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  1. Clanky
    Okay I a finally back and able to address the rest of kippers suspicions about me. It seems like things have escalated while I was gone. 1: So when I suggested that Maills death had some analytical value I did give my ideas about what I thought they might be. That is in this post. I didn't give any hard accusations about what I thought because I wanted to know what other people thought. Unfortunately al I got from people was don't look into it too hard because it was probably just a fear kill. I decided not to keep pressing on about it because of all the negative feedback I was getting. Tat is why you saw me post this I do tend to believe in most cases that the first few kills are fear kills and the other part of this post was supposed to be slightly sarcastic in that everybody knows not to attempt to analyze eliminator kills(Except me). I understand how this makes me seem like I changed my mind but I have still been keeping the maill kill in mind when analyzing this game and I am currently leaning towards this option as to why it happened: This is actually one of my main reasons for not voting Wyrm. 2: If you actually go and see what I said about the contribution crusade you will see that it bears very little resemblance to the original"only try and lynch inactives unless there is undoubtable suspicion". I was attempting to find a different way to spur inactives into participating by threatening death by coinshots. It doesn't eliminate the power of the lynch but can still work to promote activity. I'm sorry that I used the words contribution crusade while doing this but I do like the true goal of the crusade even if the original name and banners were created by an eliminator. 3: I tried to answer this in the first rebuttal I made but if I didn't I would be glad to answer any more questions you have kipper. Now after seeing kippers reasoning I feel no different about kippers guilt or innocence. This obviously was a well thought out argument and I hope that I answered your suspicions to your liking. EDIT: Got Kasrippimar and Wyrm confused
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    1: I wasn't criticizing the original "plan". We all knew that there was more to the plan than that, Joe himself said so. I was bringing up problems that would exist in any incarnation of a plan based upon what I knew. 2: You were acting like you saw a flaw that no-one else did when I had been discussing those things the whole cycle. You just seemed to be acting like you were the only one who could see the real problem in Joes plan when many people had already been discussing the flaws. Sorry if you felt you were being scrutinized but it was a strange thing for you to come in so late and act like you saw things no-one else did. 3: I voted for Sart he ended up being good oops? It was day one Unfortunately I have to leave the internet for a while and can't give my response to everything now. I will be back though.
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    *Inserts Vending machine repairman?*
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    @Deathclutch: Don't discount the chances that we were given three Pewterarms on the inquisitors. We made that mistake in LG14 and killed all of our Lifeless Operators(Similar to the lurchers in this game) because the GM would never give three protection roles to the same team. Spoiler, he did! Also Kipper may have good reason to be voting for me so I will be refraining from any sort of analysis based off the vote until we get the reasons. I looked back through Lopens posts and unfortunately didn't find anything too damning. I do however have the opposite view that Lopens Skaaness makes Wyrm an inquisitor. There was never any really good reasoning why Wyrm voted for Lopen or vice versa and it the votes never put either of them at risk of a lynch. It could easily have just been banter to distance themselves once in case one of them is killed and revealed. In other words while they voted for each other neither of them actually tried to get the other one lynched. I don't feel strongly enough based with just that to try and get wyrm killed but it definitely moved him up in suspicion for me. In fact I happen to agree with wyrm at the moment about Winter. There hasn't been much analysis and a few posts seem off to me including this one Also the response here when Orlok questioned Winters behavior this game. Should we just consider anything odd that winter does a result of normal erratic behavior and just ignore it? Furthermore this part of the quote (shown above, Winter is talking about Orlok) really contradicts the quote this cycle in which Winter is certain that Orlok was evil EDIT: , So many Ninjas! EDIT: Put Lopen where Orlok should have been
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    This is quite impressive coinshot. Anyways sorry for not being too active at the end of last cycle I had a lab and two midterms yesterday so I was pretty busy. For now I won't be placing a vote as I want to look through Lopens posts to see if anything stands out. I am also interested to see Kippers suspicions on me before I do anything drastic on that front.
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    Winter is never the entire reason cold lingers outside. Understandably demons imply some asinine model engineering all myths into elements. IAGREEALLACCRONYMSSHOULDBESHORT
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    An album based upon the Silmarillion. What more do you want?
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    I suppose I have a northern Canadian accent. I don't notice it but everyone from southern Canada can hear it and always say I call milk "malk". This is basically what happens every time I say milk around my housemates. I do however have a speech impediment that has led people to believe I have an accent and has led to some interesting stories. I once had a lab partner from Russia and the first thing she ever said to me was: "I know where you are from" I thought this was weird cause it came out of nowhere and I had never met this person before. So I asked where she thought I was from and she said "You are from Romania" I told her that I was from Canada and had lived here my whole life, never even been to mainland Europe at that point. It took me about 15 minutes to convince her I wasn't lying since apparently I have an accent indistinguishable from someone who lived their whole life in Romania. She thought I was just lying about being Canadian.
