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I had a dream last night that I ran into Jon Lovitz at a high school dance. He was picking up his kid (I don't even know if he has kids) and I was picking up my niece while we waited I chatted with him about what he was doing now. If he had any new acting gigs. That kind of stuff, and then I suggested he play Breeze in the upcoming Mistborn movie. I even loaned him a copy of Mistborn and called up Sanderson to make the recommendation. LOL. I woke up and now I realize I never read Breeze as anyone else. The thought hadn't even crossed my mind before that dream. But that's exactly who I see thinking back. XD

This is a bit unorthodox of a choice but if he could pull off sagacious wisdom Danny Pudi might not make a bad Sazed.

On ‎5‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 7:10 AM, earthexile said:

People don't like hurting other human beings, so dehumanizing others is a requirement for certain types of civilizations to function. Everybody has done this, they come up with reasons that their hate and suspicion are correct, it's never justified.

Would you mind if I kept this quote and put it on my classroom wall?

On ‎5‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 10:04 AM, Weltall said:

In Awakening, you're basically giving something a counterfeit soul. (But without the skill or knowledge of something like an Essence Mark.)

Does this mean that what Shai did to the Emperor's soul was a form of Awakening, only more precise?

On ‎4‎/‎21‎/‎2018 at 1:19 AM, Yata said:

It's a Last Clap made by the Earth

I hadn't considered The Last Clap. Shoving the answer purely on Intent alone doesn't account for The Last Clap. Because a sword wielder aiming to kill doesn't ever intend for the target to catch the sword at the last moment. The only thing I can think of is perhaps someone tried to cleave through someone a little more powerfully invested, (Maybe Hoid or a Herald) someone who was strong enough to override the intent of the sword wielder. This event was witnessed and then it became a perceived possibility. Or perhaps the stronger intent wins out.  

On ‎5‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 4:53 PM, Spinner16 said:

It has been confirmed that fish in the Purelake are similar to the Aviar. Would it be appropriate to refer to the fish as Caviar?

I giggled harder than was necessary at this.

Along this same vein If something were to happen to the wall surrounding Elantris the city's power would cease as well.

I still think that Kaladin is going to die. Not sure when, where, or how. But the fact that his chapter headings are (in my mind) Bridge four raising their spears to his fallen one. He's got to kick it. I just hope he goes out a hero.

Feruchemy. I'd be a walking encyclopedia who could eat as much as I wanted, go without sleeping for long periods of time, control when I got sick, decide when I became heavy as a whale or fast as a cheetah. There are so many possibilities with Feruchemy one just has to put in the time.

I've always pictured Mancala beads. Only clear with a little gemstone inside.

15 hours ago, ljósmóður said:

I love Brandon's work - and, right now, he's probably my favourite because everything licks along at such a pace and I just love the sprawling epicness of the Cosmere.

Best? I suppose it depends how that's defined. I have a Literature degree so I've covered a fair span of what would be considered classically 'best' some of which I loved (Jane Austin, Shakespeare) some of which I thought was massively overhyped (Charles Dickens). But Jane Austin, Shakespeare and Brandon Sanderson are so vastly different in style, scope, intention - it's virtually impossible to compare them really. 

Controversially for this thread, I LOVE JK Rowling - and, like Sanderson, her books represent comfort and pure escapism for me with many, many re-readings in my life. Margaret Atwood is another writer I adore and whose work (well, novels - I'm not so hung up on poetry as a genre generally) I try to keep up with (although I have lapsed in recent years). But, her books don't lend themselves to frequent re-reads or a sense of escapism.

Harry Potter was the first fantasy series I ever got into. I also adore J.K. Rowling. And I get super excited when any of my students start reading it because then I can revisit the world through their eyes and I end up loving it all over again. XD

On ‎4‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 2:43 AM, podman36 said:

All this to say that I think you sometimes need to know a person more personally than internet articles and interviews to decide if someone’s a “horrible person” or not.

I could not have said this better than this quote right here. I loved Ender's Game. It was my favorite novel when I was in High School. Right before I started reading the rest of the series I had other opinions of him being thrust on me by people who felt personally attacked by the some of Card's beliefs. I have mad respect for the man and his writing ability. After reading the Shadow series I realized how important family is to him. I think he takes a lot of pride in his family.

