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    Eol, Piff and I have been working on a game set on the Pantheon. There are QF and MR variants, with some roles exclusive to one or the other, and some varying. Anything without an indicator is in both variants. Which one do you guys prefer? Spoilers for Sixth of the Dusk! (Not major ones, but more than you'll find in the free excerpt.)
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    I've said it before; I don't think Peng is an OC. What do you mean by a 'setup'? Do you think the OCs got him lynched and saved to gain some trust? It would work a lot better to use the OC kill, and they've wasted a one-off protection power on a maneuver with very little to gain. Beyond that, if it were truly a setup, they would need to know what Cultivation was doing with their secret vote (since they hadn't Invested at that point). And I really doubt the OCs would have heard of that so early and not managed to shatter Cultivation before the lockdown came into effect. Peng's vote was placed with 45 minutes to go in the cycle. Do you think the OCs saw it and decided to risk their one-off lynch protection power to preserve a voice that might have worked to undermine you? If I were an OC, I would be hanging onto that power to protect my teammates. As for the multiple LOs: This is the most logically sound part of the case against Peng, IMO. However, spectating QF2 has left me with a healthy suspicion of that reasoning. (A good part of the discussion in that game, and at least three of the lynches, came from the fact there just couldn't be another Villager Gunner. The Mutineers didn't lose a single player that game.) Also, I think this is worth noting (emphasis mine): Unfortunately, while I don't agree with the move against Peng, I also don't have much in the way of suspicion to contribute. Guess I'll throw a poke vote on Alvron.
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    I think that's fairly clear; the Bloodsealer on Maw was part of the OC plan. Unless there's a Bloodsealer that gave them warning in a PM (which I doubt), that means it was an OC. So what do we know? -Vine, Maw, Gramps and Dorin were all OCs -They tended to distribute their votes around multiple potential lynches -There is at least one OC left, holding Odium -Any village kills need to be done through lynches -One of the Eliminator tactics has been to cast suspicion on Winter (Dowanx, Maw, Gamma (mild, on Nalthis)) I suspect there are at least two OCs left, including one Bloodsealer and one Awakener (which seems like such a useful role for them that they almost certainly have one). We can check that there's two at the end of the next night, since Odium needs to Invest to kill a non-Shard. As for suspicions, well: People I kind of trust: Snoopy - I think the Shards would have done something about him if he wasn't actually their spokesperson. Instead we got a joint reveal-RP between him and Aonar. Winter - By default, because of Snoopy Bort and Eol - Because of Dowanx's lynch last cycle. Bort brought up Winter being framed and its ties to Dowanx, and Eol expanded on it with the addition of vote analysis Peng - Very early in the game (~1/4 of the way through the first cycle, predating any thread discussion) he suggested all of us on Nalthis should stay there semi-permanently. If he was an OC, that would have made three OCs (him, Gamma, Dowanx) and two Villagers (Luckat and myself, and I can't be sure about Luckat), which isn't a favourable distribution and I doubt he would bring it up of his own volition. People I suspect: Araris - was also suspicious of Winter in the thread Jain - his posting habits remind me a bit too much of MR4 People I would like to hear more from: Feligon Tulir Ash Sarcomere Meta ------- Luckat, I like that idea. Thinking about the damage an invested OC will cause: Cultivation - open a PM (largely harmless, potentially helpful), secret vote (potential issue, x1 vote change, public result) Dominion - change a vote (potential issue, x2 vote change, public result) Honor - can protect someone else (OCs know who not to hit) Preservation - protected (opportunity cost only) Devotion - can't be lynched (largely harmless unless they're a potential lynch target) The major dangers are vote manipulation powers, but the OCs can't misuse those without revealing themselves to the Shards (and hence everyone). There's a maximum of x3 votes they can change; if we propose the Shards come down hard should a valuable player come under fire, we can avoid the worst of that risk (but the Shards will reveal themselves in the process). That, and the village becoming absorbed in finding Odium and forgetting there are other OCs to find. Edit for the return of the blue text Awakener
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    I do. Nalthis was silent. Destroying the world would force us into a new situation, which might make us start talking more. Gramps, that's not the first time you've attracted my attention. You appear to be doing the experienced-player version - jumping in with easy answers, like this and the benefits of lynches, but contributing little of substance. So, Gamma, who are you suspicious of? Edit: Ostrich, we're basically going with the second half of Aonar's plan. Maw is roleblocked and can't kill Shards. If we lynch him, we don't know where Odium is any more.
