Wrath

That's why they have to find a way to make him choose a champion. It wouldn't be fun if it was simple, right?

I think the point is that if Odium appoints a champion then he's giving the right to choose a champion to his opponents, too. There are rules to duels, after all, and those rules can give you an advantage if you know how to find it - like Sadeas finding the loophole in Adolin's words and sending four Shardbearers against him instead of two. Odium doesn't have to declare that there are rules to the battle, but if he does then the heroes can use them to their advantage.

Szeth gains his abilities from the Honourblade he carries, and an Honourblade can only heal injuries from a Shardblade if it's one of the two with access to the Progression Surge. It may or may not be because an Honourblade consumes more Stormlight than ordinary Surgebinding. Kaladin doesn't have Progression but he can heal a Shardblade injury with enough Stormlight, though only so long as it doesn't sever his spine.

It's more likely that Dalinar will go to Azir to organise an alliance with their new government and encounter Lift. His mission is to find the other Surgebinders and unite humanity, after all.

I suspect Axies exists just to give us more detail about spren, but we can always hope he'll turn into more.

Even without that it would be possible to express some sort of meaning via glyphs. He could even set up a system before he leaves to make things easier. With just glyphs alone he can easily tell people where he is, for example, since each region has a glyphpair.

It'd be amusing if progressing to the next Ideal automatically teaches Kaladin to read.

To be honest I would have thought that if the Ryshadium were of any Shard it would be Honour, given that they are bound to a human they consider worthy.

We do not.

It's more like Aona and AonDor, but even that is a stretch.

That's an excellent point. Maybe I have the right idea but it takes more than two Surgebinders to forge Plate?

There's definitely a symmetry to the Stonewards not abandoning their oaths.

I'm pretty sure that there's a way of using Surgebinding to purge a Listener of their spren. After all humanity enslaved the Parshmen somehow. So as long as the Voidbringers aren't annihilated the species can continue. We just need someone to teach the survivors to fuse with spren again.

What Shardplate really is and how it's created is still a big mystery even though we've learnt what Shardblades are. But it seems like Shardplate can't just be made of spren like Shardblades or Surgebinders would be able to hear their screams. This theory owes a nod to cris34b's thread about the Surgebinding Chart, which got me thinking about the relationships between the different orders of the Knights Radiant. He noticed that as well as lines connecting the orders that share Surges there are also lines connecting the "opposite" orders who would seem to have nothing in common. In particular we have a line connecting Windrunners and Lightweavers, and we know just how different those orders are. So my theory is this: in order to create Shardplate for someone, a Knight Radiant must co-operate with a member of the opposite order. I don't know how exactly it would work, but any two Surgebinders working together would be very powerful and possibly have some very strange co-operative abilities. The reason I think this might be true is that it adds another level of checks to the power of a Surgebinder. They progress in strength as they speak ideals (or ideal-equivalents) and with each ideal they are bound to behave in certain ways in order to retain their abilities. That solidifies each order's specific mission, which should serve to make them a unified body, but it doesn't do anything to make the different orders part of a greater whole. If the only way to create Shardplate is to work together with the order with which you have the least in common, then the entire organisation of the Knights Radiant are bound together. To get stronger, to do more, they have to work together. On a storytelling level this would mean that Kaladin and Shallan need to continue to work together, and that Dalinar will have to help Renarin create his Shardplate. I suspect that won't be so easy for Dalinar to accept, but that might be a discussion for a different day.

Urithiru is built to defend against the Everstorm just like other buildings are built to withstand Highstorms. It comes down to whether or not the Listeners have to actually be out in the storms to be transformed. If yes, then Urithiru is the perfect place for them. If no...

I expect that Kaladin's next Big Lesson is that he needs to step up as a leader. He's a lighteyes Shardbearer Knight Radiant now and given how stubborn he is it's probably going to take a while before he starts using that new authority properly. He's a Windrunner, and their divine attributes are Protecting and Leading. He's got Protecting down, and he's realised that he can't just pick and choose who he protects, but he still has a way to go with Leading. Jezrien was a king and at least some of the Heralds recognised him as their lord. That's the relative level on which Kaladin should be. I predicted before that his next ideal will be about Leading, and be something like "I will lead those who are leaderless." I expect to hear it before the end of book three.

Yeah, it was definitely Pattern that Syl saw. So the box could have contained Renarin's spren - which would make sense, mind you, because Renarin for almost all of the book is convinced that he has to hide his powers because there's something wrong with them and with him for having them. By keeping his spren in the box he would literally be hiding it.

Oh yes, I truly wish I could read that book.

I believe that going into a Shardpool is a way of entering the Cognitive Realm, and that taking a dip in it changed Rock so that a little more of him is in the CR than usual for a person, which enables him to see spren. Hoid might have used the Shardpool to enter the Cognitive Realm on one planet and pop out on another. And Elantrians use their Shardpool to ascend from the Physical Realm to a cognitive existence, hence their bodies dissolving in what is described as a "release."

I also agree with FeatherWriter. Though when I was reading the book I figured that Renarin was probably hiding a spren in it.

Hmm, well, I'm simply comparing her level of progression with Kaladin's. After all he's our best example at the moment, since we know that Windrunners get Plate, Blades and Squires whereas other orders do not necessarily get all of those. Plus we've seen each step with him. I have a theory about how they get Shardplate but I think I'll save that for another thread.

Shallan and Kaladin were at the same level during the climactic battle (Third Ideal for a Windrunner) at which point they have access to a true Shardblade. Shallan then speaks another truth at the end of the book, which is how Lightweavers progress, so she is now at the Fourth Ideal stage. We don't know what happens when you get to there, though. As for the glyph appearing, well, remember that Shallan has actually been at the Third Ideal stage since childhood and merely repressed the memories of it. That's why she could use a Shardblade in TWoK even if she didn't remember that she could summon it instantly. If a huge glyph ever appeared around her it happened a long time ago.

Well, given that Rlain may already be one of Kaladin's Squires, it's possible that he alone will be able to resist the transformation to Stormform. But I think you're probably right.

Of course even if the word exists on Roshar it isn't necessarily a swearword, that's an interesting point. Different cultures assign different values to their words after all - for example the Japanese word for [the word we're talking about] is equivalent to the English use of "damnation" - a very minor swearword. Perhaps on Roshar it's simply a word used to describe a substance/action and so no one would use it as a curse. Clearly Kalak is a former God King from Nalthis.

I find it more likely that Shallan's mother was a member of the Skybreakers and that's why she tried to kill Shallan when she caught her Surgebinding. Shallan would then be the daughter of a Ghostblood and a Skybreaker. But then I also believe that the Skybreakers as they exist now are a corrupted version of the actual order and consist of Shardbearers rather than actual Surgebinders. In fact I think Nalan is one of the reasons why there are so few Shards in play despite the hundreds of Knights Dalinar saw abandon them.