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[OB] Full Book Reactions / Full Spoilers Thread
yulerule replied to Chaos's topic in Stormlight Archive
Well, Hoid's is well on his way to having most of the powers. Also, Hoid's and a spreadsheet that likes lies - scary combination. I never liked Moash - still, he disappointed me. Hah - I thought Elhokar would become a KR. I didn't think he'd die though. I was wrong about who wrote the epigraphs in part 1. I really don't like Mr. T. Renarin is really upsetting people's plans. So. Everybody was rooting for Eshoni to be alive, and yet we got Venli as the KR. With a form of power as well. And it seems one of the Unmade might be an ally, and Glys is an ally. I wonder how a corrupted spren differs? Only Nale attracted a spren of his own order? Even though he's with the enemy, I'm feeling sympathetic. Adolin is well on his way to awakening Maya. I don't think he's quite Edgedancer material, he just has a close connection to his blade. Being in Shadesmar helped. I feel Nightblood drove Szeth to make good decisions. I wonder where humans came from, and more about bringing Odium. What order is that comet spren, anyway? It can be Skybreakers, Dustbringers, Willshapers, or stoneward. I think it's a willshaper. Oh, Spiritual Adhesion. I think there's probably versions of each surge per Realm. I have no Idea what Spiritual/Cognitive Gravitation/etc would be like. Wait ... Spiritual Division sounds horrifying. -
[OB] Full Book Reactions / Full Spoilers Thread
yulerule replied to Chaos's topic in Stormlight Archive
Yay, picture of Urithru and the oathgates. 7:56 Edit1: So Dalinar didn't kill the kid. 8:24 Edit2: We learn the truth about the Oathpact and the last desolation. 9:39 Edit3: Veil is being disturbing... 10:02 Edit4: yay!Lift! and Dalinar! 10:13 Edit: Oh god, oh god oh god, Literally. 11:49 Edit: Can't stop laughing at Kaladin's disguise. 12:42 Edit: Three bondsmiths... 1:06 Edit: Wow, forgot a plot point. 1:10 Edit: Hoid's never gonna forget about that flute, is he? 1:39 Edit: mini avalanche? 2:58 Edit: I know who Vivenna is! She also uses color metaphors 3:04 Edit: Is Odium's champion who I think it is...? 4:50 635 Edit: I'm so happy the book doesn't end at part 4. 9:21 10:39 Bondsmiths are f scary 1:35 - finished. So much to chew over. -
I pre-ordered the ebook. My plan for tomorrow: Read Oathbringer. (Hope I get hungry enough to occasionally remember to eat)
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Perhaps the feel of slowness was amplified by the incredibly slow trickle of released chapters.
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So part 1 was setting everything up, I feel it was pretty slow overall, I think stuff will start accelerating in the next part, with more action. Jasnah is back - we'll learn some of what she learned in Shadesmar. (We should start a betting pool for the epigraphs - I vote Jasnah.) Kaladin will tell Dalinar that not all of the Parshmen became evil. Stuff will happen. I think the windbreak was Kaladin infusing the windspren with stormlight, I wonder what other interactions happen when you mix regular spren and stormlight. (Hmm..does anything interesting happen to nature spren during Highstorms?) Also - Highstorm - one way super highway for Kaladin.
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I think it's ominous that a Dustbringer is with Mr. T. I can't tell if Mr. T is faking, or this is one of his stupider days. Looks like he is pushing Dalinar to take the path of the warlord. Kaladin talked to the voidspren - things are getting interesting. He's basically a spy now. I wonder if the Ghostbloods know that Kaladin killed Helaren, or if it's about the Skybreakers.
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Did anyone else catch that Stormlight can be suppressed? I'm not sure what that means, exactly other than being non-glowy but possibly suppressing Stormlight lets you keep it longer (it won't leak away quite so fast). Shallan is shocked by what she did as Veil, yet also remembering bits of what she did as a child. The fact that she learned to hide Stormlight way back then is not a good indicator, at all. This raises even more questions - before that fateful day, did she know she had to hide her abilities from her mother?
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The Parshmen are aware of the Rythyms, but not how to attune them. Kaladin is giving out loads of advice. Back to the chapters... Also Sah is pretty intelligent.
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I see the one that came out just now. Where'd the older one?