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    Vineyardawg and Antillar Maximus, what were your results for last cycle? As things stand, I'm more suspicious of Antillar, and I'll move my vote to him (unless I am persuaded otherwise) if it looks like the lynch might swing elsewhere. A quick model suggests that a symmetrical witness counterclaim is preferred for the OCs in all cases except where it's already probable the true killer will be lynched (which was not the case when Antillar made his claim), so that's not helpful.
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    Cognition So it seems like there's two major issues under discussion. Snoopy Two camps here: those who see Snoopy's hinting as suspicious, and those who see questions directed at Snoopy as fishing for information. Maill - challenged Snoopy's hinting during the ngiht cycle, and his name has been brought up (by Martin and Snoopy) as suspicious because of this. Has since said his intention was to prevent a Worldhopper giving away information. Clink - has been outspoken about his suspicion for Snoopy, and has overtly asked to be given information. Winter - has defended Snoopy, saying they exchanged roles in a private PM. She hasn't been involved in the discussion since the start of the day cycle. Jain - has voted for Clink, for fishing for information, and offered advice to Snoopy Martin - has voted for Maill, because of his questioning of Snoopy during the night cycle Gramps - Has said he's unsure about both Snoopy and Clink, and has voted for Clink. I count myself in the 'undecided' camp. As I see it, there are two motivations for Snoopy revealing what he did - responding to challenges with hints at information, or trying to create a distraction. (It would need to be a well-planned distraction, given the fragmented way the information came out, but not impossible). These possibilities reflect fundamentally different player approaches, so I would like to ask a question: Winter and Snoopy, how much discussion occurred in your PM before you revealed roles to each other? (I don't see this revealing sensitive information, but if anyone thinks it would, please say so!) Sarc Sarc voted for Meta, based on Meta's potential to hurt the Worldhoppers. Again, the camps are those who find Sarc's actions suspicious, and those who find the former group suspicious. Meta - Sarc's accused, and thought Sarc's logic was flawed Winter - Disliked Sarc voting without suspicion Vineyeran - Thought Sarc's logic was flawed Araris - Suspicious of Winter's reasoning, and the speed of her vote I count myself in the first camp here. Potential damage and potential gain go hand in hand. By Sarc's logic, lynching Ruin could be a good idea, because Ruin could be manipulated into killing Worldhoppers. (Ruin is a safe role, so that's something of a misrepresentation, but the same argument could be made for a Mistborn or Coinshot in the standard Scadrial game). Sarc may have been a Worldhopper's genuine vote, or an OC vote, or a Worldhopper fishing for reactions. ----- People I would like to hear more from: Alv, Aonar, Mek, Tulir, Ash, Eol Pretty sure the question Aonar is asking is whether Satrams said anything in the Yolen PM that would make the OCs want to kill him.
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    So Satrams was a normal Worldhopper, which means he was killed by an OC, not Odium. There was no mention of another attack in the writeup. Given protections are revealed, as are OCs hitting Shards, what about a Shard-shatter hitting a Worldhopper? If it would have been revealed, we know Satrams was double-tapped. Any Witness reports? We have enough protective roles to ensure you're not hit. (If no-one comes forward, can we conclude that if there is a Witness, they're an OC looking for Ruin/Bloodsealers?) Anyway, we want to use this opportunity. Devotion has, intentionally or not, put the easiest lynch target out of our reach - which, at this stage of the game, is a good thing! Now we'll need to have a proper conversation. First off, I'd like to ask Cognition to clarify his vote for Alv at the beginning of last cycle. Yes, first cycle reasoning is always shoddy. But you've traditionally opposed the idea of poke votes, and yet ...I have trouble reading this as anything other than poking Alv into saying something. So is there a deeper meaning? I'm surprised at the amount of information Gerald (and Winter, to a lesser extent) revealed during the night. It's probable he was flustered by Meta's comment at the end of the day, a scenario that seems more likely for a villager (since I would expect an OC to at least try getting a response from their doc-mates). Or it may have been a deliberate effort to bait attention. (Too tired to think through possibilities right now.) Edit: formatting
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    Can I suggest we don't go much further with the analysis of Cultivation's vote? I've said before that the identities of the Shardholders are sensitive info, and I don't think we should actively try to identify Cultivation unless we're going for a full reveal.
