gets stronger, the conversion rate gets better. I'm going to try to assign some arbitrary numbers to try to make the point more clear. Before swearing the ideal, Kaladin has say a cap of 100 Investiture, for which he requires 100 units of Stormlight to hit. He currently has all 100 units of Stormlight. Swearing the Ideal doubles his efficiency, making it so he only needs 50 units of Stormlight to hit the same cap of 100 Investiture. So once he swears the ideal, he holds the same 50 stormlight to maintain his cap, while expelling the other 50 stormlight (fully half of what he had before), which is seen as an explosion of light. I'd actually guess his cap increases some alongside the efficiency increasing (so he actually is able to hold 150 units of Investiture now, and expels 25 stormlight), which manifests as the significant jump in capability from swearing the ideal. But the general idea is the same. Kaladin now needs less stormlight to hit his investiture cap and the rest turns into the explosion of light.
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My theory is that it's a captured void-spren. Remember, the Parshendi ordered Gavilar's assassination because he was trying to bring their gods back, and had shared his plans with them that night. I don't remember if we saw any first hand indications of what a captured spren looks like in the Eshonai chapters, but I could easily see this being what a powerful evil spren looks like when contained.
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Pattern definitely mentions the possibility of the spren reviving if their knights still lived. I think either pattern or syl mentions at one point that the right person might be able to revive them, followed by a doubting statement along the lines of "I'm not sure the right people even exist anymore". And there was also the bit after Syl comes back where she says "I was only as dead as your Oaths". There might be a couple other tidbits I'm forgetting, but I think that covers it. It's not something you get beat over the head with, but the possibility is definitely displayed as open.
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Question: Do we have a WoB that Lift's Oath is the second one for the Edgedancers and not the third? Because if not, it seems likely to me that Lift's Oath to remember the forgotten is actually the third Oath for the Edgedancers, with the second being yet unknown. I base this on Lift claiming she had bound the "voidbringer" with words (oaths) and her already having a much finer control over her surgebinding than anything Kaladin displayed pre-oath. This is relevant to the topic at hand because while Kaladin always had an urge towards protection, he definitely did not feel inclined to protect everyone, even those they hate. So even if proto-radiants have to live up to/aspire towards the second oath of their order before a spren will get interested in them (something I find dubious to begin with), they definitely do not need to live up to the third. Not right away at least. That said, I do think your interpretation of Lift's oath is overly strict, and most of the other details thus don't really matter. Others posting here have made very solid arguments for Adolin as an Edgedancer that you seem to be discounting out of hand largely due to it conflicting with where you expect the story to go.
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I'm hoping he comes through on the hardcover book.
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Can I be the first here to say "Kaladin Stabbed First"?
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One of the first things Eshonai asks is if Dalinar remembers her. I'm guessing if Dalinar actually saw her face to face it would spark a memory, likely something that would help solve the mystery of Gavilar's death. Since that's destined to hang over our heads for at least another book or two (I'm guessing two books, until Eshonai gets her viewpoint book), Dalinar couldn't be allowed to meet her.
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Do we know how many Truthseekers there were? It could be that they also have a very rare/unique spren, and are few in number. It could be that the two in the middle are the rarest, with the others being divided among honor/cultivation lines.
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edit: I'm beginning to think just using quotes breaks posts. Anyway, in WoK the only weeping we saw was in Kaladin's flashback where he did show that same depressed side and Tien lightening him up. Since this is our first weeping in the current timeline, we don't get to see how Shallan reacts.
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edit: Really wish the forums would stop eating my posts D: Edit2: Okay now the same post got eaten twice. I'm done. tl;dr: I read Warbreaker but remembered nothing about it going in. I didn't recognize Nightblood at all, assumed it was a Voidspren Blade. Don't feel like I lost anything from the story for that assumption, and am sure we'll get an explanation of Nightblood's powers in the next book, and nobody will be lost for not having read Warbreaker.
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Is there anything to indicate that Stormlight (or any other form of Cosmere healing) can cure diseases of the mind?
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Not sure that's a subverted trope. Dragons coming in a bunch of varieties with different breath weapons has been standard in fantasy for 30-40 years (say hi D&D!)
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No. But I do seem to remember reading something about all metals in Scadrial being Invested. So it may be possible a Knight Radiant could consume an allomantic metal from Scadrial and gain Stormlight from it.
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Answer to that Rhysadium question is nice. I wouldn't have guessed that, but it makes sense.
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Page citation? I only remember Vorinism ever mentioning foretelling the future, and Vorinism had some pretty major changes after the Heirocracy (remember: Foretelling wasn't against Vorinism before the Heirocracy. It was after it fell that it became a Taboo, because the Heirocracy used false foretellings to control the populace).
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arcmourn: Word of Brandon is there are several Orders that would agree wholeheartedly with what Adolin did. So no, the context of the killing does not disqualify him from becoming a Radiant (and could well be the catalyst that gets him there).
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We don't have enough evidence to say that regrowing the arm is beyond regular stormlight level. Jasnah's survival seems to indicate that very few things are beyond regular stormlight healing. So far the only real contradicting evidence we have is Kaladin's scars, which could be a cognitive realm issue.
