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Pretty self-explanatory. Do we have standardized names for the people from different planets? (IE: people from Earth are often called Terrans in sci-fi). So what do we call the people of the different cosmere worlds? Sel: Selites? Selians? Selish? Roshar: Rosharans. Scadrial: Scadrians. Threnody: Threnodites. Nalthis: Nalthians. Yolen: Yolenites? Yolens? Yolenii? Ashyn: Ashthities? Ashyrii? Ashyn? Braize: Braizians? Braizites? Taldain: Taldites? Taldanians? Talithites? This is an important topic! We need standardization across the 17th shard! (Also, with the plethora of topics discussing peoples from the different worlds right now *cough* Roshar vs. Scadrial *cough*, knowing what to refer to the people as will help). EDITED: Confirmed names are in BOLD.

It's pretty clear he was a cremhole. A jerkface. An angry, bitter, racist punk who got a ton of power dumped in his lap. For all that, he wasn't completely evil: he didn't want the world to end, and he wanted to keep humanity alive. So go him? And it's true he had Ruin in his head forever and a day. But that doesn't forgive his actions, up to and including spiking himself in the first place. Did he want the world to end? No. Did he do things in order to protect humanity? Sure. Does that excuse the unimaginable pile of evil he heaped on the world? Nope. Not at all.

Thanks for the clarification! That makes sense!

Good points! It seems likely that bonding a spren does permanently change your genetic makeup, giving you a higher chance of lighteyed children. This isn't confirmed, and could be down to the probability that people who bond shards marry lighteyes, but does seem likely. So there's something there for sure. Nevertheless, I don't buy there being anything between darkeyes and Odium: there are FAR more darkeyes than lighteyes (like there are on Earth), and Odium's influence seems to lead to red eyes, not dark ones. (See stormform)

Sorry, but people do get one dark/one light eye from genetics. It's rare, and it's called heterachromia. (example under spoiler tags) The most likely explanation is the simplest one: Alethkar was formerly ruled by the Radiants, who all had light eyes because of their Investiture. Light eyes were then associated with rule in Alethkar. When the Radiants disbursed, the association remained. When a person bonded a shardblade, their eyes lightened. This served to reinforce the 'Lighteyes rule, darkeyes drool' mentality. The eyes described as dark are just normal dark eyes. The eyes described as light are the same, normal light eyes (note that Hoid's eyes are blue, and it appears that they are similar to the Alethi blue eyes, as they ascribed to him the position of lighteyes). Don't get me wrong; Roshar definitely has some unique genetics going on. They have light amber eyes (we get brown eyes that are light enough to be considered light, but that's a far cry from amber!) as well as violet eyes. And they have plenty of darkeyes in interesting colours (here, almost all of the dark eyed people have brown eyes, whereas in Roshar extremely dark green eyes and extremely dark violet eyes are both mentioned). Please note: it appears that what makes a darkeye a darkeye, is that you can't tell their eyes as anything other than dark/blackish (the most common eye colour on Earth, BTW) unless you see them in just the right lighting (in much the same way as it happens here, take anyone with 'black' eyes, shine a bright enough light or catch the right angle and you'll see they're actually brown eyes).

Would be incredibly hard - almost everything would have to be CGI and the makeup department would have to go crazy: Rosharins (Rosharites? Roshani?) aren't ethnically the same as Terrans (that's us, btw. We're Terrans). Most Rosharins have a blend of ethnic traits: Alethi have the skin colour of Polynesians, with epicanthal folds on their eyes, but with a 'classical', almost Greek-god-like build and bone structure, and light coloured eyes among the Nobility. And that's just one Ethnicity! The Shin appear to be ethnically northern-European (skin tone, no epicanthal folds), but have a tendency to round bone structure, shorter stature and 'child-like' features. More likely to see as an animated series due to these restrictions, but the stigma associated with animated film/TV as being childish is a major problem.

Where do we get the quote that Aluminum interferes with Gold healing? AFAIK, it doesn't? Just re-read Alloy of Law/Shadows of Self, and it never comes up. You think Wayne would have noticed, or they'd have used Aluminum against Miles Hundredlives if it did?

Yes. Yes you can. There's a WOB somewhere, but yeah, any metal in your body really

It's an important distinction! Magnetism is subject to many constraints (especially with regards to which metals are magnetically active), constraints allomancy doesn't share. Furthermore, magnetism causes lots of interesting side effects (inducing current, messing with electromagnetic transmissions like radio waves, that kind of thing). Allomancy doesn't have those effects. Allomancy is, however, SIMILAR to magnetism, in that it can only directly push or directly pull. It also has differing effectiveness based on size and distance, which is also similar to magnetism. But it is not magnetism, nor is it 'scientifically' in the same boat.