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    There are a lot of places Aonar's plan could go wrong. Revelation of Shards: -Not all Shards agree to the plan, and some roles are held back. Solution: Endowment doesn't reveal the Shardholders unless they've all agreed in thread. Or, once a number of Shardholders have agreed, reveal them all, pushing the others to join in. This can't account for inactivity. -An OC fakeclaims Endowment, and we're left with overlapping sets of possible Shardholders. Solution: This can't be maintained long, since Shards have the ability to send messages with their Investiture. We ask each Shardholder to send a specific message to a specific person/s. Only Odium can pretend to be a Shardholder (and I'm guessing that when people are told they've been Invested, they also learn what their power is). Assigning an OC to receive messages is a danger, though - they could confirm another OC, or frame a true Shardholder. Since this idea for clearing would take a cycle, Odium will have one free shot at the Shardholders. If we delay revealing the Shard distribution, their chance of hitting a plan-critical Shard is reduced somewhat. By its very nature, though, taking this path will reveal many OCs. -Two Shardholders claim the same Shard. The best case scenario. Solution: We have exactly two candidates for Odium. If we have Ruin invest Hoid in a prior cycle, both can be roleblocked. We need to determine Hoid, though, and that has its own problems. Roleblocking Odium (assuming we've accurately determined its holder): -Choosing an OC immediately By this point, the Shards' distribution is public knowledge. Considering the lockdown potential of the plan, if Ruin happens to Invest an OC, I'd be very surprised if they didn't throw themselves under the bus so Odium can take out Ruin. Solution: This is another problem solved by having Hoid invested by Ruin, as a confirmed-good player who can roleblock. Otherwise, there's roughly a 75% chance (taking the standard 20% Eliminators) that the target is not an OC. -Choosing an OC later The OC still have their non-Shard kill, which they can use. If Ruin finds a friendly Investiture target, and chooses not to reveal them, they will eventually be killed. Solution: Preservation and Honor have protection abilities, and - by this point - have no reason to be using them on other Shards. If Ruin has effectively confirmed their first Investiture target, there's a good argument to reveal them so they can be protected. -Choosing a sneaky OC immediately ...Having thought through that case, there's now an argument for the first Invested being an OC and hiding. If the rest of their team can hide for a while, the worldhoppers will be whittled down by the lynch and night kill as in a standard game. Then, when they decide to attract some attention, they stop blocking Odium. Two OCs are revealed, but they gain a lot of very useful knowledge in the process. If there was a way to reveal and confirm Hoid, the plan might be workable. But short of just asking them to step forward, and hoping only one person does, I don't know how we could go about confirming Hoid's identity. (Plus, this requires delaying a cycle for Ruin to Invest them.) Without Hoid, the plan's success requires the village to make good decisions in a limited timeframe - which has been difficult in the past, IMO. We'd essentially be playing the entire game in one cycle, both in the sense of gathering information and in determining the outcome. That, or leaving the outcome to what is essentially a dice roll. I have to agree with vineyarddawg here - that's not how I want to play the game. On to other topics! Killing inactives: I support this idea if and only if Ruin's kill produces either fallen Shards or gives the Shard intact to someone else. If it shatters the Shard, then - until enough time has passed for inactive shards to be given to Endowment - it's not worth losing a potentially useful power. Satrams has brought up the possibility of some sort of regulation on world PMs - in the spirit of Meta's strategy of removing Eliminator options. I would propose that we freeze the worlds as they are. The players are distributed semi-randomly, and OCs (I think) would be actually distributed randomly. It's a fair way to divide it up, unless we want to chop up the player list and be certain.
