Darkness Ascendant

Because capitalism.

Oh yes, I'm all for discovery writing RP characters. (Always do that).

All of these points are great, personally I find that the involvement of the GM in the game itself fosters activity, familiarity, inclusion and comfort. Kind of like what Joe and Aonar did during their whatsitcalled...Gunnerkrigg court game. I kind of can't wait to GM, you all are going to be crapped on pretty badly by yours truly. I'd write an essay but I have tendonitis.

Oh I thought we were bantering..

Don't worry, it'll be a different Mesa. And a different one next year.

Wyrm specifically made it clear in thread that he reversed his ruling in the middle of the game, from being able to talk in any medium (a ruling he made mostly because Orlok ased if he and I could speak about it while in person/over Facetime) to only in PM (a ruling because of all this). As far as I can tell, you’ve been active/paying attention all game, and should have known that - so there is no logical reason to say that game talk shouldn’t be in a group chat when at that time it was perfectly allowable. Why, in fact, would Wyrm have made that call if this incident had not happened as stated? And finally, the basis of Seonid’s and your claim is that Orlok bussed Rae in order to gain trust to lynch Lemon. What? He bussed Rae to lynch Lemon. Why does that make any sort of sense? Lemon at ome point was going to be lynched even without this. Rae wasn’t accruing suspicion (as far as I know) from anyone but himself and Wilson. Why would he need to bus Rae, and why would he use the capital from said bus to lynch Lemon? Lemon isn’t the most active or dangerous player to him - why not lynch someone likely to be protected, or actually dangerous - me, or Wilson, or Aonar? Why not lynch you, DA, since you’re suspicious of him? Your proposed actions didn’t make sense even without Orlok dropping out, and given that it’s now pretty clear he’s good (which I’m also fairly certain of, given close interaction with him), that seems very much like trying to frame him because he’s dangerous. (Corollary that makes sense, but doesn’t provide much evidence - Rae not wanting to kill Orlok, but to test herslef/be nice to him through not killing him until late game?) Anyway. @Darkness_ Mentioning supicion is now pushing for a lynch? Well then in that case I've been pushing for a lynch on a few people. I can't remember exactly, but from the times I have skimmed over the entire thread, he never urged or pushed a lynch on her until about Cycle 4 at the least. There's also a difference between live chat and forum PMs *shrugs. And to be fair, I've only been paying proper attention since my suspicions on Rae were basically proven to be correct. But yeah, point taken (However I never implied that it was illogical, only that it could be an excuse for "elim doc"). No, I don't think my theory was that he bussed Rae to lynch Lemon. Lemon indeed had been acting suspicious, which I have commented on, and this was merely taken advantage of through Rae's lynch. And I doubt a Lemon lynch would had happened unless there was nothing better. Or you know. Rae had converted you all, and Wilson had been speaking of suspicion on Orlok, but that dropped since the Lemon/Rae push *shrugs. And maybe its because I don't usually play like this? I wouldn't class myself as "dangerous" as much as can be predicted. And driving a lynch on someone who is consideed dangerous, and then them turning out to be village, could backfire catastrophically. Lemon was an easy target and Elims just need to bide time *shrugs. It made sense to me. No, I didn't, I made a guess seeing as you all also seemed to be in on it, at the very least privately through PMs, if not being there (in the group chat). And I also said that it I though it wasn't manipulation at all, and that by my theory, you all had been going for some intricate play. As for Seonid I haven't been in touch with him save on one cycle where I attempted to contact a bunch of people in an attempt to get organised. I have considered him being an elim, however seems as though he is acting on his own. Well, to be fair I often express whatever suspicions I'm having, as I often find them useful to come back to later should something happen to make them more viable. As for pinging inactive; @Shqueeves, I've spoken to you in PMs and know you're around on the discord, care to join discussion? @StrikerEZ You're back from your band trip now, have you caught up on the threads? @Paranoid King You seem to have fallen off the face of the earth Any thoughts? @DarianHammersmith Don't want to see your first SE game go to waste, come join the intrigue. @Davus You seem to be fairly new as well, have any thoughts on the game? (did I miss anyone?)