I know I may get a lot of flack for this as apparently he is an atrocious person. Orson Scott Card is the only other author I can think of where I've actively sought out all of his work. My reasoning is his personal belief system does not make him a bad storyteller. Crafting a story is a skill and Card definitely has it. I was introduced by Ender's Game of course and I held it as a standalone novel for several years. I didn't care much about the future of the series. I eventually found out that Ender's Shadow was the same time frame as the first book so I gave it a shot. I loved it. I think I lean more towards the Shadow series and its theme of the beauty of a family. The Ender sequels were pretty awesome in the way they introduced me to the concept of alien life forms that are so bizarre we have to categorize them as a different type of sapience. I plowed through Card's works at a pace equal to that of Sanderson's. (It really helped that nearly all of the books are already obtainable.) Card, despite being a terrible human being is my number two behind Sanderson. So if you can get past that whole racist, sexist, whole mess of other -ists, thing he really is a fantastic author. If you don't feel like supporting someone reprehensible at the very least do yourself a service and borrow the books from a library instead of spending money on them. LOL.

I would bet an emerald broam that it has to do with intent. So much of the magic can only be performed with the right intent. My bet is that you can stick a shardfork/shardblade/shardspear in to anything as far as you intend to. If you intend the shardblade to be left standing half stabbed into the ground to be left as an awesome symbol of your shoving off of an oppressive pact you made with a piece of god, it can totally do that for you. If you want it to cleave all the way through your intended target it can do that too.

26 minutes ago, mek293 said:

Also does anyone have any more info about the release date or news on the Apocalypse Guard?

Sadly, as I understand it Apocalypse Guard is on hiatus. While working on it he realized it just wasn't working. He has another Reckoners Universe  work floating around in his mind with Mizzy being the main character. So we may have that to look forward to in a few years.  He may still go back to Apocalypse Guard too though if he can figure out what needs to be fixed. And if anyone can it's Sanderson.

I am so excited for you. Already loving Sanderson as much as you do after reading Reckoners. You've only just begun my friend. I would also recommend reading Mistborn next as it did for me what Reckoners did for you. I was completely hooked. Glad to know Brandon has recruited you.

Mine is the three letters in Oathbringer. Especially Harmony's. I lost it when I got to that part.

My talent would be being in the wrong place.

Pros: Being in the room when bad guys are discussing plans/doing secret things. Locating enemy HQ's.

Cons: Wrong classroom all of the time. Seeing things I can't unsee. (akin to Gob Bluth). Underwater when I don't have my scuba gear.

Interestingly, this is also my "Epic" weakness, as I really do have recurring dreams of being in the wrong classroom without my schedule to tell me where I should actually be. LOL

Another good rule of thumb is that Earth no matter what state it is in will never be in the Cosmere. So if a book features Earth, it will not be cosmere.

12 hours ago, Weltall said:

Relatedly, he's mentioned that there will be dramatic effects on the Scadrian economy from the ability to acquire aluminum cheaply, even moreso than the impact on Earth when the same thing happened.

I am picturing Wakanda from the new Black Panther movie.

8 hours ago, Rainbow Waffles said:

I have no idea who that is but I guess that is kinda the point

 

I remember Old Chapps! I totally thought he was someone important. The fact that he could hear things others couldn't. If I remember correctly Nightblood didn't kill him either which further led to my paranoia that I was missing something about Old Chapps. XD

Great choice of Character though. The only other character I can think of who is seemingly unimportant and fleshed out as much as Old Chapps is the purelake dude who meets with Blunt, Grump, and Thinker.

Have skycolors been mentioned in the Graphic Novel version? I don't recall ever having heard of them before. I only read the first graphic novels worth of the prose version.

2 hours ago, Calderis said:

They were published, and I believe still are on Brandon's website, though I don't know in what section anymore.  There a a few of them, all of of similar length, but only for a a few of the Aons. 

If you search Arcanum for "Aon&meaning" you should pull up all of them. 

Thanks so much! I found that really interesting. A little bit of extra info from the Cosmere is always nice.

1 hour ago, Calderis said:

@Yata yeah, some do, and I agree on the reasoning. The only specific one that I can think of is Aon Omi.

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Meaning

In its most basic form, Omi is used to represent love and benevolence. It is a common root Aon for a wide variety of words, including affection, care, passion, piety, zeal, and some synonyms of loyalty.

A complex Aon with strong symmetry, the Aon has often been used as an example of balance, and even perfection. The great AonDor scholar Enelan of the fourth century called it “The most perfect of Aons, fully incorporating the base of Aon Aon and spinning it into a complex icon that is artful and complicated, yet somehow basically simple at the same time.”

