TMC29ZX

On 11/21/2020 at 10:55 PM, Kingsdaughter613 said:

On 11/10/2020 at 7:37 AM, TMC29ZX said:

But why did Harmony suddenly show up and give us the info dump about the Shattering?

.... @Nameless This was pretty close.

Also @Experience said: “And when Hoid can’t punch Kelsier anymore,” is close considering that Hoid references the time he did. And currently can’t, due to them being on different planets.

Actually, you could consider the sheer number of times Mistborn, and Kell in particular, was brought up to be ‘getting it right.’

I admit I did a celebration dance when I realized the letter was from Harmony. He could have given us some more information to consider it a "dump" but I'm counting this as a win!

1 minute ago, IcaroRibeiro said:

I couldn't wait so I've changed my Amazon account to an Australian one. I'm reading the book now about 9 hours before the release, guess I won't do anything other than read after I finish working

 

This. is. Brilliant! Well played and hats off to you. You have both my upvote and respect.

I'm just interested in people's approach when they start reading or physically have the book in their hands if they have been reading the preview chapters. 

7 minutes ago, Subvisual Haze said:

Kaladin yelling "I was born perfect!  Only God can judge me!" and being granted the hidden 6th oath was pretty cool

Who would have thought the 6th Oath turned your spren into a real person?

But why did Harmony suddenly show up and give us the info dump about the Shattering?

17 hours ago, Subvisual Haze said:

My God, Urithiru is an EVA and the gemstone pillar in the basement is the entry plug.

Get me an Asuka and we can go kick some Odium butt

Unfortunately now I can't get this scene out of my head

Kaladin: Ok ma'am, we are ready to start the procedure, scalpel please?
Syl: Not till you do it.
Kaladin: Oh come on, not this again
Syl: I am a divine piece of a god, you want my help, you'll do it
Kaladin: Syl, I don't want to do this again, can you just become the scalpel, please?

Syl: Speak the words

Kaladin: Ugh, please can we not do this just to remove a splinter?

Syl: Speak the words!

Kaladin: Fine, Syl is the most beautiful spren in the world and I can't live my life without her, happy?

Syl: Now, stretch forth thy hand
Kaladin: Seriously?
Syl: Stretch forth thy hand!!!!!

Kaladin: Ok, ok, there, happy? (as Sylpel forms) Every. Storming. Time.

Even the Heralds also know these Radiants can do things that haven't been possible till now. 

"“Who knows?” Ash said. “It doesn’t work the same for you all as it did for us, when we had our swords. You’re limited, but sometimes you do things we couldn’t. At any rate, I never knew much about it.”
 

Of course the flip side of that statement is there is much more they can once they are no longer limited. 

3 minutes ago, Rainier said:

I can't help but laugh. Dalinar is worried about the Highprinces. Meanwhile I just want to see Jasnah soulcast an entire army to smoke at once. "As involved as seems appropraite," says the woman who thought it was appropriate to lure thugs into attacking her so she could soulcast them into smoke as a demonstration to her ward. Yeah, "appropriate involvement," from Jasnah. 

"Jasnah, did you just destroy the enemy position by yourself in full Shardplate?"
(shrugs) "Seemed appropriate"

Just now, Karger said:

This is obviously the most important take away from the chapter.  It will probably become one of the most hotly debated topics until we get a strait answer but.  Are Jasnah and Hoid a thing?

I feel totally unprepared for this if it's an actual ship.  I mean, which name of Hoid do we use? Wasnah? Joid? Dustnah? This is too much to process

Well, God-priest = Ishar confirmed like "hey guys, it's Tuesday"

On 10/18/2020 at 8:46 PM, Lemiltock said:

On the nothing new for Kaladin, Syl seemed aweful impressed when he split a highstorm with wind spren to protect the parsh. Also his "Fight with the wind" seems more than just windrunner fighting abilities.

 

I also disagree with the anyone could do what he did leaderahip wise. Hes a dark eyes with a shash brand and he not only survived the bridge runs he savied the others (more mindset than physical) I dont even think dalinar could have done that.

