Kasimir
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Thanks Meta, appreciated. I should really start getting Drake's tallybot to work for this game. As a guy who once GMed me at about this time last year told me, you're overcomplicating this. The Elims function exactly like a normal Elim team Stick gets it. As soon as I get contemporary with the thread, you will have your vc. Hyperposter habits die hard even when GMing I guess. I could update the script I'm using to track player activity (currently for GMing purposes) to fetch raw post counts as well but not really essential functionality right now. More relevant to get the tallybot to work to ease vc pressure. This is the current VC I have unless there is someone else's votes missing. As usual, please @ if you do not see your vote reflected:
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Ah, but you were Kjell then. Not my problem if you choose to play the exact target of my example You, an ostensible philosopher, should know better than to confuse a synchronic truth claim with a diachronic truth claim :eyes: FWIW, as I notice the vcs seem to not tally with mine: People please @ me if you notice anything awry. Edited to add: This is brought to you courtesy of auto votecount, which saves lives. Or, as it may be, damns them in some cases.
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Sure? Gozer the Gozerian votes would count then, just FYI It's why this rule clarification exists - I don't trust the Village to remember we're a valid route to the Elim wincon and to block a hammer. Hence blocking the problem by only having votes for either Fifth or myself become valid at parity.
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I should further clarify this is info I'm happy to clarify early because the version of the public rules the committee received included this clarification. Attempts to exe either of us prior to parity will be considered invalid votes, e.g. as if you guys decided to vote for Gozer the Gozerian.
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No, counterfactual orders is for another ruleset Drake and I were working on which allows players to win in multiple timelines and possible worlds. Our current view is it's probably maybe a tad more complicated than KKC but the rules fit on two pages.
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To be clear, we can't accept conditional orders in this game.
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Praise Stick! \o/
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Rule Clarifications: Player List:
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LG92: Day One - wcgw >>> Kasimir was removed but saved by Elan! The cycle has begun and will end on Sunday, 29th January 2022 at 1100hrs SGT (GMT+8)! All role PMs should be sent by now. Please alert me or my extremely honorable and underappreciated co-GM @Fifth Scholar if you have not received your role PMs. Please be reminded that PMs are closed. P.S. For players who haven't been GMed by me before, please don't post until I've reserved the second post in this thread for the player list and rule clarifications. Thank you!
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*THE DEAD DOC OPENS* *ANGRY ANIMAL NOISE* A Holy GREEN VILLAGE LIGHT SHINES DOWN ON FIFTH. *TRIUMPHANT CHORAL FANFARE* LO, THIS IS MY HEIR, WHOM I SCANNED ON N1 AND HEREBY DO DESIGNATE ALL LEGAL AUTHORITY AND POW- Oh crem wrong game. Sorry, wrong thread. Brb. *THE DEAD DOC CLOSES* *EXEUNT, PURSUED BY MODS*
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Keep in mind this game is set in the SE subforum, but also, sure, go ahead
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What makes you think there are roles in this game?
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I can neither confirm nor deny: You will get a GM PM The presence of arson A mechanic that can destroy flips for good A Weapon of Doom capable of nuking every player in the game Twenty SKs This is actually just an elaborate con game to get you all to sign up for pure regulars More arson Third party conversion faction Neutrals everywhere This should cover it for now, I think...
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I dunno, some of you spicy ones might decide having no GM PM is authentic blackout flipless experience...where even you don't know how you will flip :eyes:
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#readthesyllabusbro Sure, but I'd also recommend reading this thread if you are new: This clarifies the rules and etiquette for playing an SE game. Welcome aboard!
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This game is hosted on the forum. Players won't have a doc unless they are Evil or dead or a third party faction, e.g. neutral or SK or converter. There is another doc called the 'Spec(tator) Doc' where players go if they want to watch/spectate but not play.
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Sorry, what are you asking...? To join as a player or for a spec doc?
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The players when this game actually works and does not cause extreme frustration, existential Angst, or despair: Elan, Straw, Wilson, and Fifth when that happens: Me tbh fr fr: Which is your reminder the game will start and sign-ups close in under eleven hours!
