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I was thinking about the effects of Ba-Ado-Mishram's imprisonment on the parshmen and realized how in some ways they are similar to the Heralds.

1. They were both Connected to a "God"

The Heralds to Honor, the parsh to Odium/BAM

2. That Connection was severed.

Honor died, BAM imprisoned.

3. That severing had effects on the Connected entities.

The Heralds seemed to invert their personalities, the parsh lost their identity.

4. That Connection can be restored.

For parsh, the Everstorm does the job.  Talk and Ash were clearly Connected to Dalinar when he opens Honor's Perpendicularity.

5. Restoring the Connection seems to reverse issues.

Listeners can hear Rhythms again, Taln seems sane.

Conclusion: Both the Heralds' insanity and the parsh slave form are a result of severed Spiritual connection.

Thoughts?

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9 minutes ago, Brgst13 said:

I was thinking about the effects of Ba-Ado-Mishram's imprisonment on the parshmen and realized how in some ways they are similar to the Heralds.

1. They were both Connected to a "God"

The Heralds to Honor, the parsh to Odium/BAM

2. That Connection was severed.

Honor died, BAM imprisoned.

3. That severing had effects on the Connected entities.

The Heralds seemed to invert their personalities, the parsh lost their identity.

4. That Connection can be restored.

For parsh, the Everstorm does the job.  Talk and Ash were clearly Connected to Dalinar when he opens Honor's Perpendicularity.

5. Restoring the Connection seems to reverse issues.

Listeners can hear Rhythms again, Taln seems sane.

Conclusion: Both the Heralds' insanity and the parsh slave form are a result of severed Spiritual connection.

Thoughts?

Don't forget Deadeye Spren and their Connection to their Radiants.

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1 hour ago, Brgst13 said:

3. That severing had effects on the Connected entities.

The Heralds seemed to invert their personalities, the parsh lost their identity.

4. That Connection can be restored.

For parsh, the Everstorm does the job.  Talk and Ash were clearly Connected to Dalinar when he opens Honor's Perpendicularity.

5. Restoring the Connection seems to reverse issues.

Listeners can hear Rhythms again, Taln seems sane.

Conclusion: Both the Heralds' insanity and the parsh slave form are a result of severed Spiritual connection.

Thoughts?

As of Oathbringer, unless there's some WoB I'm unaware of, it's conjecture that the inverted personalities is related to Honor dying.  It could be as a result of enduring thousands of years of torture and then breaking their oath, after all. 

Further, if they have been severed from the Spiritual Realm, then we'd expect to see the more common elements that exist elsewhere--eyes burned out, limbs grey and devoid of color.  There are definite parallels going on, however, and they seem to be deliberate.  I wonder if perhaps instead of being severed from the Spiritual, what we are seeing is instead beings that have been severed from the Cognitive Realm.

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Also worth noting that Honor died long after the Heralds tried to run away from the Oathpact, which I suspect was itself driven by some of the Herald's developing personality inversion. 

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