Amanuensis
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You know, I still have no idea why the e!RBer hadn't just... idk... RB'd the players doing the scan rather than players making sure the scan goes through? Like we had no real defense for it but they kept letting them happen. Like why block Fadran on N4 and not RandBy, when you knew Steel is about to get scanned? Fear of a second Multiquoter hiding?
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I think Devotary was an RPer not a Pinchhitter, but yeah.
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I’m confused. Do you not want to prevent Kasimir from inciting a civil war, thus providing the necessary blood sacrifice to complete the nationwide transmutation circle and create a sufficiently powerful philosopher's stone to attain God?
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I'm going to attempt to do traditional vote analysis for D5 sometime today. Honestly a lil silly I haven't even tried. I'll attempt to approach it from both an E/E world (possible the Fadran voters near the end could have been elim motivated; perhaps the same could be said of the Biplet votes ) and from a E/V world (which requires v!Fadran and e!Orlok, I think?) Still find it odd that Tani would vote to confuse us in an e!Steel world but I'll try to ignore the tie shenanigans for now
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TJ said his action on Archer didn’t return the same “attempted” result, so Sart would need to have a unique second role, not the same as Archer’s In last nights case, I think it’s likely either Steel or Sart was the e!Roleblocker. And I don’t think we’ve ever seen evidence of an e!Troll, barring e!Walin or e!Fadran. Possible their only anti-scan measures were a Roleblock, Sart’s weird immunity, a potential!Confirmed Villager (if V!Fadran) and/or maybe Archer’s immunity
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Fadran claimed to be RB’d when RandBy scanned Steel elim N4 going into D5. That was also the night TJ “attempted” to RB Sart and I “attempted” to Troll Sart, which TJ believed could have been because Sart was the e!Roleblocker and OOA stuff happened In that world, e!Fadran and V!Fadran makes sense, but idk? The question again on my mind is why the elims RB’d me on N2 when it was publicly known Book would be scanning Orlok. We got a free village scan and that seems ?
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Oh right. The Fadran issue. If he's Village then we know there's an elim who scans Village, right? Like, it'd be crazy for there not to be? @Channelknight Fadran did you Troll last night?
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Why does e!Tani attempt to interfere with a tie where the results don't matter cause e!Steel can lie about them? Yeah, wha? Either Araris is lying or both Orlok and Araris are? ED1T: But Orlok was NK'd so... what? E!Steel legitimately makes zero logical sense D5 and I am deeply unhappy and refuse to believe it until the aftermath ED2T: I also officially give up. Someone kill me ASAP thanks ED3T: Alright obviously I'm kidding about giving up but just wanted to clarify that for anyone who might think I'm serious I am very very confused tho. e!Tani seemed intent on using her single remaining vote to interfere with the tie, but I discouraged it by getting Silho to move her vote and waste it, which I believed meant that the tie scan would be legit. But that was just wolf theater? I'm pretty sure when she voted it was when the exe was between Ash and Bip, too.
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Not what I expected. Now D5 makes zero sense to me again
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TBF I believe Stick would execute such a dastardly plan, given the opportunity, and that Tani would volunteer, assuming she had the roles on their team they could live the most without. I don't blame you for the transgressions of your previous incarnation, of course, though with Stick gone you shall eventually need to suffer the consequences of her actions
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I'd be very impressed if the elims used any NKs on themselves. Still think they've had two kills this entire game to balance out the kayana roles that exist and the fact that nearly everyone has 2 of them, so they could def afford to shoot one of their players--maybe n1 so they could put in kills for the rest of the game--but otherwise, this late in the game, they'd probably win sooner by targeting village power roles (i.e. RPers, Pinch Hitters, Discussion Leaders, and Wallposters)
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Woah. JNV/Archer is a fun theory I could get behind. But then my question would be if V!Steel told us the truth about the second tie scan having 2 elims, Biplet would have had to sneak in to replace Archer, right? Only Wiz and I are still alive among the New Voters
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My PoE rn is something like {Mat, JNV} or {Drake, Archer} tbh
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Oh right I forgor Now likelihood two villagers are Veterans and no elim is?
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TBH I kinda want to start my day voting Archer. Why? - Surely one of the A names must be evil - Surely one of the PM Spiders must be evil - Surely his one-of-a-kind role-immunity role is elim sided
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It's more that I believe in V!Steel, which means I believe in the sanctity of the second tie having 2 elims from the first tie, which means I also believe in V!You and V!TJ. More so V!TJ than V!You tho unfortunately you couldn't get shot so idk. If I were Drake I'd probably have shot Mat to collapse the Mat/JNV link earlier rather than later or even shot Fadran just for the claim of being the only "Confirmed Villager" ED1T: Basically, I don't love that Drake killed Silho after he proved to have a vote move role, then killed TJ who's been our only claimed Wallposter. It almosts looks to me like culling the scariest roles for elims to deal with in the late game ED2T: In all fairness tho I'm probably wrong about mostly everything this game and this is likely not an exception every player that's alive has like three paranoid theories attached and the moment anyone dies my brain goes to "nah they were probably v" mode
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TBH I could see the argument for giving Ash's double exe onetime use role to the elims, but probably only if he loses Execution Immunity after using it (i.e. he lied about the role). Could be a long game play for e!Ash with his back against the wall. And re: the Alignments and Roleclaims thing, that's kind of what I expect Deep Wolf elims to do? Busy work that they need to do anyway for strategic planning, but then they can bring it to the thread to make themselves look village-sided That said, I'm like 75% v!Ash myself. Tho I do admit the minus-1 vote thing is... hm. We've never seen another player with that role and that's odd to me. But I guess the same is true for Lynchbait and Stab Voter
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Possible Sart was indeed the e!Roleblocker Also possible TJ was, technically, tho Drake killing him is not exactly great for me e!Drake credences
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I'm taking my GM PMs word for it, yes cuz it's fairly straightforward, especially compared to the other 3 negative results I got ("Failure, Failure, Attempt") I'm just asking Walin to ease your burden of proof since he's the only Troll that's been Trolled that we know of.
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You'd have to ask @Walin specifically. But the GM PM did imply it was a success. Guess we can know for certain if any living player claims troll immunity
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Because my PM said I successfully Trolled Orlok
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I didn't get roleblocked or trolled! Yay! @Orlok Tsubodai
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Oh right
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What result did you get from N4 btw? You never got back to our PM
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JNV makes sense as an e!PM Spider, yeah. I've been attempting to engage people on that subject too (which Spider is elim) but no one has really bit
