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On a side note, I noticed that there were a few discrepancies in how the Inquisitors were powered vs. the books. 1.The standard inquisitors and Marsh do not appear to have Pewter allomancy. 2.WoA era Marsh has Steel and pewter Feruchemy. I had been under the impression that the Inquisitors only had gold Feruchemy until the end of WoA/beginning of HoA.

It's basically described as a sensation of having access to metals that he had previously used up-he still used them the way he had before. Unfortunately the google books preview is blocked for those pages.

In the RPG at least, Investiture appears to be limited to enhancing/feeding abilities that the user already has.

I think it's also worth noting that in the first book generally atium is a somewhat less rare commodity. Kelsier is pretty confident of his ability to get it-he can spare enough to let Vin try it out. On top of this the Lord Ruler would presumably be somewhat freer with the Atium with his servants. It also seems reasonable to me that the Inquisitors swallowed some when they detected other Allomancers in the building. They could (presumably) pierce copperclouds so they knew that they were dealing with two mistborn. It would seem prudent to swallow their Atium beforehand instead of trying to eat it in a fight with another atium-powered mistborn.

I'll also add that we never see the characters performing any actual feats of strength while heavy. They're able to mimic some feats of strength by selectively increasing their weight after generating velocity (Wax knocking down the door, Sazed closing the gate). But they always generate speed while still light and then increase their mass to have higher momentum.

Virtually every description, from the AoL Ars Arcanum to Sazed and Kelsier's descriptions emphasize it as energy neutral and emphasize that every benefit comes with a corresponding cost.User must put in what they get out. Half Ruin and half Preservation. It would pretty badly mess up the balance of the art to have something that doesn't operate in the reverse.

There's a pretty comprehensive discussion of this in the linked-to-thread. But basically, the descriptions seem to describe the user getting an increase in structural strength but not movement-strength. So the bones/connective tissues are stronger so that he does not literally fall apart, but the user does not have any increased ability to move.

I'm betting that this is just an author screwup or out-of-sequence narrative. IIRC in one of the arm-lifting scenes he's at one-hundred times weight. Even with pewter, this would seem like too much strength.

I read this as being a gameplay restriction rather than some sort of actual statement on the nature of the in-book-universe.

Coming over from the Trellism thread. Some folks over there noted correctly that Trellism (as practiced by Miles) was practiced by people who lived near the poles. Some folks observantly connected this to Brandon's references to a so-called-polar control group that TLR kept living on the other side of the world. Can folks give me a hand finding these references? I seem to remember him specifically saying that these other people would play a role in the new trilogy (maybe in the annotations).

I understood this to mean that Jak was going to be inducted into their tribe rather than physically converted to a Koloss. It kind of mimics the old-adventurer serials (like the villain from Up) where the heroic westerner would meet some primitive tribe and get initiated into their tribe after proving his valor. This is what Sanderson said "Marsh survived. (He'll show up in the Mistborn sequel series.) The Kandra were restored, and have taken a vow to live only in animal bodies. There will never be any more of them, but they are functionally immortal. So you'll see them again. The Koloss who were in the cavern at the time survived, and were changed to become a race that breeds true, rather than Hemalurgic monsters. More below. " I read this to read that the surviving Koloss became "real" creatures that were not dependent on their spikes for their current forms. Now it's probably true that the spikes would still work, but I'd think that Sazed would dump or get rid of the spikes instead of leaving them with the Koloss.

I am a little curious how much of belief in Harmony is historical vs. religious. Is it generally accepted that Harmony saved everyone from the Ruinpocalypse, with Pathists following the specific religious tenets laid out by Sazed or do Sliverists and Surivorists have their own creation story? Do people know that Harmony was a Keeper named Sazed before he ascended*? *It's clear that the populace doesn't know everything that was in the HoA epigraphs, since the Ars Arcanum says that Hemalurgy was suppressed, and people also don't know that "ironeyes" was an inquisitor, etc.

It seems that Thugs are more resistant to physical injury but they're not bulletproof. Tarkin is still dropped by a shot to an arm. I don't know that a thug could handle three or four people filling him with bullets. I think that the main problem is that one-on-one they can stay up long enough to kill you, but it seems that for Thugs the best strategy is to have a group of people shoot them up.

Just so I'm understanding you, you're confirming that there is no telegraphy?

Innnteresting and good catch. I wonder exactly how that worked given the time elapse between the books.

Sanderson said that the way snapping works has changed since Sazed didn't like the way it worked before. Presumably it can be done without excruciating pain now.

It's not clear that the population had full access to the contents of the epigraphs. The Ars Arcanum mentions that knowledge of Hemalurgy was suppressed (for obvious reasons) so they at least don't have access to the ones talking about Hemalurgy.

Telegraphy is much easier than power distribution in terms of the types of technology needed, understanding of electromagnetism, etc. They must have some means of generating electricity which requires a pretty good understanding of electromagnetism. They have working electric fans, etc. This is all much more complicated in terms of E&M understanding/application than telegraphy. As I said, if this was some sort of chemical application or the germ theory of disease, or refrigeration, I'd buy it, but telegraphy is a vastly simpler application of the electromagnetic principles you need to understand to do power generation/distribution/motoring, etc.

I don't think that there are THAT many coinshots. It seems like a lot of effort to keep one on call every time you want to put in an order for supplies, ask questions, convey news, etc. As I mentioned earlier, the most common use of telegraphy was to notify train stations that trains were late. Telegraph stations by the 1850s were handling so many messages a day that they needed to set up switching stations, etc. It was so much better than everything else even in the age of trains that it was mass-distributed everywhere in the civilized world.

Basically the people who were snapped were people of marginal ability whose ability couldn't be brought out by normal physical abuse. It's probably a combination of people with noble blood or just mistings in the general gene pool. Basically the population at large has a limited ability for allomancy but most people who are strong enough to Snap normally are noble descendants of the original seven who ate the beads at the Well. But the population at large has some weak allomantic potential. The "spoiler" section of this annotation discusses it in greater detail. http://www.brandonsanderson.com/annotation/318/Mistborn-3-Chapter-Forty-Nine-Part-2

Once again, the US had regular train routes in place before telegraphy was deployed. No one thought "hey, we can just send a guy by train, no need to have instantaneous communication." And sending someone on a regular train route is much easier and cheaper than having a flying sorcerer constantly on call for routine communications.

Mr. Ahlstrom indicated here (bottom)that Hoid was in Alloy of Law http://twg.17thshard.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6;area=showposts;start=75 Any thoughts/speculation?

Yeah, but that had a lot to do with the fact that dirgibles were really kind of crappy-they filled a niche need (slow direct air access to cities) and was replaced by much faster vehicles, albeit ones that had to leave from airports. When a technology is really crucial it can kill tons and tons of people and still get advanced. Until about the 1840s the most common kind of accidental death was steamship accidents until it was overtaken by .....railroads.

I don't want to dwell on it too much, but telegraphy is such an elementary application of the electromagnetic principles you'd need to be able to master in a much more sophisticated way to do electricity distribution that it's almost impossible to be able to have the technology they're showing in AoL without telegraphy. If this were say the germ theory of disease or refrigeration or some sort of chemical refining, sure it's plausible, but electricity distribution is a much more advanced application along the same axis.

You could go for some sort of social/economic resentment. He might resent the subservient role of the Terrismen, thinking that the regular folks crap all over them. Maybe mix in a little bit of Rashek's entitled superiority over their powers.