Only if it gives me feruchemical gold then?

Hello all! I devour books. Got into LOTR when I was 8, and had read/reread it 6-7 times by the time I was 12 and got into the Silmarillion. From there I went onto the WOT fan train (when knife of Dreams just came out). I have devoured that series multiple times since then. Probably read the first 11 WOT books 8-9 times each. While waiting for RJ to write book 12, discovered this new upcoming author Brandon Sanderson and fell in love with his stuff. Became a huge fan, and while I was horrified when RJ died, I was confident and pleased when I heard Brandon would be finishing it. Since then, I've read pretty much all of Sanderson's stuff multiple times (am currently doing a Mistborn reread, and am on Shadows of Self). I have a background in history, martial arts, religion (primarily Christianity, my faith, but have studied basic outlines of other major religions), and engineering. I am a huge geek, obviously, and I love this stuff. Used to be active in the old Timewasters forum, but didn't really make the jump here until recently (so, what, 4 years after we switched? more?) expect I'll be on here a lot, because Sanderson is awesome, and so are you guys.

Hrmm. I suspect that the Aluminum around the head acts to interfere with signals from the spiritual/cognitive realm (is emotional Allomancy spiritual, cognitive or both?), probably a bit like a Faraday cage. The question then is; does the spiritual/cognitive realm come from the Allomancer's location on the physical realm, or is it directly from the spiritual/cognitive realm? I suspect the latter, which would be why it only helps (if that is the case? Quotation?) as only 2/3rds or so of the brain is covered, thus it significantly reduces but does not completely eliminate the effect. (If, however, you were in a full Aluminium hazmat suit you'd probably be 100% protected).

I suspect that leaving the planet you're on has a LOT to do with Intent (same with world-wrapping). Mistborn Secret History Spoilers! Leaving a planet might also work much the same way as how it works for the Elves when they're leaving Middle Earth for the undying lands in LOTR; Arda is spherical (at least after the Akallabeth), yet instead of sailing around the world, the Elves take a 'straight path' that connects them to the undying lands (a path that could be described as tangent to the surface of Arda, but leads into a separate realm where Valinor was moved following the Akallabeth).

The Skybreakers are skilled at 'Separating the Innocent from the Guilty' - which while tangentially related to lies, is not an ability to sense lies.

As VR tech improves, you play and enjoy Marmot Sim 2025. It's great. Your bane is that for the rest of your life you catch movement out of the corner of your eye. It's always unexpected, and always random. I wish to be an Electrum compounder.

I don't think I disagree with you: Scadrial will win. But I don't think Scadrial will win handily, nor will they conquer: the sociopolitical situation in the basin is too unstable to support a long war effort. I suspect that Scadrial would win a few major victories, suffer some setbacks and get bogged down in a long war of conquest. At that point, they'd likely do one of two things: Ally themselves with local nations, supplying them with arms/information and fighting a war on the backs of a locally raised army (the way the British did in India and the Spanish did in Central America). Or, more likely, they'd win key victories, then quickly negotiate favourable peace terms (political changes, imbalanced trade deals, that kind of thing). What I'm saying WOULDN'T work is a WW2 style invasion, where the Scadrians throw together a vast,professional industrial army and conquer Roshar piece by piece (as many of the other commentators are envisioning). The Scadrian people and society wouldn't be willing to support that style of conquest.

All valid points, and filed under 'superiour technology' and 'why they'll probably win the pitched battles'. The main difference, however, is that Roshar has a military culture and experience. These are people used to warfare, used to losing sons, brothers, husbands, fathers to the rigors of war. Soldiers who have seen death, and commanders who have known what it's like to have a battle plan fall apart, but know how to salvage the plan anyway. What Roshar has, and Scadrial lacks, is experience, and more crucially, experienced officers. And in warfare, that makes an incredible difference. The Elendel basin completely lacks military experience and emotional hardening. So they WILL suffer casualties, and minor defeats. They WILL have significant loss of life and materiel. They'll win all the big battles for sure, but with the casualties piling up, and with progress much slower than expected or forecast, the Elendel public would likely very rapidly lose the motivation to pursue an offensive war. So while Scadrial would 'win' the war, I doubt they'd successfully conquer Roshar unless they had incredible motivation, which is lacking in the proposed scenario.

