Kered Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) This isn't really going to be a discussion thread more of a informative thread but feel free to discuss, though I believe most of the discussion is taking part in the Part Discussions. Was getting ready to start doing some edits on the new Shard pages so I created an info sheet with all the possible definitions of the new Intents as well as a few abstract interpretations. Here is what I used and what I will be adding to in order to reference: Invention Definitions: The action of inventing something, typically a process or device. Creative ability. something. Typically a process or device, that has been invented. Noun. Synonyms: Inventiveness, originations, creation, design, contraption, innovation, creativity, imagination, originality Mercy Definitions: Compassion or forgiveness shown toward someone whom it is within one's power to punish or harm. Used in expressions of surprise or fear. Noun. Synonyms: Leniency, clemency, compassion, grace, pity. Whimsy Definition: Playfully quaint or fanciful behavior or humor. A whim. A thing that is fanciful or odd. Noun. Synonyms: Flightiness, arbitrariness, capriciousness, irresponsibility. Valor Definition: great courage in the face of danger, especially in battle. Noun. Synonyms: Bravery, courage, fearlessness. Initial Thoughts Valor could likely be the cosmere's version of "The God of War". Valor and Honor would be a good combo shard. Makes me think that if Honor and Cultivation weren't a couple maybe Honor and Valor would have settled together. The most potential for an "evil" intent is Invention. The one likely to the most damage/cause the most cause is Whimsy. I wonder if Mercy was helping Odium or Ambition in the fight. From WoB's, could clearly be that Mercy helped Odium. Maybe Mercy saw what Odium was doing as a mercy then after helping actually splinter a shard, Mercy got scared of the scope and implications and bailed. I expect Invention to play a large role in Era 4. Valor, from the letter, can be sort of implied to have a decent relationship with Hoid. More so than the other shards at the very least. Whimsy and Odium combination is absolutely terrifying. Any combo has the potential to be dangerous but I think Odium, particulary the Passion aspect, takes the cake. Trell most likely seems to now be Autonomy. Though, it could be just as likely it's a shard we don't know. With these epigraphs we now have only 2 unknown shards. And only one relevant hint remains, the WoB about wisdom and a possible property an unknown shard has. The "surviving shard" also refers to this "survival" shard. Cultivation and Invention would be a cool combo. Invention and Endowment as well. Whimsy and Autonomy would also would be crazy. Mercy and Autonomy would also be cool, might temper the Autonomy intent into something interesting. Edited November 19, 2020 by Kered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Oltux72 Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Kered said: The most potential for an "evil" intent is Invention. The one likely to the most damage/cause the most cause is Whimsy. Invention would have loved Wernher von Braun. Not evil, amoral in the truest sense of the word. Quote I wonder if Mercy was helping Odium or Ambition in the fight. From WoB's, could clearly be that Mercy helped Odium. Maybe Mercy saw what Odium was doing as a mercy then after helping actually splinter a shard, Mercy got scared of the scope and implications and bailed. Mercy is a passion. I am afraid I need to point out that Mercy is a natural enemy of Honor and Cultivation. Honor implies fairness and carrying out threats. I need to point out an important qualifier in Venli's second oath. Cultivation is nice if you grow and procreate. However, if you do not, well - she is not Mercy. Cultivation has a Darwinian aspect to her. Jasnah's attitude and a closer association of her order to Cultivation are not accidental. Edited November 19, 2020 by Oltux72 typo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsdaughter613 Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, Kered said: This isn't really going to be a discussion thread more of a informative thread but feel free to discuss, though I believe most of the discussion is taking part in the Part Discussions. Was getting ready to start doing some edits on the new Shard pages so I created an info sheet with all the possible definitions of the new Intents as well as a few abstract interpretations. Here is what I used and what I will be adding to in order to reference: Invention Definitions: The action of inventing something, typically a process or device. Creative ability. something. Typically a process or device, that has been invented. Noun. Synonyms: Inventiveness, originations, creation, design, contraption, innovation, creativity, imagination, originality Mercy Definitions: Compassion or forgiveness shown toward someone whom it is within one's power to punish or harm. Used in expressions of surprise or fear. Noun. Synonyms: Leniency, clemency, compassion, grace, pity. Whimsy Definition: Playfully quaint or fanciful behavior or humor. A whim. A thing that is fanciful or odd. Noun. Synonyms: Flightiness, arbitrariness, capriciousness, irresponsibility. Valor Definition: great courage in the face of danger, especially in battle. Noun. Synonyms: Bravery, courage, fearlessness. Initial Thoughts Valor could likely be the cosmere's version of "The God of War". Valor and Honor would be a good convo shard. Makes me think that if Honor and Cultivation weren't a couple maybe Honor and Valor would have settled together. The most potential for an "evil" intent is Invention. The one likely to the most damage/cause the most cause is Whimsy. I wonder if Mercy was helping Odium or Ambition in the fight. From WoB's, could clearly be that Mercy helped Odium. Maybe Mercy saw what Odium was doing as a mercy then after helping actually splinter a shard, Mercy got scared of the scope and implications and bailed. I expect Invention to play a large role in Era 4. Valor, from the letter, can be sort of implied to have a decent relationship with Hoid. More so than the other shards at the very least. Whimsy and Odium combination would be an absolute is absolutely terrifying. Any combo has the potential to be dangerous but I think Odium, particulary the Passion aspect, takes the cake. Trell most likely seems to now be Autonomy. Though, it could be just as likely it's a shard we don't know. With these epigraphs we now have only 2 unknown shards. And only one relevant hint remains, the WoB about wisdom and a possible property an unknown shard has. The "surviving shard" also refers to this "survival" shard. Cultivation and Invention would be a cool combo. Invention and Endowment as well. Whimsy and Autonomy would also would be crazy. Mercy and Autonomy would also be cool, might temper the Autonomy intent into something interesting. Long Shot Theories Curiosity. Wisdom. Independence. Joy. Madness. Patience. Compromise. Fear. Wrath/Retribution. Destiny/Fate. Chaos. Whimsy may be Curiosity and probably covers Madness. Independence and Autonomy are synonyms. Odium seems to include Wrath. Ruin is entropy, which covers Chaos. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kered Posted November 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 Removed the the long shot theories portion because I don't feel like having the Intent debate. This topic is mostly to get a bunch of relevant info in about the shards reveled in RoW. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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