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  1. Zas678
    Yes I did. I used the Intoxicant I got last round to try to get Elodin lynched instead of me. It would've worked when I did it, but then Mail voted for me as well. I figured it was a long shot, but I thought if Elodin was an Eliminator and died, it would clear my name pretty well. I think it's odd that the Traitors didn't make a kill last night. Did they forget? We're they passing or using an item? I know most will assume that it wasn't done because I did an action, but that's not the case. I currently have no items. Edit- I'm also still suspicious of Elodin. Maybe the reason there wasn't a kill was because I believe Elodin was listed as the target for the Shades to vote for.
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    The itemless people aren't the onIy ones to watch for. People who were supposed to give to someone who died could've given a kill order for the person instead of an item action. Elodin did not give me an item last night. Joe's target was lynched. And Sart is itemless. I'm not the only person who could've done the kill! I did end up getting an item from Mckees corpse, so I will be able to make an item trade this round. Elodin says that he gave to McKee, because he didn't update his action. But why where you giving to McKee in the first place? That seems odd to me. Edit- I'll go through the thread in the morning to look at Elodins posts and openings for opportunity.
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    Lopen I tried making a list of who would be clear to do what when, but there where far too many holes. That's why I tried making a plan so that everyone gets an item rather than trying to look at the 6 different holes. If you really want, I can still post what I have. And Elodin, you pass to me. You wrap around to me. And Joe, since Lopen gave an item to Bard, give your item to Lopen. That will make sure that he has an item. Edit- Between Bard, Sart, Mckeedee and I, I'm most suspicious of either Mckeedee or Bard, and since there's already a majority on Bard, I'll go with him. Lopen, what is it specifically that you find suspicious about me?
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    Lopen, I know you're suspicious of me because of Aman's death, and then about being suspicious of crewmembers since, but really, I was picking one of two names, and I figured that Sart tying up the vote wasn't a very eliminator move, so Sart's vote was likely to be a good a choice that I could make. And I'm sorry that I haven't been able to pass items to claim actions. Okay. After rereading the thread, this is what I've come up with: The Eliminators seem to be targeting people with items. They seem to be hoping that by killing them, they'll be able to get a new item, and that could possibly be a knife to get them another kill. They really want a second kill (or third) since they likely only have 2 people left on their team. We really don't want them to have two kills, so here's what I'm proposing. There are a few people more now that have an item, due to item redistribution. We also have a few people that have 2 items. There'll still be someone stuck outside of the circle, but there's not really anything we can do about it, unless someone wants to reveal an extra item. Here's the list that I've made of current itemage: Elodin-2 Joe-2 Mail-1 Winter-1 Lopen-1 Sart-0 Mckee-1 Bard-0 Zas-0 So, my plan is that everyone give "up" on the chain. Elodin to me, Lopen to Winter, Winter to Mail, etc. However, we'll treat Joe different. Joe, instead of giving to Elodin, give to Bard instead. And Mail, rather than giving to Joe, give to Sart instead. That way, everyone should start with an item next round. Anyone who doesn't, we can look at those who either currently don't have an item, or to those who "forgot" last minute. There's a chance we end up with the Eliminators giving to each other, but that won't work out for long, if someone at the end of the chain ends up getting shortchanged. And Shades, my vote would be to go for one of the people who currently doesn't have an item. They're the ones who won't be prevented from striking this round. Please post here if you plan to do it, or if you think we should do something different. Or if my item count is off. If it is, we'll figure something else out.
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    I still don't have an item, so I can't account for my action. If you guys want this to change, send me an item and I can start being in the cycle. I don't think that Mckeedee giving Lopen the knife is necessarily a sign that he's not a Traitor. It's possible to have Traitors that started with or passed knives just to appear innocent. I'm probably going to edit this post in a second to put some larger analysis in it.
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    Personally, I'd love to be in the item passing circle if it doesn't mess things up.
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    I'll also go for Silver Dragon. . I'm also currently suspicious of Conq, with his late item claim, Lopen, with both his forgotten item shift, and possible forgotten eliminator kill? And now he doesn't want to trade with others to use his knife? Worrisome. I'm also a little suspicious of Elbereth. Thanks mostly to her, the item trading is dominating the conversation, rather than the lynching and suspicions. Elbereth, I want to hear your suspicions.
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    I still have no item, so I am still unable to pass one. That is interesting that there was no GB kill. Very interesting. I'll post more later tonight. I still have no item, so I am still unable to pass one. That is interesting that there was no GB kill. Very interesting. I'll post more later tonight.
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    Conq, why did you not give away your item last round? You were active. And it's possible that Elb is an eluminator, but I think that would be more likely if Elb was trying to contain all the information herself. The bad thing about the list is that it kind of stifles discussions about the lynch. It's too bad, but I think it's valuable enough to keep it around.
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    So I'm very glad that the lynch proved fruitful. I wasn't given an item last night, so I still don't have an item. I have a question for Ripple- can you give an item the same cycle you receive it? So if I was getting a knife today, could I give it away this same turn? That would allow us to get through a lot more people, especially if we have limited resources.
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    Sorry Bugsy. I didn't see you there, and just barely got back on. As for a day 1 lynch... I'll go with Amanuesis. Sorry, but this is one of the ways we get information.
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    I for one don't have any items. And yes, I meant 1st day lynch, not 1st day lunch. Bugsy, I'm still waiting to hear from you....
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    Bugsy. Haven't heard anything from you yet. Also, Joe, I'm immensely relieved you changed your vote on me. I am personally in favor of a day 1 lunch. It's the only way to really get information, since this does seem to be a very analytical game, as qfs tend to be.
