Zathoth
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The Vorin kingdoms would probably find you reading to your wife all kinds of really weird XD
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People who apparently believe that they have something better to do? I wonder what my Tardis would look like if the chameleon circuit broke...
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Well, I believe you need a hug. And if I had a Tardis, you would hear a very familiar wooshing sound as soon as I finish these ribs, alas, I do not have a Tardis. ... does anyone want to steal a Tardis and travel all of time and space?
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Pink Floyd?
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To talk about things that happened two pages back has anyone ever thought of how strange rain is? Parts of the sea just falls from the sky, because.
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I wonder if Kaladin will be the victim again, personally I'd like if it was Jasnah, just because I really want to see Jasnah do the straight man act to Hoids silliness.
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Hello, welcome, Im not as creepy as people claim, no, seriously. No matter what my choice of avatars say. I liked Reckoners personally, though it is not as good as his cosmere works, but you should read them, they are quick reads.
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I feel like I should write some clarifications to what I meant, but then I'll just be dragged into another discussion and I dont want to do that right now. Also, good idea to make a philosophy thread, then I can stop clogging the random stuff.
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Dont be silly, thats a great idea. And... my bad... sorry... Good news is I wont have enough philosophy for anything like this in months.
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We should have a madness contest, you and I.
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Orlion, stop. Im out of philosophy fuel. Actually I ran out of philosophy fuel a couple hundred kilometers back, Ive been pushing the philosophy mobile all this way.
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If hypothetical characters can become real I am slightly creeped out, which is great, now to write something about that, later, when I can think. According to Kaymyths theory of art A and B are actually already real people in an alternate universe which we have brought into ours by thinking of them. Actually A and B are probably the most fleshed out characters in the world because we use them so much...
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Oh right, I actually forget that it is not my native language. I use it too much, I cant even spell in swedish anymore... (It is even funnier than it sounds like, swedish is pretty phonetical compared to english) And yes, baby otters, I need baby otters. Can we not do this now? Im getting a headache. Basically: Stuff happens, someone benefits, someone gets hurt, then people put values into that. My point is: Nothing is intrinsically anything. Meaning is a human construct. I dont need to feel like anything I do is supported by the soul of the universe or anything. Now, can we leave this? If anyone wants to argue with me more send me a PM, later, way later.
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... why are you getting my points across better than I am? Have all the popcorn in the universe. It felt like everyone thought I was a monster there for a moment XD
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Why do I believe that the soul of the universe tells me what is right and wrong? Thats what I dont understand. I do think it is... Ive already said this. I think so, my opinions are not the truth. Yes, we are all heroes of our own stories, what you are completely forgetting now is that you are the hero of your own. I dont believe in rights, people will act as they please. If we dont like how they act then we may stop them, but as the overly quoted couplet reads: "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." You may indeed tell her to stop, there are reasons you dont do it, and thats that. I give up... and I liked this place too... ah well. It was nice.
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What right do you need? You sir, deserve all the popcorn in the world. What else do you need?
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Are you two possibly using firefox? It works on another forum using this engine, not sure why it isnt working on this one...
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Too bad you think so because pragmatism is my moral code. Yes, I am completely illogical. I am as you may remember actually a human being, like the rest of you. It is not like an appeal to a higher authority of somekind makes it more moral, it is not like it being hardwired in us makes it right or wrong, it is there. It is an appeal to Me, I am the only moral guide I need. As for your example we are not Batman and The Joker, I am not going to kill people just to prove a philosophical point, that would be very childish of me. And again, it would not please me to do so. Do I need another reason? Does right and wrong really need to be written in the stars, or said by god or be hardwired in our DNA? My code is My own. Even if the stars change or god changes their mind it is still mine. And thats My opinion, no more right than any others. Things are put into existence, things exist, then they are put out of existence, the values of all this, is a human creation. Now I hope this ninja isnt more arguments... EDIT: Im sadly with you in the anti-popcorn party. I'll take some chips if you have.
