Getting rid of Nightwatcher boons/banes

[danex]

If you got a boon and a bane from the nightwatcher, (let’s say your boon was good luck for a year, and your bane was seeing upside-down for the rest of your life) and then you burned Aluminum, would that get rid of the boon/bane? Aluminum sorta ‘cleanses’ all investiture from the person’s soul/spiritweb right? Would it depend on the type of boon/bane?

What about compounding gold, gold healing tries to restore you to your spiritual ideal right? Would that remove them? 

Could either one of these remove a bane but keep a boon? If you perceived the good luck as apart of you, but still saw the upside-down vision as some outside handicap affecting you, and then compounded gold, what would happen? 

I’ve checked the arcanum and couldn’t find anything that mentioned aluminum and the Nightwatcher together. 

Edited November 23, 2020 by Danex

[Honorless]

Aluminium, I suspect, wouldn't work. It cleanses Investiture from the body, but the Nightwatcher's modifications aren't just stick-ons, they're alterations made to your Spiritweb and aluminium won't rewrite your Spiritweb.

As for gold, it could work, theoretically, in some cases at least, with Cosmere healing being about perception. But my gut says it might not be enough by its own. Maybe with Compounding... 

Therapeutic Hemalurgy might be best bet

Although, there's just a wee little problem:

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Questioner

Using Hemalurgy, could you steal the boon from the Old Magic?

Brandon Sanderson

Oh, from the Nightwatcher? This is theoretically possible.

Questioner

Would that take the [curse] with it as well?

Brandon Sanderson

*Hesitantly* Yes. Though it's also theoretically possible to split them apart, that would be a lot harder. Getting the boon, if you knew what you were doing, would not be that difficult.

Now, what Cultivation would do to you when she found out that had happened is another thing entirely. Because those are willful grants of Investiture.

Questioner

Similar to Endowment's with the Returned?

Brandon Sanderson

Yeah, things like that. When you get a Shard involved and the Shard has..  power to... Same thing like...it's on a much grander scale what's happening with the spren bond, right?

Questioner

When Hemalurgy does spread, most Shards will not be happy about this, right?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, that is correct.

Idaho Falls signing (July 21, 2018)

 

Edited November 1, 2020 by Honorless

[Quantus]

It depends on the true realmic nature of the Boons/Curses, which we dont really know yet.  I doubt Aluminum would work because I think it's a permanent/instant change like Healing or Soulcasting, not something continuous like Forgery.  I doubt Spiritual Healing would work because I think it's a direct Spiritweb alteration more along the lines of Lerasium or the Nahel Bond that are not affected, rather a "Damage" to be corrected back to the previous Ideal.  If it were the latter, I think Lift's Boon could be in danger once she starts viewing it as Wrong, though I suppose it would at least partially depend on her own perception (and the external Healer, if ReGrowth is used).   

[Hoid the Former Drifter]

5 hours ago, Honorless said:

As for gold, it could work, theoretically, with Cosmere healing being about perception,

stormlight healing is perception too, that's why kaladin kept the scars.

[Hoid the Former Drifter]

3 hours ago, Quantus said:

Lift's Boon

i thought we don't know what that is

[Quantus]

5 minutes ago, Hoid the Drifter said:

i thought we don't know what that is

We dont know what it was, but we do know what she thought it was supposed to be: She thought she would no longer Age.  She was wrong, and was very unhappy about it.  

[I Am A Fish]

 

1 hour ago, Hoid the Drifter said:

i thought we don't know what that is

there is a RoW preview chapter that answers that question.

But it's a preview chapter so...

[Aspiring Writer]

2 hours ago, I Am A Fish said:

 

there is a RoW preview chapter that answers that question.

But it's a preview chapter so...

Thanks a lot, now I know there is an answer in the next book.