I neither granted a wish, nor provided a bane, nor posted a wish: Just commented. So the rules don't apply, and it's Stormgates wish you're supposed to be granting!

Shardplate appears to have an extremely high hardness, likely similar to tungsten carbide or boron carbide. It responds like a magical metal/ceramic hybrid. This means that individual standard bullets from small arms will be largely ineffective against shardplate, but repeated firing will cause cracks, and then failure of a section of plate. In more detail, charged Shardplate seems to respond as ablative armour - I doubt any small arms fire, even a heavy anti-materiel bullet, would one-shot a shardbearer as the armour would ablate away in a blast of stormlight before being penetrated; this is what we see with fully-charged shardplate: the stormlight protects the user by having the armour ablate away in a pseudo explosion. (See nearly every fight with shardplate, it breaks apart into pieces of molten metal and light - the armour section is broken first and then the person can be killed). This absorbs and redirects the kinetic energy and the projectile used to shatter the section of plate. The exception is with depleted shardplate: When depleted, shardplate acts somewhat like a cross between a metal and a ceramic. It cracks and shatters instead of bending and deforming, and it doesn't ablate nearly as well. Likely an anti-materiel rifle with a heavy duty, high hardness round (tungsten or depleted uranium, that kind of thing) would both break AND penetrate the plate, killing the shardbearer. Most high-powered weapons, however, would simply damage or shatter the plate under most circumstances. Shardplate, from the way it's described and used, is a cross between personnel armour and armoured vehicle armour. So I'd be curious as to how it would respond to anti-tank munitions (like WWII Era AP rounds, HEAT rounds and APFSDS rounds). How well would the bearer survive the impact? Certainly any heavy duty anti tank round would shatter the plate, but how well would a fully charged plate ablate the impact? How well will it strengthen the bearer to survive the shockwave?

59% Elsecaller 39% Truthwatcher 37% Windrunner 35% Lightweaver 24% Bondsmith 22% Dustbringer 17% Willshaper 17% Skybreaker 12% Edgedancer Well done on the quiz! I guess I'll be studying with Jasnah...

Era 2 Scadrial massively outmatches Roshar (as it stands now) in terms of technology and economy. Roshar massively outmatches Scadrial in terms of military theory, experience, tactics and training. Scadrial had 1000 years of suppression under TLR, then 300+ years of peace, time Roshar has spent at war. Nevertheless, technology is just a huge advantage. Would Scadrial win in a pitched battle? Almost certainly. Would they win in a defensive war on Scadrian soil? Without a doubt. However, I can't help but see this as a Vietnam war style situation. The Basin is politically fractured. The Scadrians would be undeniably the aggressors. Scadrian mass media is a thing (with newspapers/etc.). Scadrial doesn't have the history or motivation for the glory of the Empire and Imperialism, nor the sense of local conflict and a mad rush for resources that motivated the Europeans in their imperialist endeavors in the 19th century. Would Scadrial win the battles? Yes. But with significant casualties; enough to discourage people back home. Would they win the war? Only with sufficient motivation, which frankly, they don't have. They have only a tenuous connection to their slave class of some 300 years ago - Scadrian peacelovers would certainly point out that Rosharin slavery could easily be abolished by diplomacy and importing technology, leaving the Scadrian's without sufficient motivation for war, let alone the Total War of WWI/WWII. A much more interesting war, however, would be The Final Empire vs. a newly unified Alethkar under Gavilar. That would be much better balanced and more interesting conflict.

Oh man. I've got a bad feeling about this.

Great nightwatcher bane! +1 But you wished for nothing, so your bane is every bane between the last time someone did this and now... I wish that any and all internet trolls would feel a punch to the face, any and every time they attempted to troll or harass someone (online or off).

Don't underestimate old guys (and gals) who stay in shape! My father is 60, and absolutely COULD keep up on a battlefield. (He still regularly plays hockey at a fairly high level, and works out 3-4 times a week). The difference is that his recovery time is a lot longer afterwards. With the aid of shardplate, and especially with stormlight, a fit individual could keep up for a good long time. So don't underestimate Dalinar!

I, representing Hoidhunter, am so sorry Stormgate. So very, very sorry. (Wish granted, Hoidhunter). As your bane Hoidhunter, for the rest of your life you will have the star wars movies overlaying your vision like a filter, with their sound doing the same to your hearing. You can still interact normally with people, but Star Wars (including the prequels and the new one!) is always there. With you. Always. I wish that I could learn languages fluently (accent and all), quickly, easily and with a minimum of effort.