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    I think the first thing to note is that the position of Shards is sensitive info. Once Odium and co. know where the shards are, they can use both their kills effectively. So - not the first game it's been said, and probably not the last - don't give away your role, or lack of role, easily. Awakeners should be careful who they talk to as well. (Odium and co. can't double-tap to get through a layer of protection, though they may do so anyway at the start if they want to avoid the uncertainty.) A few thoughts: -Does there need to be a Fallen Shard for Endowment to use their Investiture ability? If not, and they know the identity of a Shard other than Odium, consider Investing them just for the sake of the message. -If Cultivation is starting multiple PMs this turn, it's safer for them not to be included in every group. -In terms of role distribution, I would guess Odium and co. will probably have an Awakener (to sort out how to apply their kills), possibly a Poisoner, possibly a Lifeless Operator. edit: someone was Awakening with my blue text
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    Raiki sipped her drink, watching the colourful ebb and flow of the crowd. She'd started to grow accustomed to travelling - she no longer gauged any building she slept in for storm-worthiness, and the motionless plants seemed as natural as Roshar's shy breed. Keeping her eyebrows trimmed and dyed let her pass unobtrusively through many fascinating places. Her first visit had been a place of personal history. Elendel had been full of towers, and she knew her family had held one, before being driven out of the city and off the world. Among the mementos of this history were her name, and the savage beating that marked a coming of age. She was supposed to be out hunting her sister's killer. Twei had never returned from Kholinar, murdered before she'd been taught to cross the barriers between worlds. But...no use in her getting killed chasing enemies better equipped in both arms and intelligence. If only one of them was going to survive, it may as well be the sister with ambition, right? Twei had taken pleasure in pickpocketing a single mark. Raiki was going to - to... T'Telir was a good city. The crowd hummed like her father's garden after a highstorm, except that ordered nature was replaced with the wild beauty of people. She would stay here. Cut purses for a while, until she could set down her roots. Then she would build an empire to match the one she'd left in Thaylen City. Let her father choose another heir. It was time to bring the name of Morin to another world.
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    When will the game be starting? I'm going away in a few days, and don't want to sign up if I'm absent for the beginning of the game.
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    Four cannons. Tessa looked up to the sky, and grinned. That made thirteen deaths. She'd survived longer than half of the other tributes! Unfortunately, good food for celebration was in short supply in the arena. Instead, she hummed softly while working the wood in her hands. It wasn't difficult, she'd found. Easier than the heavy seafaring wood of District 4. Though the fact she could sharpen it against a rough stone did suggest it would lose its point quickly. Ah well; it only needed to last a day or two. Tessa, you were supposed to be a nice girl. Why did you have to turn into a psychopath I wasn't kidding about killing a mutt, though having seen the result of this cycle, I'm much less likely to do so again (or at least to announce it in thread beforehand).
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    Tessa eyed the cattle from her hiding spot across the river. Beautiful specimens of Bos taurus canis, probably. She doubted there was anything moving in the arena that wasn't designed to kill. They would make life difficult later on; probably easier to get rid of them now. With so many of them, surely they would attack one of the tributes. She could follow, see which bits were dangerous so she could safely - But by then the tributes would be too spread out. She wouldn't be seen. And that was half the point! Let them know she was community-minded, targeting a threat to them all. They didn't need to know the real reason was that it was meat, not fish. Tessa will be killing (and eating) a mutt this cycle.
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    Tessa spared the cornucopia a brief glance, before turning to regard her fellow tributes. Some were staring at the pile of resources; others surveyed the arena, choosing their terrain. A quick count told her it wasn't worth joining the fray over the cornucopia. She saw Al, the other District 4 tribute, shoot a glance at the river. It was a good idea - a familiar environment, alien to those from the other districts. But...she'd just got away from fish! Did she really want to throw away the one good thing about her situation, hoping the others couldn't swim? Well, maybe she could forage along the banks. But it was the principle that offended her. Some of the other tributes had been singing to calm themselves. She had a song too. As the countdown began, her decision made, she whistled its tune. Always look on the bright side of life! The muttations are worded as 'attacks' in the rules. Do they count as an extra attack point (so can be stopped by defence), or do they act like the knives?
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    Well, if you need females... Tessa, from District 4. She's not looking forward to the Games, but on the bright side, she hasn't been forced to eat seafood since she was chosen. Nasty thing, having a seafood allergy in District 4. (I haven't read/watched The Hunger Games... I'm guessing they tend to consume things from their own districts?)
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    Sorry. Perhaps the Random Number God I consulted was out to get the original lighteyes? Well, if you check that post, you'll notice I carefully defined manipulation to exclude cases of self-preservation. For example, attempting to cast suspicion on you would be manipulation - and that resulted in an untimely roleblock. Attempting to not get lynched afterwards (seriously, why was I still alive by the end!?) would not. So what I said is technically still applicable Well played, Blackthorn loyalists, and thank you Wyrm!
