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This is the best definition about that problem Just a week ago me and a friend of mine began to talk over "Star Wars is a Fantasy set in the Space"(my point) and "It can't be a fantasy, because there isn't magic" (his point). Of course for him the Force isn't magic, without any real reason (to be honest there were reasons but they were quite stupid).

This is pretty important to me (I writed the same thing in another post), but I noted something weird in the Stormfather's words, He says: "I am a sliver of the Allmighty" the use of "Sliver" is quite oddly here. It's possible that he is a real Sliver because the Tanavast's Ghost was a Sliver (but I don't think) or maybe the Rider of the Storm tried to pick up Honor's Shard when Tanavast died and Odium make him drop it and run (but also this option don't seems likely to me).

If I didn't remember wrong in the Canon timeline. Hoid find the Well before Vin and when she arrived, He already left.

Ruin died pretty quickly, therefore a "natural death" is a long an slow suffering for a Shardholder. But Odium, instead is very quickly to kill another Shard. He have to kill the Holder and then when the Shard is without Holder, He may Splintered it.

Yes because for the Stormfather calling it Honor or Tanavast was the same thing. But a Shard (not the holder) can't leave a Cognitive's Shadow, It hasn't any "mind" to leave behind. What we saw until now was always Shardholder's Cognitive Shadow. Kelsier was a Scadrial guy, thererefore he had both Preservation& Ruin's Investiture (at the moment we may began to say Harmony's Investiture) as everyone on that planet. When he died, while his cognitive shadow was born, and if "take investiture from his soul" the newformed Ghost will be made by Harmony's Investiture. Then Kelsier's Ghost Ascended through picking Preservation and after some time drop the Shard to Vin. Therefore now Kelsier's Ghost became a Preservation's Sliver and his Preservation's Investiture greatly grows. But He has still some Ruin's Investiture inside of himself. Therefore I suppose He can't be called "Being pure preservation" (also The Lord Ruler has still some Ruin's Investiture).

Sure unless you are quite far away from Shade (for example in a Town) protected by Silver. You have to be quite near to a Shade and break the Simple Rules to put yourself in Danger. It's the reason for the Cityfolk to understimate the Rules and the Shades.

Sazed states that the only attribute you can store while you sleep is Wakefulness.

@Confused, your post has a heavy assumption. That the Tanavast's Ghost is made (or carry) Honor's Investiture. Of course is possible, but not sure. For example we may think that a Cognitive's Shadow is made by some rest of the Soul's Investiture (and for example the Kelsier's ghost was made by Preservation&Ruin's Investiture) and in many Shardworld, people aren't created by Shards and their Souls are made by Adonalsium's Investiture, I suppose. If we take this possibility as true, Tanavast as nice (He bought Hoid drinks once) Yolish guy would have his Soul made by Adonalsium's Investiture and this fact may be the "bridge" between his Ghost and an Adonalsium's Spren like the Rider of the Storm (same origin after all). We don't even know if the Tanavast's Ghost was a Sliver of Honor, Tavast himself would be a Sliver, but we can't say nothing for his Shadow.

without deep knowledge of WorldHopping, maybe they have not many choice. And also the Threnody is quite a decent living place if you are not an adventurer or a dumb one.

Yes, I realized that just after post the previous message. Probably the Breath is used as fuel for the DivineBreath's bit. But if this is true, maybe Vivenna with many Breath may change her form more deeply (A full Returned form with 2000 Breaths or more ?).

Probably it's because of the solid nature of Atium as Metal ("Investiture in solid form does a specific thing"). The Shardpool's Investiture (that in the Liquid form have Most power of every other form) is still part of Ruin (or Preservation if we talk about the Well) and of course doesn't gain sentience.

Maybe to Shattered a Shard, you have need some kind of "surgeon-like" attack, not a "hulk-smash" attack.

I understand your points (both Moogle and DreamEternal) and you may be right (I am not very sure, but I find possible). Meanwhile I catch what about the Stormfather seems to me very, strange (but I don't know if is better to start a new Topic about): If the Rider of the Storm became Stormfather at the death of Honor, mergind with his Cognitive's Shadow. And Tanavast's Death was very very after the KR's born. This mean that a the beginning the Bondsmith was bonding with the Rider of the Storm, if this is true that mean that also the other possible great Adonalsium-Spren may be possible Bondsmith Spren.

