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Shardcast: History of Roshar Part 1


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Continuing our series of episodes where we think "eh, we won't talk that much, we can fit it into one episode" is the History of Roshar. Yeah, okay, it's hilarious we could fit it into one episode, but we spent a lot more time on Rosharan prehistory than I expected! We get up through the Last Desolation this week, and we'll talk about after the Desolations and the Recreance next time.

We have Eric (Chaos), Evgeni (Argent), Grace (thegatorgirl), and Joshua (jofwu). 

(If you'd like to see my Desolation math spreadsheet, it's here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1prORC7cmaPfyzR3O6RBYT5NtZRDEsmu_rG10oRaSQOI/edit?usp=sharing)

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Do we know how long surgebinders live for? Some of your problems with how quickly the first desolation happens and how quickly (during Nohadon's life) the Radiants go from not existing to building Urithiru could be solved if Surgebinders have extended lifespans. Maybe all the Heralds were surgebinders (or whatever the equivalent on Ashyn would be?) before becoming Heralds? Maybe Nohadon lived for 200 years? We know so little at this point. 

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I think the Dawnsingers made the Dawncities pre-Honor and Cultivation using some sound/singing related magic we haven’t fully seen yet. I think it is an Adonalsium thing. Roshar is so different from any other planet and we know from the Frost letter that Adonalsium did a lot of work there.

Nothing about Honor & Cultivation makes me think they’d create singing related magic or creatures.

I think H&C went to Roshar because there was a vibrant humanoid population there. 

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Continuing our series of episodes where we think "eh, we won't talk that much, we can fit it into one episode"

You all are as bad as Brandon when it comes to "accidentally" producing extra content.

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I need to stop referencing things in my intro the Eric hasn't actually mentioned yet. This has happened multiple times now. 

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Singer

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Thoughts on ancient Singers:

My guess is that most of the non-sapient spren that are necessary to bond and create the various Singer forms were around before H and C arrived. They were just part of the ecology of Roshar and evolved alongside the Singers. I think that they had a culture and society already established and as H and C came to Roshar their culture shifted to include them as gods and higher, smart spren started to develop. So non-smart spren were there before, it was only the smart spren who developed because of Honor and Cultivation's investing in Roshar. The Singers and the intelligent spren probably interacted, even if the Nahel bond wasn't a thing yet, then the humans show up. 

I also really want there to be some awesome singing based magic. That is my jam, I need that to be a thing!

Edit: I looked at the pronunciation for "epoch" and both are correct. The second vowel can be either a schwa (which is a neutral "uh") or "ah" as in father. So thanks, college, making me learn IPA even if I'll never make a dime from it.

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Because of this podcast, I had a dream about Adonalsium the other night.  

I feel like there was a MAJOR reveal in the dream. 

But now I can’t remember it.  

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