Paragrin

If Kel is going to come back, I figured out one way how. This was springboarded by reading the annotations for HoA chapter 50some and seeing it explicitly mentioned that Kel's bones got back to the Homeland. So, they would have been underground when Sazed did his thing. So. We know this: -TenSoon can mimic Kelsier's body with his bones, which are presumably still around. -Kelsier is hanging out as a Cognitive Shadow, and can hold unattended shardpower to a limited extent . -Sazed has excess Ruin, which can- among other things- control kandra. I imagine this sequence of events: Sazed passes Kelsier a bit of excess Ruin, and watches carefully to make sure he doesn't get corrupted by it. TenSoon takes Kel's bones, and allows Kel!Ruin to control him. Voila, flesh-and-blood Kelsier. (They are all three making this plan from the start. I want to make that really clear, otherwise it gets a little bit too far into dark-alley territory.)

...those work alarmingly well... The Little Mistborn Vinderella: Girl sees guy who's way out of her league at ball, hides her poor birth to be with him, ends up ruler. Awoken: Kid is taken to location out of society for possessing vast magical power, raised in ignorance, love interest enters and teaches ways of the world, clause in the magic is used to defeat villain. (Otherwise known as, you never realized Warbreaker was just a genderswapped Tangled...) The Princess and the Returned: Girl is about to fulfill her life's goal when it is taken from her, meets transformed ruler with backstory with the bad guys, has adventures. Beauty and the Releaser

When you wanna be where the /novels/ are.

Nobody yet...

Okay, it's been six days. I'm taking it. From different worlds, for different reasons, these two profess what's not believed in.

And Les Mis is the story of a conflict between a Windrunner and a Skybreaker.

Yes, thank you, Prometheus. (And I am in fact female, btw...)

...~Preservation's mind was almost destroyed~ "The sliver remains. The shadow of self."

So, I was rereading HoA and I spotted something that I think has been pointed out before- that one of the kandra First Generation titledropped SoS in reference to Leras-as-the-mist-spirit. Now, as this is Brandon, there is no way this is not significant. We might find out more about Leras and Ati, their time as mist spirits, or... Cognitive Shadows. And who is the one person who is a confirmed Cognitive Shadow, from Scadrial even? I think there's a real possibility that Kelsier might play a more active part.

And besides, I don't think Ruin can alter the epigraphs. We got the unaltered version of Kwaan's inscription in book two, after all.

Yup. (Also, can we call hemalurgically-changed creatures sGMO?)

Yeah... note to self: don't go on a weeklong trip where you'll be in close quarters with two people named Seth while on a big Cosmere kick. I got paranoid! Also: when "Seth" starts looking like it's spelled wrong.

The sGMO mad scientists' lab.

Uh, what?

It's... mostly based on gut feel, honestly. It's kinda a "you are" vs "you do" thing, but that's not all of it.... It all makes perfect sense in my head, really!

Well, the Intents of Ruin and Preservation directly contradict each other. With Intents that don't, the effects would probably be... less straightforward. For example, if someone had managed to get both Ruin and Odium... I would be very scared. But for some, uh, less cosmere-destroying combinations, I could see fun interplay between any two (or more) of Devotion, Endowment, Cultivation and Preservation. And combining Odium with... well, pretty much anything else would probably result in the kind of fun that has double exclamation points around it.

So I was fooling around with the Third Ideal of the Windrunners, trying to see how I would have said it (I'm pretty sure there was a WoB somewhere that it isn't the wording that matters as much as the sentiment (which reminds me of the idea of personal recensions of the Wizard's Oath, from Diane Duane's Young Wizards series (awesome books, btw))) and I came up with this: I will grant protection to any who seek it. Comments on plausibility and more speculated Ideals (both serious and not) welcome.

Hmm, sullen... The Shin grass the trader lady keeps in the pot? Maybe you were trying to be massively misleading...

Hmm. Listing all known methods of effective immortality that I can think of: Being a Shardholder Being an Elantrian Holding large amounts of breath Atium compounding (possibly hemalurgically stolen) Being Returned Being a Herald Being a spren Being a kandra Whatever Hoid does/is As a dragon, I think he's unlikely to be an Elantrian, kandra, or spren. Being Returned would be more likely than those, but still not super-likely; but maybe Endowment likes him. He seems to have been around from before the Shattering, so unless Adonalsium made atium for some reason or Ati started making it immediately afterwards, not likely that he'd have enough of it to compound- not even considering the requisite abilities. Ditto for Breath. We don't know the deal with the Heralds, so that's about equally as likely to be what's happening as whatever Hoid is doing, using, or has innately. And then there's always a possibility of it being something we haven't heard of yet. Tl;dr: He could be a Shardholder, or he could be using the same unknown method(s) as the Heralds and/or Hoid, or something else entirely.

Hmm. No, it's more like, goals relating to yourself and goals relating to others, so as survival is self-oriented, that would go in internal. Editing to reflect.

So, everybody's trying to classify the Shards, so I thought I'd throw in my two cents. I've got two categories, internal and external. Internal: Honor, Devotion, Odium, Survival (with current info) External: Ruin, Preservation, Endowment, Cultivation, Dominion Internal Shards are self-oriented, goals that relate to yourself, while external Shards are other-oriented, goals that relate to the world. I tried to make it a Physical/Cognitive/Spiritual divide, but all the external ones came out as Physical (except maybe Dominion and Endowment) and I couldn't decide which Realm to put the others in. This worked better. Further subdividing/disagreement/extensions are welcome!

Okay, I'm about to have a weeklong internet hiatus, so. Swimmingly and QuiteLeftInch got half of it each. The answer I was thinking of was Hoid's various storytelling styles across worlds. You two can fight it out or something.

ANON DOR POWER OF THE 99% I AM LAUGHING SO HARD RN

Swimmingly is on the right track...

Dusts fall and smoke rises.