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I guess the final thing I can say is, and this is a bit OOG and meta-gaming but I guarantee some players will be having this in their heads anyway once the game starts: -I played MR56 and was one of the players banging his head against the wall hardest and begging for death because fliplessness and blackout. At that time I only solved via vote analysis so the game drove me up the wall. I actually DK if I'd handle fliplessness better now. This probably tells you something about what this gameplay experience is designed to be (i.e. would I really design a game just to piss players off? Like ok but a game only designed for the GM's amusement is sadistic and bad design - most of the time you have to have a basic value proposition or the belief it can be fun for players.) All the same, I can't guarantee that my game design will alleviate a lot of the frustration, or that the committee was wise to clear this game. So again, telling people upfront to strongly reconsider signing up if they hate the idea of fliplessness is more or less about setting player expectations. Ideally, it won't be frustrating and it's designed to be playable, just maybe not as easy as a standard game. -In a way I don't think the chaos judgement is about the game design, it's about you and how you want to play. Certainly it's easier to be chaotic when you don't know what's going on, but I think we've talked about this before in MR61 - keep in mind there's often a chaos tax to how you play. And Striker and Aman are the kings of faking roles in blackouts Edited to add: Part of this is best left for the AAR, but it doesn't fully help that SE only has so many actually flipless games in play history, meaning working out if I've got the balance right can be difficult. So it's worth letting players be aware of this upfront. Even MR56 wasn't quite designed to be flipless - just an unintentional result of two different roles interacting. I've spent the past few days reading more R-21 flipless games than a sane guy should have to, courtesy of Mads and her home forum (I can't even say some of it here), which is helping me get an idea of inherent balance factors, e.g. how hard a climb is this for various alignments. I can't guarantee that we've gotten everything just right, but I have a co-GM, @Fifth Scholar, precisely for this reason. I'll leave further comments for the actual AAR when we see how this game goes. Long story short, probably not awful as far as game experience goes, and there are good reasons to believe we've done our best, but also, caveat emptor.
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I really don't know how to give you a good number. If you're Village, you're going to have to deal with no flips, which is exactly what it says on the tin. Are you the kind of player who can live with not knowing for sure what anyone who ever died is, Village, Elim, vegetable, mineral, SK, converter? If you can't and you think that sounds like hell to you, don't play this game. Then there's the blackout element which means that all players start out knowing are the rules I've shared. There are things no one knows about and you all have to discover the rules as you go along. Is that frustrating to you or not? Then rate it based on how much you think that annoys you. You can definitely spectate - I'll put you on the spec list first but you're free to let me know your final decision before sign-ups close. Edited to add: I guess you could say blackouts have an additional layer of chaos because since no one knows the rules, players have felt free to lie 'creatively' like V!Striker pretending to be a neutral, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Added.
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It's an extremely cursed video. I hear the SCP Foundation may be considering requisitioning custody of the video. No idea. We're still in contact at the moment, but I think we'll need this secret weapon to get rid of the Eliminator imposter pod people. Hackers. Whatever. Gotta fight fire with fire, you know?
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More seriously, flavour-wise they'll be handled similarly to the NKs/DDoSes. We're totally covert here and keeping under the radar of the mods to handle this as a community don't look at Elan don't look at Elan don't draw her attention pls pls but Fifth does know a few neat tricks about what we can do to get those nasty imposters to go away if you guys can just ID them for us. It's why I looped him in on this to begin with. FWIW I'm not a 1337 hacker but I do have a very cursed cat video the real Wyrm sent me (happy birthday you bloodthirsty backstabber), and sending it to any imposter you guys identify on loop should get them to leave this subforum alone for good Edited to add: Not to say we can't do it ourselves but it usually takes a whole Village and all that. I don't really want to be traumatising ten innocent actual SE friends with Wyrm's cat video just so we can find the one imposter in that set the long way! Hopefully you guys will speed up the process for us Edited to add 2: @Ashbringer Though tbh if you guys are into mob justice, mass reporting and the likes (who am I kidding, that's why y'all so bloodthirsty and in this subforum, right?) I guess you could just terrify/torment them into leaving this subforum alone yourselves. Maybe you have a buddy on a darknet market. Whatever works [Actual genuine OOC comment: Largely winging this but recall that this game is a product of @|TJ| challenging me to have funny write-ups for once so Fifth and I are more or less going full-throated funny/absurd. Rule of cool will apply, plus a lot of 'lol what happened to worldbuilding and narrative consistency.' So I've listed the options above but really, you'll find out when we do. And if you guys happen to put something we find to be comedic gold in the thread, maybe it'll show up in the write-up, who knows? :eyes: ]
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No problem, I'll set you up. Added to the list!