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Ah, ninjas, I'll just double post this because quoting is annoying in editing... I would argue that killing insects is more evil than humans because insects actually do something that is not destroying the planet. Humans however would give me a harsher punishment, so killing a human is less useful, in a way, for me personally at least. Right? It is not about what is right, I love my mother, I'd rather not have her dead. I am so weak that the child can probably defend itself better than I could defend it, but yes, defend the child of course, because I want to defend the child. It would make me feel better in doing so, which is useful. There I would probably run away, if the killer can kill an adult Im not going to be able to help much unless I am armed. I would feel better if I saved him, yes, of course, but I'd rather not die. Also Im not going to keep arguing against appeal to masses. Thats a fallacy. Just because most people believe it doesnt make it true. Which is why we have laws. Laws are not moral absolutes, they are there to make sure we continue as a society, which I personally think is a pretty good idea as I like this entire tap water, roof over my head, internet and not having to hunt for food thing. Because it would not be useful to do so. I dont think they limit me, I think they help me. I dont want to murder, as little as I want to ram a spike through my eye. Exactly, it is not very useful. So I dont do it, because why would I? Oh dont give me Lady "Im not going to give you pain killers as you die in pain because I think it is wrong to do so but when I die I will have everything I want~" as an example of a decent human being. It wouldnt be ok, ok is an opinion, if I decided to be a rapist it would be that, ok and not ok comes in after. It is humans putting values in things. None of this suffering has any meaning. None of this has a meaning, we are here, thats that, meaning, as I said, comes from humans, it is something we create and if you ask me I think it is beautiful how we can take this cold and illogical cosmos and make something from it. Enjoy your eggs and tl;dr things happen, values comes after. Values are created by humans. Thank you forum mom for distracting more arguments ninjaing me, the "Show new messages" function isnt working for me.
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Millions of Romans believed that watching people killing each other was perfectly good entertainment. We disagree. Now I have personally argued that the suffering of the ones actually doing the killing and dying outweights the entertainment of the ones watching, but thats my opinion. And what makes human life sacred but not the life of a cow? And now we are getting to the logical reasons why you shouldnt kill people. You should indeed not kill people, then people will want revenge and the more people who want you dead puts your own survival at risk. Still, you may as well argue that if you killed all humans there are an innumerable amount of life forms on this planet that would benefit from it. Of course it does, Im slightly crazy, not heartless. It would also not benefit me to do so.
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Of course I think it was wrong, but thats the catch, I think it was wrong. There is no metaphysical entity that makes it wrong, it is not hard coded into the universe that rape and murder is wrong, it is an opinion, it is mine and I would feel a lot better if it didnt happen, but it is still just an opinion. That is pretty much what I meant XD Well, why is eating a human more horrible than eating a cow? You are still killing someone. (Yes, fruit are going to fall anyway, yes I just broke my own argument) But why is preserving life better? The person in question is going to die anyway. Why is your needs worth more than the killers needs? What I am saying isnt "We shouldnt stop people from getting murdered." What I am saying is that we have no god given right to stop people from killing others. To the killer you are the villain and dont give me the "But he is delusional" stuff. Also my cousin just texted me "What the hell is wrong with Straff?!"
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So is eating good or evil? You destroyed something to eat it, even plants try to survive, should we not respect that? (Yes, you are not the only one who just heard Pattern hum "Eating is great evil" in your head) Taking a walk, you may step on insects, thats evil, human society as it is, destroy the homes of other beings. If you save the prey of a predator who did you just help? Save the prey of a hunter, who did you help? If two starving humans have nothing to eat but each other, who is the evil one? Stop the growth of humanity however and you have hurt the humans. Losers and winners, someone wins, someone loses. If you dont want the crazy serial killer to murder someone you stop them, not because it is right, but because you want to. Your urge isnt worth more than his, but it is not worth less either. Existence, it is a conflict. Unnn... that may have sounded arrogant. I basically just walked you through my thought process. Ive read one and a half chapter, then philosophy happened XD I gotta stop clogging this thread with philosophy... Nonono! Stay! The only philosophy I really do is thinking too much, I dont read much of it so I dont know the names of the ideas or anything. Im not sure where I was going with that... Anyway back to the book!
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... that made me curious? How do you define good and evil then? To me it boils down to "I think this is wrong and so should you." Thats all the idea of morality is to me, opinions.
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I think her body turns food into stormlight, so she wouldnt get breaths if she ate food from Nalthis, probably, just like an allomancer can burn any metals because it is not the metals that are invested, but their DNA.
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Kobold I'll get to you... later... when I feel like arguing moral nihilism... and stuff... Lets just say I sort of agree... Anyway I got The Black Prism!
