teknopathetic he/him Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) In the translated notations from the image The Dagger, we get a curious statement. SHout out to Oltux72 for their help discussing this, (middle, below the dagger hilt) The ruby is housed in a metal other than raysium, silver maybe? I can confirm the metal is not raysium, but a silver- nickel alloy and does not affect the dagger's function. ------ Note: There is a real metal called Nickle Sllver, but it is not an alloy of Nickle + Silver Nickle and Silver do not alloy well or at all, and after some research and some discussion on another thread it was determined this is a very strange alloy to use (especially if it is decorative only), Additionally, if we consider what we know about pure silver and shades, one would think there is more going on here than meets the eye. We should be exceptionally suspicious of silver alloys and cognitive-shadow weapons based on what we know.... Honestly, I think this is a bold-faced lie on the part of Rabonial (or perhaps she had been lied to as well considering the item's power). As these two metals do not alloy naturally, there must be a reason for the usage. --- I have included the entire translation at the end of this post Note that the finer lines here are Navani's, while the darker, cruder ones are Raboniel's] (top left) Raboniel's soul harvesting dagger (top right) The white-gold metal vein down the middle conducts Investiture. Raboniel calls the metal raysium and says there is not enough in this dagger to collect her soul or what of a Herald. I am not sure I believe her. Navani is right not to believe. I have given her few reasons to trust me, after all, but in this thing I do not lie. Why give into my enemy's hands the means to destroy me? (middle, above the dagger hilt) I will proceed with my experiments. Our discovery of Warlight paired with my eventual understanding of this dagger might yield a way to stop this war. Though I think we disagree on what an acceptable end to the war actually looks like. (middle, below the dagger hilt) The ruby is housed in a metal other than raysium, silver maybe? I can confirm the metal is not raysium, but a silver- nickel alloy and does not affect the dagger's function. (bottom left) I suspect the vein of raysium continues through the dagger's hilt and somehow attaches to the ruby at its base. The raysium vein is removable, reversible, and conducts Investiture directly to the gemstone. (bottom right) Touching the dagger to half of the ruby does not pull out the half spren. Cracking one half however, allows the spren to escape. The dagger immediately pulls the spren along the raysium vein and into the gem at its base. Edited November 23, 2020 by teknopathetic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriodor Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, teknopathetic said: In the translated notations from the image The Dagger, we get a curious statement. SHout out to Oltux72 for their help discussing this, (middle, below the dagger hilt) The ruby is housed in a metal other than raysium, silver maybe? I can confirm the metal is not raysium, but a silver- nickel alloy and does not affect the dagger's function. ------ Note: There is a real metal called Nickle Sllver, but it is not an alloy of Nickle + Silver Nickle and Silver do not alloy well or at all, and after some research and some discussion on another thread it was determined this is a very strange alloy to use (especially if it is decorative only), Additionally, if we consider what we know about pure silver and shades, one would think there is more going on here than meets the eye. We should be exceptionally suspicious of silver alloys and cognitive-shadow weapons based on what we know.... Honestly, I think this is a bold-faced lie on the part of Rabonial (or perhaps she had been lied to as well considering the item's power). As these two metals do not alloy naturally, there must be a reason for the usage. --- I have included the entire translation at the end of this post Note that the finer lines here are Navani's, while the darker, cruder ones are Raboniel's] (top left) Raboniel's soul harvesting dagger (top right) The white-gold metal vein down the middle conducts Investiture. Raboniel calls the metal raysium and says there is not enough in this dagger to collect her soul or what of a Herald. I am not sure I believe her. Navani is right not to believe. I have given her few reasons to trust me, after all, but in this thing I do not lie. Why give into my enemy's hands the means to destroy me? (middle, above the dagger hilt) I will proceed with my experiments. Our discovery of Warlight paired with my eventual understanding of this dagger might yield a way to stop this war. Though I think we disagree on what an acceptable end to the war actually looks like. (middle, below the dagger hilt) The ruby is housed in a metal other than raysium, silver maybe? I can confirm the metal is not raysium, but a silver- nickel alloy and does not affect the dagger's function. (bottom left) I suspect the vein of raysium continues through the dagger's hilt and somehow attaches to the ruby at its base. The raysium vein is removable, reversible, and conducts Investiture directly to the gemstone. (bottom right) Touching the dagger to half of the ruby does not pull out the half spren. Cracking one half however, allows the spren to escape. The dagger immediately pulls the spren along the raysium vein and into the gem at its base. Maybe she meant nicrosil and silver? Would adding chromium and silicon to the mix make alloying nickel and silver any more doable? Or maybe it's just nicrosil and saying nickel and silver is easier than nickel, chromium, and silicon. That would still mean that Raboniel was lying or lied too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teknopathetic he/him Posted November 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, seriodor said: Maybe she meant nicrosil and silver? Would adding chromium and silicon to the mix make alloying nickel and silver any more doable? Or maybe it's just nicrosil and saying nickel and silver is easier than nickel, chromium, and silicon. That would still mean that Raboniel was lying or lied too. It reminds me of the fact humans were lying about the metals or painting them to trick people, so maybe Odium/Robinial had similar inclinations. Another possibility mentioned in the other thread is that it is SIlver + Nickel + something else in a small quantity, but that is not what she said so we cant really know. Edited November 23, 2020 by teknopathetic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriodor Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, teknopathetic said: It reminds me of the fact humans were lying about the metals or painting them to trick people, so maybe Odium/Robinial had similar inclinations. Another possibility mentioned in the other thread is that it is SIlver + Nickel + something else in a small quantity, but that is not what she said so we cant really know. I also just noticed that if you didn't know that the rosil part of nicrosil was chromium and silicon, you might make the assumption that it was nickel and silver. If Raboniel was told that it was made of an alloy called nicrosil, then she might have just mistakenly believed that was short for nickel-silver. Edited November 23, 2020 by seriodor a word 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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