In later centuries, the symbol has come to mean not only love, but divinity as well, an association created by the Korathi Church’s appropriation of the Aon. Many Korathi devout also regard the symbol as representing the potential unification of all mankind through peace, temperance, and love.

History and Use

Aon Omi is best known as the official symbol of the Korathi church in Arelon. It was chosen by Korath (known as KoWho in JinDo) himself to represent the church and God. Scholars of the time say that Korath made the decision late in his life, after decades spent preaching his interpretations of the tenets of Shu-Keseg (which eventually became the Korathi religion) in Arelon and Elantris itself.

The choice was shocking to many, as the young Korathi devout saw the Elantrians and their worship as a competing religion. Their Aons, the basis for Elantrian magic an power, were then regarded as heathen symbols. Korath was always bothered by this competitive streak in his believers, and it is widely accepted that he picked an Aon to represent God and his religion as an attempt to show that all people were acceptable beneath the blanket of the Korathi doctrines. He himself called the Aon a “Thing of Beauty” and asked an Elantrian smith of his acquaintance to craft a silver pendant for him bearing the symbol.

That event, and the subsequent adoption of Aon Omi by the Korathi church, led to the odd relationship between the Elantrians and the Korathi religion which found root in their homeland. (Though, following Korath’s death, his right hand man and follower ShanVen moved the religion’s center of operations to Teod instead, where the young monarchy there had embraced Shu-Korath as its official religion.)

Over the years, many other Aons have been adopted by the Korathi religion, but this one–Aon Omi–has remained their most powerful and important symbol. It is used extensively in Korathi religious services, and pendants bearing Aon Omi are commonly worn by the devout. (Many simply call them Korathi pendants, or Korathi religious pendants.) Such pendants are commonly exchanged during Korathi wedding services. (See the end of ELANTRIS the novel for an example.)

Many Korathi priests now look at the use of Aons by their religion as symbol of the potential unity of all mankind, when different beliefs, sects, and cultures will be drawn together through sincere affection for one another.

Naming and Usage in ELANTRIS

As can be expected from its meanings, Aon Omi is a common root Aon for names in Arelon, particularly among those who follow the Korathi religion.

The most obvious word using Omi as a root is the name Domi itself, the Korathi word for God. This usage did not become common until the seventh century; before then, the Jindoeese name Dashu was used by the Korathi, and the Elantrians preferred a word using Aon Daa as its root. In an interesting exchange, the Aonic word ‘Domi’ eventually became a loan word back to Jindoeese, where the word DoMin eventually came to mean ‘god.’

The head priest of the Korathi chapel in Kae, Father Omin, also uses this Aon in his name. (As a side note, like many Korathi priests, Omin chose a new name for himself once he joined the priesthood. In his youth, he went by the name of Elenan.) Father Omin wears a jade pendant of Aon Omi.

Eondel wears a pendant of Aon Omi, his sky blue. Sarene wears one of green and gold, while Raoden wears one of black.

AonDor

Aon Omi is a powerful Aon, and before the fall of Elantris could perform powerful magics. When drawn it puts out a powerful and pure white light; any who are touched by this light find their negative emotions wiped away, replaced by a sense of serenity and peace. It is difficult indeed to maintain a sense of hatred while Aon Omi is in force.

So powerful is this Aon, however, that using it requires much of the Elantrian who draws it. The Aon will be weak unless the one drawing it feels a sincere affection for those around him, making this Aon very difficult to use in tense situations. This strange requirement has fascinated AonDor practitioners for centuries, as it is one of the few Aons which requires something other than skill in drawing from its Elantrian.

Aon Omi is also used in other places in AonDor equations. It can be used to tie other Aon chains together, and is also a weaker power modifier, if used in the correct way.

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Where did you get this bit of trivia about the history of Aon Omi? I don't remember ever having read it before. Are there similar ones for other Aons?

My first Sanderson book was Mistborn. I have never really cared for traditional fantasy books with elves, wizards, dwarves, and dragons. My roommate in college recommended it because Sanderson "could really write magic and doesn't include traditional fantasy races". I read Final Empire and I was hooked. I had no idea the rabbit hole I had dipped into though.

Also I have got to add that upon finishing The Hero of Ages I, at age 27 or so, actually stood up on my bed punched the sky and screamed I was so happy with the turnout. It's still my favorite ending to book.