Mesa no know what you speak of.

I'm going by the theme I decide last time

Those were fight scenes? Huh, I thought they were playing Deer Hunter while blindfolded. Well duh, I'm kind of far away.

Heh, she was cringey If she was more badchull I'd respect her, instead she felt like she was stuck in her own bubble tbh.

:/ I guess that makes my theory fall apart. Whatever it was, it must have been bad >.> Thanks Orlok, whatever happened, hopefully it clears up for you.

Oh my god @Mestiv That sounds horrid, hope you pull through, know that we're with you. Aw now theres no need for that. *hugs, go have an icecream.

Lemon's behaviour I have already commented upon, I felt like she were more playing as AgitatedVillager!Lemon, than UnthinkingEliminator!Lemon (which I don't think is a thing). I never had any thoughts or suspicions myself (as I told you), and privately thought that the outcome of this lynch may help piece some things together. The way the lynches have progressed throughout the game with you and Wilson driving a few lynches in retrospect awfully feel like Might I remind you that I have been pushing for a lynch on Rae and have been expressing my suspicions since the beginning of the game? You also began pushing on Rae and Lemon to be elim tandem, and knowing you have been in touch with Rae, and the way that Rae had been behaving the cycle she had stopped bothering pretending not to be the Seer, I felt as if she was too joyful? And her votes on Lemon have always felt off to me. "Darkness, that you claim knowledge of the manipulation when I gave absolutely none to the thread. How do you know what I was referring to?" Simple, there was no manipulation. From your messages we know that you have been in touch with Rae in PMs (and messenger). You said that That's where it clicked to me. Case in point being Which is why I believe this all to be false. You were never manipulated. You've all just been manipulating us. "Messenger" could just be an Elim Doc, as it is to my understanding that game talk shouldn't be taken to a group chat. You and @little wilson changed your votes from Lemon, to Rae, halfway through the turn where Rae was lynched first, going with the rest of us. Throughout this game, propositions have been made about meta-gaming. And you, yourself have said that; Reverse psychology in my opinion. It is a perfectly good point to make, but in this instance I believe it served you well to make it. Rae also frequently chats with you, El and Wilson. If I was Seer, I'd rather pick someone who I know I would work well with and would be able to make a slontzein good team. (Too much stranger things ). Which is why I believe Wilson and Elbereth to be the remaining eliminators if my theory is correct.

Lol, or maybe because the Tineye is dead . I can see that. But I had always been concerned with the fact you "trusted" what came out of Rae's mouth. Heck, I'm annoyed I trusted you despite my own misgivings. And in my mind, lynching you is the only move I can see. You were always just way too confident with Lemon and in all honesty, you should have expected it. Yeah I'm pretty annoyed at myself, If I hadn't reached out to people in PMs I wouldn't have gained my misgivings. Orlok gave me village vibes in our chat and I deemed that I could rely on him to pull the rabbit out of the hat so to speak. Sorry @Lemonelon... -- So, we still have 2 confirmed converts, and we need a plan beyond just Orlok. I'm going to go through the thread sometime once I'm done studying >.> EDIT: Accidentally clicked enter >.>

So my suspicions on Straw were incorrect...and I had been going over the game, and thought I had found more suspicious stuff. I'll go over it again later, and also if you guys want you can lynch me. (Keep in mind I'll be paying attention to the lynchers ).

Congrats!

I'll go through the game during night cycle. For now Straw Megasif.

You know I've been getting really bad vibes from rand...

His post last cycle is not helpful, and he overall has been very distant, he's been semi-active, and elims only need to be active enough to put the kill order in. If he doesn't turn out to be an elim, feel free to lynch me.

We're keep being whittled, going to throw my vote on Straw.

Do you really.

Welcome to the shard! Awesome to have another writer here Unfortunate that noone else reads those books in your life, glad to provide the discussions you need.