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    I would have revealed myself anyway, Ren I'd have died no matter what I did, and this was my first chance to do an Epic Evil RP. Plus, now you all get to wonder who the final sabotage will be! Norlav, for exposing Brightlord Ace and not dying when he should have? Reihmer, who wouldn't leave me alone in the last few cycles? Mek, who probably shouldn't be staring at Torwel while he's deciding who to kill? Alinel, for not being quite suspicious enough to help the spies out? Eoldren, since we've been studiously ignoring each other the entire game? Kaddar, to deny his personal victory in a bizzare change of order of actions? Jost, for his lucky hit on Jain? Tal, for killing my partner Damon? Newan, for killing the innocent Odysa?
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    Lazy Sunday. Time for some RP. Torwel strolled through the camp, ignoring the countless pairs of eyes following him. Early on - after Kenara's unfortunate interference - there had been calls for his head. He'd talked them down, but the suspicion remained. Now, after so many had proven their loyalty, his name was brought up again. Whispers became conversation; surreptitious glances became open stares. Six little stranger spies, starting to connive, Blackthorn drew his blade on one, and then there were five. He'd made no secret of being a reluctant conscript. Perhaps that was part of it. How could you expect loyalty from a man who didn't want to fight? He pictured the recruiter. Alethi black hair speckled with red, bright green eyes, tall. Storm you, he thought. I should be working the paper vats, not sticking men with spears. Five little stranger spies, scheming through the war, One was saved but slain in a duel, and then there were four. He paused. Kaddar was up ahead, talking to a group of men in blue. A strange creature - a chicken, he'd been told, the first one he'd ever seen - perched on his wrist. What did it say of the lighteyes that the King's Wit was giving most of the orders? Beyond that, the strange man seemed to seek death. He'd called on Torwel to bring him to justice before. Well, let the fool have it. Four little stranger spies, with one absentee, His silence drew the Blackthorn's ire, and then there were three. He thought of the Spanreed, snapped and cast into the fire. Torwel could read glyphs - a prerequisite for the job - but conversing with them, as one would talk face to face, had been difficult. He understood the value of the women's script now, and had even begun to learn its letters. Not that it would do him any good now. Three no-longer-stranger spies, grand plans thrown askew, One could not maintain his lie, and then there were two. The notes from Wurum indicated the musician had been far more skilled with glyphs than he was, even grouping them phonetically into long words he'd had to whisper to himself to read. They'd exchanged only a few messages; enough to identify each other, and to realise they were trapped. Aonaran had been loyal to Aladar, though, and planned to cause as much trouble for the Kholin army as he could. He was dead now, of course. Two never-stranger spies, seeming now outdone, His message betrayed one to Tal, and then there was one. And so was Torwel. The only question was how. His allegiance to Roion was entirely in spheres. Perhaps he could have bargained his life for information, if he hadn't been the last spy left alive. He certainly wasn't going to cause chaos for Roion's benefit - from this point forward, his actions belonged to no-one but himself. He looked leewards, towards the command tent. One solitary spy, left all alone He had his spear, and knives at his belt and boot. They would expect him to act in darkness, or to catch one of them alone. Surprise could help him. And he wasn't intending to emerge alive. He turned into the tavern. The ale wasn't Saro's Five, but it was the best in camp. Why have a last meal, when it could be a last drink? And then there were none.
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    Who do I suspect? Well, l think Newan's suspicion list is reasonable; they're the players that have no substantial evidence either way on their allegiance. Jasnah - has been just active enough to avoid being executed. She's done this before, as a villager, meaning she could get away with hiding as a spy. Alv claims to have evidence that she's innocent, though. (Alv, if it was information you got from Wyrm that you weren't meant to have, why share its results?) Reihmer - has claimed IRL issues for being less active. Promotion of 'discussion points' might have been intended to broaden the scope of discussion. Having claimed spearman, he's now involved in the role distribution argument. Odysa - seems a lot quieter recently, though I might be wrong. I'm still not inclined to suspect her (yes Ren), though having claimed spearman she's now involved in the role distribution argument. Aonar - is saying a lot less than usual. Most of what he's said previously is interesting in that it deviates from the line of discussion occurring. Given Macen roleblocked Meta in cycle 1, he seems a possible candidate for cycle 2. Araris - is also quiet, and a lot of what he says contains misconceptions. I'm wondering if that might be a facade... I think my two biggest suspicions are Aonar and Araris. I'll vote the latter, since there's three votes on Aonar at the moment. That was my incredibly awkward attempt at my code from Luckat, received from Maill.