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    I guessed you had a painrial because you had protected Nyali from a GB attack earlier. And yes, Twei gave me her stuff, which included a painrial and an emotion bracelet, but the painrial disappeared, so now I have the emotion bracelet. And now with Wilson naming me her heir, I should get her items to get in running to be King! That being said, Stink probably has a lot better chance than I do.
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    I'm in. I'll be Zas, a worldhopping tourist that thought that Shades sounded like "fun".
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    Yeah, for some reason, I've just got this nagging feeling that Wilson is a GB. I don't know why....
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    So we have something happening here. First off, was the shardblade on Twei an attack through a Soulcaster redirect, or a direct attack? Wilson, I believe that was your Shardblade? Unless you passed it along to someone else. And I assume that it was either DC's missing Shardplate or Wilson's that was attacked. That included a GB attack, which.... doesn't make sense. If Wilson was a GB, why attack herself? If she's not, why would the GB try to "clear" Wilson by attacking her? EDIT- And Stink, where was your Grandbow attack?
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    I would also like to join the spec doc.
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    So if we're going to go after Wilson, I think we need to try and hit her hard. She potentially has two kills, and so we need to hit her with everything we got. And if anyone's worried about what a GB knowing what you have and targeting you for it, I think it might be a good idea if we set up actions for items we might receive from people we're not in communication with.
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    Wilson? Any response?
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    SIgh. I miswrote. Sorry. Let me repost it the way I meant to write it: And as much as it pains me, Kynedath, Wilson. Why? Four things. One is the logic that Nyali used above. It doesn't seem like there's anyone left to have a Soulcaster to redirect your Shardblade kill. Either everyone's items are accounted for, or everyone's actions are accounted for. Except for Twei, but I agree with Nyali that she'd have to be playing a really really long game in order to be an Eliminator. Two is the fact that there wasn't a GB kill these past two nights. You said that your three actions were taken up last night. That makes sense. You guarded yourself (potentially against Stink), attacked Nyali (believing her to be undefended), and used your spanreed, apparently. So that's why there wasn't a GB kill last night. But what about Night 8? Why wasn't there a GB attack then? Easy. You told me why in our PMs. You told me that you planned to attack Kyne on Night 8 with your Shardblade, but you thought there was another 24 hours in the kill, and you forgot to submit your night actions. Three is the meta-game. You and I used the meta-game to look at the distribution of experience among eliminators earlier in the game. We used this to argue that it was likely that Burnt (someone with a few games), and either Macen or Kyne were the remaining Eliminators. But since then, we learned that Alvron was an Eliminator. That makes the whole group of Eliminators (Alvron, Kasimir, Lopen, and Orlok), very experienced players who have played a multitutde of games with Mail. Perhaps, for Mail's last game for two years, he wanted ti put them all on a team to see what happened. It seems to me that the person that fits that group isn't Kynedath- it's you. Fourth is the admitted fact that this ties up the lynch so that there's a fifty-fifty chance of me making it out of here. I really hope that Kyne's not the last Eliminator. But if he is, you can attack him with your Shardblade tonight, and he'll be gone, and we'll have won. But if we lynch him today, and he's not the last Eliminator, that just gets things closer for you.
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    Two things. One, Mail, Twei canceled her vote on me last page when she said that she realized that I only had one item, the painrial. Two, Nyali, why can't Kynedath have both the Shardplate and the Soulcaster? You said that due to some communication with Mail he said that wasn't a possibility? EDIT- on the pathway of Heirring Half-Shards. I get a painrial, and I give up the Half-Shard. My half-shard goes to Nyali, Twei, my heir, who already has a painrial, so it bounces to her heir Wilson. Wilson has Shardplate, so it bounces either to her heir, or to someone random if she in un-heired or her heir is dead. So that means that either Nyali is Wilson's heir, or Wilson's heir is dead. EDIT 2- Or I suppose, it could bounce some more. Wilson's heir bounces to someone to Nyali. Wilson, who is your Heir? EDIT 3- Fixed Edit 1 by crossing out Nyali and putting Twei.
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    My heir is Twei. I'll post more about Wilson in a bit.
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    No Kyne, the reason why I want you to be lynched is that you've been deemed the target for 4? 5? Attacks, and you're still around. If we don't lynch you today, we'll have to do attack you two more times to discover your orientation. You were one of the few that was able to make the GB kill a few rounds back. Stink, what's your opinion? And Twei, how did you know I have a painrail if it was blocked? Edit- It seems the only Twei can know is if either Twei or someone in contact with Twei is a spy. They would've seen that I had one item, and it was a painrail. Is that right Twei?
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    That's a good question Twei, and one I'd like to know. I apparently got it after night 9 (though Maill missed it till last night). I decided to keep the painrail rather than the half shard, as so far the half shard hadn't done anything for me. I then used it to try and protect you Twei, but it got blocked by Macen. It turns out I didn't need it. As to where it came from, I have 3 guesses. One, Nyali decided that she didn't want it because she had a different protection, so she passed on it and I randomly received it. Two, Alvron named me as an heir to try and cause confusion. Three, someone randomly decided to give me one (like Wilson did with her Shardblade). My guess is one, though Nyali would have to confirm that. As for votes? Kynedath. Let's get him settled for good. Edit- Nyali, I think that the half shard you got was mine. As I said above, I gave it up for the painful. And I was unclear above about actions. I committed actions on Night 9 (protecting myself). My only action (trying to protect Twei) on Night 10 was blocked. Edit 2- I suppose another option is Alvron didn't set an heir, so it got randomly given. That seems unlikely to me.
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