The Watcher

I have a friend with an interesting theory about this. Basically put Lift is only 10 and has been for three years. This was accomplished by enmeshing Lift's Physical Self with her Cognitive Self. Giving her the ability to touch spren, convert food into Stormlight and not age. She won't age because her Cognitive Self refuses to grow up, and since Lift's Physical Aspect has been pushed into it this effect is seen in some form of Immortality. I think that the boon she asked for was to never grow up (possibly for some traumatic experience) and the curse she received was being forced to help Cultivation's plight, this is why Wyndle was sent. I believe he mentions being forced by Mother Cultivation to bond her? (If someone found the quote I'd be thankful) Cultivation is all about Growth, so she likely helped stunt Lift in order to help her healthily into the person she should become. All of this ould be wrong, so feel free to tell me if you think it is.

Just a quick question, is Bavadin Invested to a planet? I thought she was on Taldain (According to Khriss, but I could be wrong) influencing the cool Sand Magic. But is she actually travelling? That really doesn't sound like a Shard, they seem to get stuck on planets.

If the powers of Dominion and Devotion have splintered, then Odiums influence is likely there now. He wouldn't just leave a system like that all by itself. Unless he wanted it to crumble to the powers of the Dor. But this is just speculation and I'm going to use an analogy: it doesn't make sense for someone to kill a dragon and not take its gold, (unless you've watched/read the hobbit) In my opinion he would influence the land towards "Hate" then leave it under his influence. Humans are stubborn and stick to ideals, and if Hate is the ideal then Humans may get stuck in it. We may be seeing some of this influence in the religion of Shu- Dereth but I'd have to re- analyze Hrathen in Elantris to see for certain. Also to Odiums Champion, first he has to believe he could lose and that a Champion is the only way. Which if if humans were just "plucky little magic users" then that in itself would be impossible. There is something to fear in the Knights Radiant, something that opposes Odium enough that he believes he could still possibly lose. He knows that he Splintered Tanavast, so he shouldn't fear the humans at all. Unless you count Cultivation, but we really haven't seen all that much of her. So even though HOnor is Splintered, Tanavast was certain that Odium would be afraid of something. But what? Maybe, and this is just an idea, Humans who have the capacity to hold the Shard of Honor (I know its Splintered but hear me out) could draw in its power. Similar to how Vin drew in the mists, Preservation's, power once in the First Mistborn series. If only for a little while, that power could be the tipping point for the Champion of Honor.

When Kelsier confronts Khriss and Nazh, they say they were there only to witness his death. I'm sorry you were right, I thought that they said they were there to steal the Shard. As to the little magic users my question is why hasn't already just wiped them all the Rosharians? Is it because of Cultivation? And why does the Stormfathers visions, the ones that Tanavast ordered him show in case of Odium killing him, say to choose a Champion if they are doomed? It seems Tanavast had some hope that perhaps a Champion would stand up to the Shard power of Odium, so why would he have hope if humans couldn't possibly stand up to the power of Odium? Maybe there is something we are missing.

The Full power of Odium has been attacking Roshar for 4500 years, humans had the initial help from Honor. Sprens and Stormlight were both excellent tools for them to use, because of them they have survived the Desolations caused by Odium. Now that Tanavast has splintered he instructed the Stormfather to raise up a champion. Which implies that Honors believes there is a chance that Odium will fall to a human wielding only a little bit of his power. This doesn't make sense to me because the powers would be greatly tipped towards Odium. But we forget that Cultivation is still there. I believe that humans, with the intervention of Shards, can stand up to Odium. They just need a benevolent Shard who is willing to help. So the Dor, the complete Primal Power of Dominion as was said in the introduction to Emperors Soul: Arcanum Unbounded, wielded by Humans could potentially stand up to Odium. Provided they obtain help, and as Oversleep says above Elantrians could possibly WorldHop through unknown methods. He proposed that they were attempting to steal the power of Preservation, which would help them rid Sel of the Odium problem there.

Thank you for the information. I wasn't aware that the That Khriss from Taldain and Nazh from Threnody were from Sel. We know Nazh is from Threnody because of the intro to Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell, Khriss says that she had the opportunity to deal with a person from Threnody often. Nazh is the only other "humanoid" if you will she has the opportunity to deal with often due to her banishment (see Mistborn Secret History). We see in Elantris how Hoid attempts to become Elantrian but fails, perhaps these two have attained the power of the Elantrians through some unknown method. This would explain their lifespan. And to the non-human Vessels, I presume you are speaking of Dominion and Devotion? Who were said to be reduced to primal powers that were controlled by the geographical landscape. Yes that is true, and we have not had the pleasure to see what species the other Vessels are. But the ones we know about are for the most part of the humanoid variety. And another piece of evidence to say that a Vessel was used for Adonalsium was the statement Khriss said about her suspicions "Anyway, there was a God. Adonalsium. I don't know know if it was a force or a being, though I suspect the latter" Khriss And to comment on the Odium splintering the Vessels. Well when Dominion was splintered the power ended up being stronger and in the hands of more people. Not likely something the very essence of Hate in the cosmere would want.

The idea that the Shards were originally all one is a truly creative idea. And it gives us as fans much to think about. For those who don't know Adonalsium was said to be the whole form of all the Shards. But some cosmic event Shattered them apart, what this event is we do not know. What we do know is that the resulting "Shards" took hosts. Honor took Tanavast, Ruin took Ati, and Preservation took Leras. These Vessels became the "personality" behind the near omnipotent powers of creation. We have also noted that the Shards twist their Vessel to the nature of their power, for example: Ati was said to originally be a kind human but that he was changed to be more in tune, more like his Shard. All of this to say that the Shards are held by people who used to be human. We witnessed this in Hero of Ages when Sazed took on both the powers of Ruin and Preservation, proof that a human could wield more than one Shard. Back to Adonalsium, before the Shards shattered apart it is said that Adonalsium created Humans of all the worlds, except Scadrial, so my question is why Humans? And how does this force know to create people with 2 arms and 2 legs, unless it had a base to copy. Namely itself. I propose that Adonalsium itself had a Vessel, and that once he created mankind, they proceeded to challenge his power. They Shattered him through means that we do not know of, and caused his power to spread itself throughout the cosmere. Because the Shards were used to having Vessels who controlled them, they copied what their original self did and chose Vessels. They then proceeded to claim worlds and influence the way the World was shaped and how the people acted. Also in Mistborn the secret history we see people of Silverlight who had traveled to Scadrial to attempt to take the power of Preservation once he had Splintered. So its reasonable to assume that if all the Shards were killed close together then they would all gather to one Vessel, recreating Adonalsium. All this is theory and probably has some holes, so feel free to poke those holes and tell me all about your own theories and ideas.

A shard that hides? Interesting idea though isn't odium kind of busy attacking Roshar than to be raising cults of Shu-Dereth and isn't he also closer to Rosar? No I think Dominion was behind Jaddeth and Devotion is behind Domi.

I'm The Watcher and I have read all of his books including short works and deleted scenes soooooo yeah