I was very unclear, sorry What I want to say was: In the Cosmere's History Adonalsium was both Splintered (He left some Adonalsium-Spren after all) and Shattered ( the 16 Shards), therefore there is a true difference between the two type of "Breaking events" (Shattering and Splintering) also with the same Entity (Adonalsium). Then I speculated about "Why Was Adonalsium shattered ? while after him all the shards was only Splintered". My idea is that Adonalsium was already an heterogeneous being and was more easy to divide his distinct parts (the Shards). While a Shard is a more homogeneous being and againt a "breaking force" it simply "explode" in many tiny pieces (Splinters) because it has not any specific "weak point" where the Breaking Force may release his power. It's like breaking a chain where some ring are very weak, the chain will be break along the "weak ring" and you have 2 shorter chains. If the chain was a perfect chain (no weak ring), to break it, all the ring will be heavy deformed and probably at the end you have something like many piece of broken pieces of twisted metal. Edit: A more Cosmere example, it's like what happened in the Shattered Plain, the land was broken in many twisted pieces, while the Oathgate's plateaus that have already "weak spot" was cut along that Spot.

But also this possibility has problems, of example if the Stormfather is the only Spren of the whole Bondsmith Order, this mean that He suffered from multiple Oath-breaking (possible three only during the Recreance). I know, He is powerfull but I find unlikely that he may survived to all this. Much more something in the timeline of the Recreance and of the Stormfather existence seems a bit strange, but I can't explain exactly what's wrong with them .

I was a fan of the Stormfather-Nightwatch-Cucicesh as Bondsmith's Spren. But recently I understand how much "unique" a Being like the Stormfather is. He is probably an Adonalsium-Spren (Rider of the Storm) merged is some way with Tanavast's Shadow. At the moment I find very unlikely that other Stormfather-like Spren exist on Roshar (unless the Bondsmith may bond simply with smart Adonalsium-Spren).

Breaking the Oath may kill the Godspren indeed. But we can't say if the other 2 are safe now. As far as we know, it's possible that only a single Bondsmith was active at the time of Recreance and the Stormfather was the only victim. Of course if the others GodSpren died Dalinar will be the only Bondsmith during the modern Desolation.

It possible indeed. Maybe the "DivineBreath's bit" that give her the Royal Locks is part of her Breath and therefore without it, She is stuck without any Hairshifting ability. Edit: I though about and if the Royal Locks was inside her Breath, she would probably lose during the Breath giving to Vasher. Therefore I am wrong.

Well if you want take a long route, you may visit Sel. There is tons of Investiture on its Cognitive Realm, maybe too much for any safe use (and of course you must have a method to use it) and it isn't the best birthplace in the Cosmere (and my mother complain still about my birth )

But Confused made a good point about the extreme difference about Shattering-Splintering. Adonalsium before the Shattering, Invested/Creates all the Cosmere and Splintered himself giving birth of Adonalsium-Spren. Therefore there is a deep difference between the two "breaking event". Of course is possible that a Shard hasn't the variery of Intent needed to be Shattered and can only be Splintered but this it's not meaning that Shattering and Splintering are the Same thing (and of course Shattering a Shard would result in a "Shard's Shard" ), If I remember right BS is very vague about the Individuality of a single Shard in a whole like Harmony or Adonalsium. Therefore is possible that also inside Adonalsium his 16 parts was quite distinct and "easy" to separate, while now inside a Shard there is more "cohesion" and the force needed, would simply do the shard to piece (Splintering). If this is true probably the only being in the Cosmere that can generate a new Shattering (a little one) is Harmony (and maybe the Dor through some theory).

Probably also the Bondsmith can't be the "mysterious Order" because is states that the Stormfather himself suffered the Oath-breaking but He survived.

Returneds aren't just dead people choose by Endowment, but they are "dead people who want to change the future choose by Endowment". Probably it isn't just about "a good people is dead, I must Return him" but more about their "useness that Endowment may find in the right Deadmen in the right time/spot".

The God King is a Returned like any other in the Court, the only difference is about the thousands of Breaths that He has. Every Returned can have a children through the method used for the God King but of course only few members of the Iridescent Tone know about the truth. Is unclear if the method knowed by the priests is the only method, and the priest themself don't know if Vo used that method to have his offspring.

Possible, but it may be possible also that they aren't true brothers, maybe the cult of Returned that picked them as forming "family of Returneds".

If I remember right, the Iriali as also the same Alethi's feature. Their hair show how much their blood is pure. Through different color.