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    Zephrer, Honey was claiming that he wasn't necessarily a lurcher or coinshot, not that he had no role at all. Also on the note of role reveals, how many vials of metal did everyone start out with? I had three. Do we think that the amount of vials you got were dependant on your power? Or maybe everyone got the same amount or they were completely random.
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    Panic! Obnoxious Oculators Hiccuping! DYWTGTTM
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    Yes that could be the case but since it seems like everybody in the conversation has a good chance of dying and there isn't really any very good reasoning behind most of the votes I would expect the Skaa to avoid it. I am not a fan of cats. Mostly because If I go near one I can't breathe or see for a few days.
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    Yep I will but there is still plenty of time in this cycle for everything to change.
  13. Clanky
    I currently have my vote on Alv and I am also suspicious of everyone lurking at the moment since it feels to me like the inquisitors are in a self-destructive phase at the moment where we are all focusing on a few active inquisitors while the Skaa just stand back and let it happen.
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    I first brought up my suspicions of Zephrer here. That is what makes me suspicious of him and that is when others started voting for him as well. As for Creccio I believe it is all more instinctual and the tone of his posts being slightly abrasive.
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    See! Every time radiants attempt murder someone else totally ruins a meal. BRANDONSANDERSON
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    You get a broadsword! *Inserts The Words of Founding*
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    We seem to be going around in circles voting for the same people for the same reasons. They are also all the most active players who are being most active who are being heavily targeted. So Zephrer I will be removing my vote from you for now. You are correct that there isn't anything you can say to clear yourself and I remain very suspicious of you. So instead I will be placing my vote on Alvron. How I see this game is a bunch of inquisitors throwing accusations at each other while the Skaa happily keep to the background and let us kill each other. This is an odd reason for a vote I think. Everyone can tell that players are normally targeted by eliminators based on their threat and activity levels. I'm sure Wyrm knows that and was saying that he can't see what else we can learn by analyzing these kills. Then you say that Sart was also killed for the same reason which does make sense but really has nothing to do with the argument.
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    @Polking: I asked the coinshots to start taking out people who were lurking to promote activity. I am not sure if that was the case but Shallan certainly fit the lurker part. EDIT: Clarification
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    I am going to put my vote back on to Zephrer. He managed to put off the lynch without really having to do anything because of Jos deathwish and the kindhearted amongst us accommodating him. EDIT: Colour
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    Welcome back everyone! It looks like threatening to unleash coinshots on inactives sure did the trick. I don't really like that all we got was agreements with suspicions that were already widespread but it's a start. @Orlok. I see you viewing the thread. Any thoughts? EDIT: Ninja'd by Orlok
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    Exactly so now we give the Skaa free range to use that metal and it to be attributed to Zeph causing him to be lynched. That however is not my main problem. My main problem is how does this make him any less likely to be a Skaa? You give him a choice to either be lynched now or to reveal your metal and not be lynched. Why would he ever not agree to reveal his metal Skaa or not?
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    How does this help us determine if he were a Skaa though? He claims a metal and a seeker finds out it is true. Cool. So then what, a seeker reveals themselves to say that he told the truth. Again cool. So now we know he told the truth about his power and that means...... nothing. All we gain is a revealed seeker with one less vial.
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    You get many people vehemently saying your theory is impossible! *Inserts Rithmatic Chalk*
  24. Clanky
    So... Where'd everyone go? Did everyone forget about this game in the few hours when there was no new thread? So far only Creccio, Stink, Winter, me, alfa, wyrm, Zephrer, Maill, Kipper and ripple have posted this cycle. That leaves 14 people who have yet to post with only 12 hours left this cycle. Some of these haven't really posted all game like phat and deathclutch but what about the rest of you? Joe: You've been on but have yet to post this cycle. In fact you haven't posted too much analysis since you "learned' that your plan wouldn't work. Are you trying to lay low so people forget that they were suspicious about you? I would be voting for you if not for Zephrer and I am tempted to vote for you anyways because Zephrer is at least participating. In fact I believe you are eliminators together. I will point to this post: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/46623-mid-range-game-9-the-steel-ministry/?view=findpost&p=346601to back up that suspicion. Backing up a fellow eliminator without actually voting with them perhaps? Now there isn't really any way to stop this inactivity epidemic but I suggest that any Coinshots out there start using their powers. If we start killing people who are on the forums and maybe have posted once or twice all game or those who you see viewing the game maybe it will get people to come back to the game. This I feel is a good way to impose the contribution Crusade.
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    Nope Zephrer was also in MR7 on Discovery. It's difficult to get any info from looking back at that game since it was mostly done in docs and since everyone treated Discovery like the eliminator faction that they definitely were not.
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