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Stabbing yourself isn't healthy. Having stormlight that can heal any injuries instantly is only an enabler of that. Regarding the mouthy bridgeman - I got the feeling he's a bridgeman in the first place because of mouthing off. Pattern and corpses - well it's true - very true. I sort of want to see more of Shadesmar though, because stiff there must work very differently. And the spren do have cities... Kaladin helping the Parshmen - the feels - they always knew that something was wrong with their minds. I wonder why the Voidspren didn't bind to a Parshmen and instead is free. I think that's the first time we see a higher spren (other than Stormform) unbound in the Physical Realm that's fully cognizant and speaking aloud and visible to everybody.
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I think that the second murders aren't human work - something else is going on. Veil is crazy. Going deeper into her disguise isn't any good for her mental health. Announcing a new ship: Pattodlin. Or Adolern. Oh my god. I mean By the Almighty! The curse is breaking - he is remembering Evi.
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What I've heard is that authors don't read fanfiction or fan theories, because if they do, and then later use something similar in their own work, they are afraid fans will sue them.
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Regarding Shallan: The truths she speaks get progressively further back in time. The next Truths are probably from before she killed her mother, so we'll probably learn more about her childhood.
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Regarding the Recreance. We know that the KR learned "some wicked thing of eminence" that caused all but the Skybreakers to break their oaths. It must have been truly terrible, as Syl seems to be Kaladin's best friend/incredibly close companion, and he's known her for less than a year. I can't imagine the friendship between a KR and a spren that have been together for at least decades. I'm pretty sure the spren had to agree - but maybe they didn't tell unbounded spren. I'm pretty sure we'll (and maybe the characters as well) will eventually I learn that secret. However, the result might be different (no second Recreance) as there are two important things to keep in mind. One, it had been thousands of years since the "Last Desolation" and since the Heralds were present. So the KR technically weren't needed for the protection of Roshar anymore (they thought). Two, Honor was still alive. I'm pretty sure there's a WoB around that after Honor was Splintered there were more spren or something. Realmatical on Roshar may have been slightly different pre-approval/and post-Splintering. So, I'm hopeful that if our modern day characters actually learn the wicked thing of eminence, they will continue fighting, as they are needed and Honor is dead. Whatever Shard-support there was during the Desolations is not available anymore.
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Shallan didn't break her Oaths - Pattern didn't die and she could still summon Patternblade.
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Regarding breaking the oaths - on the one hand, it seems that every order would need to do it differently because of the different Oaths, but on the other, during the Recreance they broke their oaths all at once and all in the same way. And it seemed too simple - like breaking a deadsprenblade bond.
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Maybe she's coping somehow so far. But what about when her brothers show up now that she's admitted these truths? Will she tell them about their mother?
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Adolin cut Urithru after killing Sadeas to get rid of the mark he made on the wall while exploring.
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I feel that the epigraphs now seem to contain basically no information, but looking back, they will be info -rich.
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They can't quite become monsters against their own will - if they are determined to refuse Voidspren, they can.
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I can accept red and black being "evil" colors, but gold? Not so much. Yay my cultural bias is showing.
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Also Wyndle complained incessantly about being sent by committee to bond with Lift. Different spren orders have different methods. I feel Kaladin and Syl are the most friendly combination.
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Regarding Shallan, and multiple personalities. We've seen plenty of examples of the Surges being used physically, in the Physical realm. But I think they can also be used semi- subconsciously. Kaladin has Gravitation, people gravitate to him - Even Elokhar recognizes that he's a natural leader. Dalinar and Kaladin are both leaders and both have Adhesion. Shallan is transforming herself, and also lying to herself (illusion) that the transformations aren't just another aspect of herself, but are different. She is the one that practices being Veil, after all.
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All of Brandon's WoBs about Parshmen implied that the vast majority would turn into Voidbringers, and only those inside during an Everstorm MIGHT (small probability) transform into non-Void forms. Also, the Everstorm keeps coming. It might transform more of the non-Void into Voidbringers every cycle. It still has red spren zipping around inside.
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I just thought of something - the transformed Parshmen who are probably non-Voidbringers spoke in perfect Alethi. Probably because that's the only language they ever heard. But did they attune Rythyms? Do they even know about Rythyms? Can they speak without Rythyms? I want to see what happens when a non-Voided Parshendi meets a non-Void transformed Parshmen.
