Rainier Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/14/2020 at 4:19 AM, Master Silver said: The spren Radiant bond might be able to help strengthen resolve and keep Radiant heralds from warping. On 10/19/2020 at 1:57 PM, Lemiltock said: I can see the spren helpping keep imortal people sane. The herlads insanity, however, is also a mixture of living too long which is what i think the spren wilk help with and Odiums torture, which I doubt the spren could significantly help with. Yeah, I was confused by this connection. What we were told by Vasher is that the Intent of the Investiture affects the soul. All Investiture has Intent, or has since the Shattering, at least. That's the same whether it's the Heralds or Returned or Mistborn or Elantrian. So adding an additional Intent in the form of a spren bond doesn't counteract the others, it just adds to them. What I definitely think is happening is that Hoid is trying to get a piece of every Intent, so that way they all cancel out and he can remain Himself, while still wielding the power. Adding more Honor on top of Honor would be reinforce that particular cause of insanity, not reduce it. 3
WeLoveMoash Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 I just want to add that we've seen the full complement of a Skybreakers Oaths 1-5. 1. Life before death, journey before.... you know this one 2. The Ideal of Justice (swearing to follow the law) 3. The Ideal of Dedication (swearing to follow a code or an individual) 4. The Ideal of Crusade (A quest) 5. The Ideal of Law, in which the Skybreaker becomes the embodiment of law. It's described by Nale I believe as the point where a Skybreaker has to stop depending on codes and guidance and become able to trust to themselves to determine right and wrong. My issue with the ideal of 6+ ideals is that assuming that the general progression is similar for most other orders, it doesn't leave a ton of room to figure out where further oaths could go, given that this seems like a pretty complete journey. The only potential ideal I could really see beyond that would be one last level, something akin to transcending the limits of just your order and adopting the wisdom of other orders as well (and even THAT assumes there isnt mutual contradiction)
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