I agree with you on the leadership, I had said he was doing things others couldn't do with reforming the KR and turning bridge men into Bridge Four. As Dgreene196 said, even the Heavenly Ones are impressed by his Windrunners. As for the splitting the wind, I was under the impression that was a type of proto-plate but you're right, Syl did seem to be impressed by that.

 

9 hours ago, dgreene196 said:

I know the suspicion is that Cultivation may have a hand in setting the deck to get the humans a fighting chance, but I do wonder if Honor had a hand in this, as well.  The spren fear that, without Honor, the Nahel bond could be more powerful.  Maybe that's intentional.  Honor clearly had time to prepare for his death, even if his own "death rattles" seemed to contribute to the Recreance.  Perhaps his death was sacrificial, setting up a chance for Rosharans against Odium - hmm, that's going to need a better name and acronym...

Rosharans Alliance for Fighting Odium-  RAFO?

 

6 hours ago, Solant said:

I think the short version is too keep our main protagonists separate/ more powerful/ distinct/ more interesting from the hordes of average KR we will undoubtedly have by the end. I enjoy this line of thought, though

Depending on how Adolin's arc turns out, I could see him on this list as well

I also thought it could just be a plot device, which is understandable and totally fine. Like you said, with these being the main characters in this arc, they do have to stand out or they just blend in. And I agree, Adolin becoming a KR and re-awakening Maya would qualify I would think.  

From the Kickstarter Update:

"I’m hoping to get you the novella before the end of the month, and it looks almost certain that will happen at this point. Even with it being a tad longer than expected, we should have no trouble getting it edited, revised, and proofread before November. The print edition is a little more tricky. We’ve been told at this point by our printer that there’s really no chance we could get it back by December. COVID has interrupted printing schedules and paper delivery far too much."

While I agree Shallan swearing Oaths and having a blade at such a young age sure seems unique, I’m hesitant to add her to the list yet because we don’t know enough. That being said, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to hear Pattern say “you were the youngest person ever to swear the Oaths”. 
 

As for Kaladin, I do think he’s doing things no one else could do from a leadership perspective, but right now he has the same Windrunner abilities as everyone else at the 3rd Oath and none of them have shown anything that makes the Spren say “Well that’s new.”

As for Jasnah, we just don’t know enough about her story or abilities, and I don’t think Ivory is going to say too much.
 

We do know at least Lift and Dalinar have interacted with Nightwatcher/Cultivation. Cultivation ended up with Nighblood and now Szeth has him so that’s a point in her favor too. To me it’s very possible that Renarin somehow ended up with Glys cause of  Cultivation deal with Saj-anat but who knows.  That would leave Venli but maybe we would find out something in this book?
 

Again, I don’t have any theories, just the observation they are different than any previous Radiants.

Ok, I don't really have a theory, just an observation. I'm looking for theories.

Of the "primary" Radiants that we see in Oathbringer, at least 4 (5 if you count Venli) of them carry the designation of being unlike any other Radiants in the past. You have:

Dalinar- able to open Perpedicularities, recharge stormlight (Stormfather notes how he's different than a Bondsmith)
Renarin- bonded to corrupted spren, able to see the future (Ivory tells Jasnah)

Lift- halfway into cognitive realm, metabolizes stormlight from food (Wyndle)

Venli- Listener Radiant, has Fused Spren and Timbre, although pretty sure Rlain will join her soon, so maybe not that special but still unprecedented

Szeth- has Nightblood but also

I'm not even going to get into Hoid because I'm not sure he really counts but clearly no one else is like him, just ask Zahel.

I'm summarizing and I understand the current Radiants don't exactly know what other Radiants were capable of in the past, but it's been Spren (and Zahel) who have commented how different they are. It could be plot device or it could be a final throw from the Shards to tip the scales somehow (looking at you, Cultivation). We might find out that Shallan, Jasnah, even Kal are unprecedented in other ways. Then again, they might be already in some ways and I just missed it. 

I have no unified theory on this and am open to theories why were are suddenly seeing Radiants who are unlike previous Radiants according to the Spren. Will it be common that the new Radiants in the True Desolation will be unlike the previous Radiants or are these few just special?

If the Jasnah-ship were to happen, wouldn't he be King Brightlord Master Highmarshal Stormface?