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    I question the wisdom of making a post while half asleep. Ah well. I don't want to place a vote, because I don't trust myself to make such a judgement at the moment :/ Ren, I explained why I was less active in this post, and the reasons haven't changed. If I understand correctly (I found the sequence difficult to follow, so I could be wrong), Kas thinks Jain's partner is trying to set up Odysa - reasonable, given the evidence. (I don't have time to analyse, but I don't recall ever noticing Odysa making punctuation errors. She uses conversational and "Internet colloquial" phrasing in places, but that's hardly the same thing.) It might then be someone who's cast suspicion on Odysa in the thread - Marand and Newan come to mind...? Not sure what's happening up north, but where I live, looks like it's going to be a wet summer. edit: so many formatting mistakes
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    Yes. If this scenario is true and they didn't change orders because they didn't see the swing, there's a decent chance they haven't caught up with the game yet. (I'm thinking Karlin, Jasnah, Araris...) I'm wondering why Macen would point this out. If he's a spy, doomed to die via shardblade, then he'd put a valid and potentially useful deduction in his doc, not in the thread. Did he know it was a false deduction, and was trying to cast suspicion on other guardsmen? It seems like Luckat would be too easily able to thwart him if it were false... I'm going to reserve judgement on Eoldren until we hear from Luckat.
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    Norlav Unless I've counted incorrectly, the lynch is between Odysa, Ace and Jost. I'm hesitant to focus on the lighteyes so hard, because of the risk of losing powerful roles. However, it's not likely to change at this stage in the cycle. My thoughts on Odysa haven't changed. Ace's reluctance to give his lighteye vote for last cycle is strange, when he stated his other targets. Surgeon is potentially a fakeable role, but risky due to not knowing where the spy kill will go. If he's not lying, though, we really don't want him dead. Jost hasn't said much this cycle. Last cycle he came down hard on Meta, backed by evidence (which, from what I've seen, isn't really his playstyle). It could have been genuine suspicion, or taking the opportunity to remove a threat. For now, I think we should leave Ace alive. Surgeon is too powerful a role to throw away. Mostly to that end - to prevent an unexpected stack of votes - I'll put my vote on Jost. Edit: Silly colour editor. A line break is not an excuse to switch colour.
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    That's bizarre :/ I'll try to keep this as close as possible to what I said before. I'm happy to place the first vote, but only if there's a general consensus to lynch you. I agree you're most likely the Wit, and therefore I can't make the vote of my own accord. This is the first game I know of where order of votes matters. What happens if you retract and then replace a vote on the same person? If it's in the same post? --- I found the slew of votes for Meta to be a little strange. Aonar's vote was placed early in the cycle, but was never retracted (up to ~36 hours after Meta responded). This is interesting, but since that vote was completely unrelated to the turn at the end of the cycle, I doubt it was deliberate. Joe and Kas had substantial evidence/argument to back up their votes, which suggests they had been considering it for some time, and it seems Joe jumped on the opportunity from Kas. Wilson wanted a lynch, and Maill said he'd give his suspicions in two days' time. Of these, I find Maill's vote the mote suspicious, though that could be due to his technical problems. I'd like to hear from Norlav, who saw (at least) the beginning of the Meta/Kas duel, but posted only to clarify the highstorm rules.
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    Given that there were no spy kills this cycle, I think it's important to get a lynch off. We need the information. I'm reluctant to place a vote, though, because I won't be able to change it before the rollover and, by the way it's shaping up, that means I'll miss a lot of the debate. I'll put my thoughts on those with votes on them here. Wilson: As previously stated, I really doubt she'd come forward as she did if she were a spy. Odysa: Instinct says she's trustworthy, but I can't back that with evidence. She's commented on the game a lot more, and done less RP. Ostensibly she's trying to play better; for ethical reasons, that makes me reluctant to vote for her based on playstyle. But the variation could be due to alignment just as easily. Meta: My observation is that, aside from the lighteye vote and his previous post, he's been playing reactively. There are many possible reasons for that, most involving avoiding attention. He could be a spy, or a powerful role, or neither. Newan: His response to Ren's vote was less than satisfactory, IMO, but it was in keeping with the rest of his posts. He might be aiming to stay just out of notice. Kas: He's usually posted observations that have been both reasonable and helpful, and I can see him trolling just for the sake of it. Honestly, I don't find him very suspicious.
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